2019 Recruiting Thread

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

It's understandable since under Dan typically our biggest recruiting day was Big Dawg Camp. But the other thing people need to understand is that we have a lot more commitments at this point than we typically did under Dan also.

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There is also a handful of kids that would already be committed if Dan were here that are wait and see guys now.. our class would look more like UM right now with the old staff
And a handful we probably wouldn’t have committed right now .. Jones being one of them

Everyone enjoy the fall camp, hope for no injuries , and enjoy the hell out of this season we are about to have.
This staff knows how to recruit , trust me. And the results we will see on the field this season damn sure won’t hurt either
This will end up being one of the best classes we have had..

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

There is also a handful of kids that would already be committed if Dan were here that are wait and see guys now.. our class would look more like UM right now with the old staff
And a handful we probably wouldn’t have committed right now .. Jones being one of them

Everyone enjoy the fall camp, hope for no injuries , and enjoy the hell out of this season we are about to have.
This staff knows how to recruit , trust me. And the results we will see on the field this season damn sure won’t hurt either
This will end up being one of the best classes we have had..

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Do U think Jackson flips to OM?

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Do U think Jackson flips to OM?

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Wouldn’t shock me either way. Just like it wouldn’t shock me if Black, Ealy, Turnage, Young and Handy all decommited at some point
I was more shocked he commited to us this early in the first place.
Out of Watkins, Scurry, Mingo, and Jackson if we land 2 of these it will be a win. More than is gravy. And I think we will land 2 for sure

Ari, What do you think of Rayburn?

Rayburn is a guy you offer a preferred walk-on spot to. Just like Wright. Unless you lose out on everybody else.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Rayburn is a guy you offer a preferred walk-on spot to. Just like Wright. Unless you lose out on everybody else.

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Why do you think that?

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Why do you think that?

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Because neither one has the measurables of a typical SEC football player.

You recruit for the most part by the book because the book exist for a reason. It's usually right. When you start signing a bunch of players that don't have the measurables of a typical SEC football player, you end up with a team of players that don't have the measurables of a typical SEC football player

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Because neither one has the measurables of a typical SEC football player.

You recruit for the most part by the book because the book exist for a reason. It's usually right. When you start signing a bunch of players that don't have the measurables of a typical SEC football player, you end up with a team of players that don't have the measurables of a typical SEC football player

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So a kid that is 6’1” plus, runs a 4.5 lazer time 40, runs great routes and had 10 TDs with very limited touches and plays in a modified T formation offense just doesn’t have SEC measureables.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

So a kid that is 6?1? plus, runs a 4.5 lazer time 40, runs great routes and had 10 TDs with very limited touches and plays in a modified T formation offense just doesn?t have SEC measureables.

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He will need to add 15-20 LBs of muscle while retaining his speed and quickness in order to handle contact...I also think we try to go the PWO route with him unless we can?t land two of our top four

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

So a kid that is 6’1” plus, runs a 4.5 lazer time 40, runs great routes and had 10 TDs with very limited touches and plays in a modified T formation offense just doesn’t have SEC measureables.

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He sounds like the Hunter Renfrow kid at Clemson. I think you let those types walk-on unless you have a spot late in the process.

Remember, we can only take about 4-5 more commitments

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Remember, we can only take about 4-5 more commitments

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We remember differently. I believe we will sign 26 or 27. None of that is to say that we should definitely sign Rayburn. Although, observers yesterday said he ran a legit 4.5 and had great hands.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Why do you think that?

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Because he’s not as good as the guys ahead of him and we only have so many scholarships.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Because he’s not as good as the guys ahead of him and we only have so many scholarships.

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He's one of the better hs receivers in the state, but physically isn't anywhere near ready for the SEC. Our coaches will probably evaluate him closely in his physical development.

Longtime reader, 1st time posting, Everyone needs to relax with the recruiting slow down. This coaching group is going after and landing far better recruits than we have routinely gone after in the past decade. Granted this is a very rare and strong in state class, you still can’t discount the coaching staff for their out of state pursuits. Emery would be amazing, but you are kidding yourselves if you think Mullen would have ever been in the coversation. The fact that Emery is even considering us, is gigantic.
I work in South La, and I am surrounded by true DIE HARD LSU fans, it is not lost on them the effect of MSU recruiting. I have even gotten them to acknowledge State has an added disadvantage of having a fellow SEC school in state. LSU has the market cornered from birth in LA, but that is beginning to be questioned with JoMoe and company.... Hail State

Charles Cross commits to FSU

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Originally Posted by SilentSteel16

Longtime reader, 1st time posting, Everyone needs to relax with the recruiting slow down. This coaching group is going after and landing far better recruits than we have routinely gone after in the past decade. Granted this is a very rare and strong in state class, you still can’t discount the coaching staff for their out of state pursuits. Emery would be amazing, but you are kidding yourselves if you think Mullen would have ever been in the coversation. The fact that Emery is even considering us, is gigantic.
I work in South La, and I am surrounded by true DIE HARD LSU fans, it is not lost on them the effect of MSU recruiting. I have even gotten them to acknowledge State has an added disadvantage of having a fellow SEC school in state. LSU has the market cornered from birth in LA, but that is beginning to be questioned with JoMoe and company.... Hail State

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MSU has so many disadvantages that we've had to overcome that most/all SEC schools have absolutely no clue.

- Two SEC schools in-state
- small in-state population
- Although growing exponentially, built in the middle of nowhere, which has made making it "somewhere" a challenge.
- Not only two SEC schools in the same, small population state, but both SEC schools are in the north portion of the state. South MS has little connection.
- A random G5 school (USM) that traditionally stole a useful portion of the state population. This is deteriorating.
- LSU, Alabama within 1 hour of state lines.
- All this leads to a state that is split & never pulling in the same direction. Very little sidewalk fan base which hurts in areas where most players come from.
- Having to play @ LSU for almost 30 years in a row.
- Home games in Jackson, which stunted Starkville's growth
- Having to play Alabama every year while our rival did not.

It's just a mess. The good news is that MSU's profile as a successful SEC school is dragging it out of these disadvantages. We are on the cusp of becoming a national brand that appeals to people outside of the state, which is the solution. For so long MSU has been plagued by disadvantages, but as good fortune would have it, the Golden Triangle is growing, Starkville is becoming legit, we have beautiful & growing on campus stadium, & most importantly, we emerged from poor past leadership & circumstances with 1 of 14 seats of the most powerful college sport entity in the country & we are surrounded on all side by one of the most fruitful recruiting areas in the nation. While we still have excuses, they are growing fewer by the day

The outside perception of Starkville and MSU still won't change until 10-20 years after the fact.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

The outside perception of Starkville and MSU still won't change until 10-20 years after the fact.

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You could be right as there are many who have a vested interest in maintaining that perception.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

You could be right as there are many who have a vested interest in maintaining that perception.

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Well as long as LSU keeps Coach O ?which may not be too long,? and OM has frat boy we stand a great chance of prevailing regionally if not nationally. Saban will eventually retire and Mullen would be hard pressed to get anywhere against Smart and UGA. I believe with us churning out players such as Dak, Wright,BMck, Sweat, Simmons and Slay, we will continue to get the next group such as Shrader and Jarrian Jones. The legacy of State will continue to climb along with the traditions of ?Don?t stop Believing.?

Not to mention a couple of National titles in Basketball and Baseball won?t hurt. Cohen has this University going in the right direction which has been entirely lacking in the past.

These recruits especially in football are completely buying into these coaches and themselves. It is our job as fans to continue to root them on, which has been proven to be working by being regarded as one of the loudest stadiums in the NCAA.

Going to be a fun year for many sports starting on the gridiron !!

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Charles Cross commits to FSU

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Ari or IYOK, will this last or will he stay in state?