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They look to be trending up some.
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849Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
They look to be trending up some.
Similar to last few days. Slightly down. Will be interesting to see if they continue to climb or level off. They had to go back up at least some with such a huge case rise
Vaccine by Pfizer showing promise in clinical trials. Saying early results showing it is producing antibodies equal to greater antibodies than the actual virus.
If it pans out, phizer will make a boat load of moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
An article I read said that two treatment options are showing promise. Chemical 11-A and monoclonal antibodies. 11A is an antiviral that attaches to the protease and essentially halts replication. Animal trials have proven to be encouraging, and human trials start soon. The monoclonal antibodies are more of a preventative treatment that stops the virus before it starts. 2,000 people will take part in these trials in the coming weeks. The good thing about these types of treatments are that the trial process goes by much quicker than the vaccine trials. Yeah, a vaccine that would nip this shit in the bud would be nice, but if we can figure out a way effectively treat this thing, the wait for a vaccine becomes less urgent.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
Agree. But that won't be the motto. And either way a ton to go and that's assuming immunity which Is probably not that likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Have you checked death by suicide? Depression numbers up 40% ...Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Sweden's case numbers look to be going down considerably. Is anyone following it closely enough to know if testing is remaining consistent? Have they changed policies? It would be a pretty good sign for us if they are starting to hit herd immunity.
https://i.postimg.cc/Nf1NbxGh/77-D8-...333-E40873.jpg
Seems to be getting better there. However, they still have had 12x as many deaths per capita as Norway and the impact on the economy is about the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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At this point, I'm more interested in why the cases are dropping. If they're hitting a herd immunity wall, this summer surge could end up not being such a bad thing for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Yeah, I'm also interested in what's going on. I found this:Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Some more tidbits in there: https://www.businessinsider.com/swed...-worked-2020-7Quote:
Experts pointed to a host of reasons for the shifting numbers. They credited myriad factors, including the arrival of summer, with fewer people in offices creating more distance, and Sweden quietly taking steps to protect people in care homes. Johan Carlson, the director-general of Sweden's public health agency, credited the "effect of us keeping up the social distancing" for the decline.
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"The short answer is, that there is no short answer," Pekka Nuorti, an epidemiologist in Finland's Tampere University, told Business Insider, pointing to changes in testing, changes in behaviors, and more time spent outside.
It looks like their testing is about the same as it's been.
https://i.imgur.com/77kjpWB.png
I've had same thoughts. Could that explain New York also. They are having 1/10 the cases they had in April.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That is why you make no decisions affecting sept and October right now.
Just found out my cousin has it. Not hospitalized at this time. Said she always wears a mask but for whatever reason went to a wedding and funeral without it and that did it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcrUXLFU...ng&name=medium
First weekly rise in deaths since April
Donny boy bent the knee to the crazies and put on the mask publicly.
To quote Mr. Graham: "Better late than never, but never late is better."
Deaths always are a lagging indicator. If you didn't see that coming you are stupid. It will get worse. Want it to eventually go down without a lockdown, wear a 17ing mask.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Oh, it's only a severe flu season....a disease we have a vaccination for and several drugs that specifically treat it. Got any evidence to counteract those FACTS? IQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
will spare you the humiliation...,.you don't. I take it you haven't been personally affected yet. Hopefully you never are.
I didn't tweet that. He presented his evidence. Join in on his thread to contradict his evidence. I just found it interesting. Are you saying his chart is incorrect? It could be for all I knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
https://www.ft.com/__origami/service...ext&width=1260Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
None of the recent years compare on this graph
Also, not sure if I linked this before, but it's a good comparison:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-history.html
Can't get the article without creating account... How far back does the NYT compare death rates? The guy above (no blue checkmark, granted) uses many of the same countries but shows some higher spikes within the past 20 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
One thing that could be leading to the discrepancy is it's unclear what month he stops at in 2020.
https://i.postimg.cc/4x5w5c49/78549-...17-CFF50-A.jpg
https://twitter.com/rebelacole/statu...361616896?s=21
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This seems to be a pretty big deal
Why? There are some with 0% too. And everywhere in between. Should we also assume that 9% of those are actually positive and add them to the positive cases?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_pa...rts_latest.pdf
You don't think it's suspicious that a lab tests 444 people in a day and every Single test was returned positive? Am I reading the chart wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
0% is much more likely than 100%, right? How many 0s vs 100s?Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
I wouldn't doubt there are more positive tests in Florida because they probably don't have the man power to process all the tests everyday.
I think there are more cases everywhere than being reported. On this issue though, I think reporting total tests is important. Positive % is a huge indicator of where you are with the virus... cooking the number either way should be unacceptableQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg2003
I was messing around on Wikipedia trying to find the case mortality rate for Covid, and I found a page where it breaks it down by age group and state. It said that the mortality rate for 60-69 years olds in Mississippi is 16%. I looked at that because my parents are in their 60s. That's terrible if true. It was Wikipedia, so take it for what it's worth. I didn't look into their sources.
I think there could be a lot of explanations, especially with backlogged test results where they just dump positives on one day. There are a shitload with 0%, 1%, 2%, 10%, 20% ... 80%, 90%, 98%, etc. There is a full distribution from 0% to 100%. It doesn't look suspicious to me.
Some days, Mississippi reports 100% test positives for the state. I really think you'd have to look at one of those particular lab's reports for the whole week to have an understanding.
6.6% using the latest official state data, which is better, but still an awful prognosis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg2003
That's terrible. Did you find that on the MSDH website?Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
18-29 age group now is far the group with the highest number of cases by almost 2,000. Second highest group is 30-39 followed by 40-49.
Yep, from this image:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg2003
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static...-age-07-10.png
Speaking of Florida, 15300 new cases there today. NY's largest daily count was 11661.
I wonder if the cdc x 10 factor applies across all age groups. If so, the cdc x 10 factor reduces that to .66%.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
68% percent of people at a New York Clinic tested positive for coronavirus antibodies,
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/68...es/ar-BB16BiuN
NY's 7-day case avg peak was April 10th, and their 7-day death avg peak was April 12th. If you're a death is a lagging stat guy, then NY missed a boat load of cases 2-4 weeks before April 12th. If you think NY was competent testing, death stats are very encouraging for Florida. Florida not issuing death sentences on their LTC centers is probably helping their death comparison to NY though.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker