Our offense wasn't good this year though. What exactly are we saving?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
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Our offense wasn't good this year though. What exactly are we saving?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
I really wish we would give Gus a look and let Arnette stay DC.
Or here’s an idea. WhT about Ol Ball Coach. Let him be the CEO and let Spurrier JR be coach in waiting. Let Jr get the ropes of it all and take over in a couple seasonss
Our offense wasn't good cause of the QB. The scheme is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
A lot of people around here fail to grasp this. They want to bring in a new HC and start from square one all over again. Then I'm sure the same people will be bitching about the new coach b/c he's not turning it around fast enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by memsu06
Our offense wasn't good this year, but it's got a lot of pieces in place and it's a lot better than it will be than if we ask this personnel plus a few transfers of the type we'd be likely to get to run a non-air raid based offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That said, if we have a coaching candidate that can bring in a QB, it may not be that bad of a transition. I just don't know what happens if you ask this group of OL to switch to a more traditional scheme.
No one is hoping we go to a triple option or a Relf offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
The issue is that CML was a 1 of 1 in a lot of ways. We were the only school in the country that ran this offense. Now, does that mean we scrap the entire air raid and start over? No, but we can't just rule out candidates because they may have a 50/50 balance. Now, can we hire a coach that requires the QB to run it 8-10 times a game? Sure, we could, but we would have to hit the portal because Parsons won't be ready for that and that isn't our best choice.
All of this is moot if we are just going to hire Arnett, let him hire an OC that is very air raid friendly and go from there, which is very likely, especially if he wins the bowl game.
Imagine if we had lost the Egg Bowl. No one would want the Air Raid. Hire the best coach Keenum.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It's not about run v. pass balance, it's about personnel. If our OL can block for the scheme and they are bringing a QB that can run it (not sure Will can do anything too far away from the Leach version or air raid), then it doesn't matter if that scheme ends up at 60/40 run pass. But if you want to switch to a scheme that our current OL are not suited to run, that's just unnecessarily painful for the program unless you are getting they type of sure thing head coach that we are just unlikely to be in the running for, unless you consider Malzahn that type of coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Anybody not wanting a modified air raid guy at this point is an idiot. And that's the point b/c we have guys that want to go get a ground and pound offensive minded head coach. If we do that we'll be extremely lucky to win 6 games next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I'd be surprised if we don't hire Arnett.
And arnett wouldn't be a candidate at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
what is a ground and pound these days other than the service academies and Bert? I will say this, I would love a coach who could run a QB sneak on 4th and inches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Hmmmmmm, lots of rumors. Things might not be as they seem. End of the week should tell us a lot.
Qb sneaks seem to be a lost art for all college coaches. It's basically automatic in the nfl... not sure why it isn't used in collegeQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I can't believe he's a serious candidate. We are a Top 30 job. The SEC is big business. You are hiring the front man for your multi-million dollar business. You better do a national search. We could miss on 10 targets and Arnett would still take the job. Naming him coach without a real search would be monumentally dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
What are you hearing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
It's just b/c there are coaches out there who never go under center. But I don't know what TCU was thinking not running the sneak with Duggan. They are lucky it didn't cost them a playoff spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Well he was screaming arnett all day yesterday, so this seems like he's moving away from that prediction.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I really hope this is the case. I love ZA, but man, I don't know about HC. If this unfortunate event had happened when diaz, Collins, grantham, or shoop were here, I woulda been against all them too even though they were great
This pretty much..Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachT14
Exactly. And with the transfer portal utilized efficiently the composition of a roster can change overnight.
Agree, I want ZA to stay right where he is. Love his defense.... and it really pissed of Kiffin.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He's a successful P5 coordinator. He doesn't have a track record with the length you would typically want, but he's coached under a great defensive mind and now under a great head coach and has shown success as a DC. He's already shown he can be successful with the type of recruits we get against the competition we play. He's checks all the boxes for the type of experience you want, just not the length. I agree you have to do a national search, but I disagree that he's not a top 10 candidate. Now would he be if he were not already here? Likely not because of his short track record, but he is here and that does play into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Speaking in terms of AD or HC? If an AD is in place that will help get the ball rolling on making a decision on a coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
There is a bit of rumbling about it. I can't put a percentage on it, yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg
He's making a lot of money at OK State, but I think big 12 is falling out of prestige losing OU and Texas. That's why you might be able to pull Aranda or Gundy. Aranda more so than Gundy.
Dana runs the ball more for sure. Probably more modern. Is he up on the portal though and recruiting. Does he want to leave texas
I like arnett but I would go after Aranda before him. Proven he can be a head coach at power 5 wouldn't take much to get him to SEC. If we are going the Defensive guy route.
Aranda ain't comingQuote:
Originally Posted by trojandawg
Good. I doubt he's asked to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
How do we know that for sure? Armada is from the Leach tree, has HC experience and dammit, if we could get the GOAT we sure as hell could get one of his disciples. MSU isn’t a bottom feeder Nationally. We sell our selves short all of the time and it’s maddening.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
UnderstandableQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I would kick the tires on Kittley, Fritz, Klieman, Riley, for sure. If Kingsbury gets fired and we can keep Arnett as DC, that would at least be interesting. This could all end this week with Arnett or it could be into Jan. Let's see Keenum earn his pay the next couple weeks, lol.
So many different versions of things and different boosters saying different things too. I can't even get a response beyond the eyeball emoji from a friend that's normally on this kind of stuff. I guess we all figure it out the next 3-5 days. Signing day is something to really watch now.
Klieman would be my first call. He only makes 3.5 so he would at least listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
You don't know that. We got leach to come here. With the right money and SEC he would come.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Baylor has $$$$ we can?t come close to.Quote:
Originally Posted by trojandawg
He makes $6M. I'm not sure his record so far justifies throwing a lot more than that at him. Plus, with the expanded playoffs and the SEC being considerably tougher than the Big 12, I'm not sure if the SEC is as big of a draw or not. On the one hand, the SEC can plausibly get 4 teams into an expanded playoff. On the other hand, is it going to be easier to be top 4 in the SEC than top 1 or 2 in a depleted Big 12?Quote:
Originally Posted by trojandawg
Plus, let's say conference alignment continues to happen and a school like Baylor gets left out. With how quickly coaches get cycled through, successful coaches are still going to get opportunities in whatever super conference(s) emerge.
I don't understand all this "We should bring in X as head coach and keep Arnett as DC" talk. That's not a decision we, as MSU, will get to make. We're not going to go hold a national search and tell our targets "we want you to take our HC position, but you have to keep our current DC". Now, a new coach may want to keep him, but that's totally on the coach. Most of them would come with their own DC.
The only way MSU makes the decision to keep Arnett is if we attempt to keep the entire staff together by promoting from within (Arnett included).
Don?t be surprised if we have a coach before we have a AD. Might have been Leach recommendation.
Yep....he's a good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Without knowing much about him other than his wikipedia, that seems like a pretty reasonable candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I think he and Shane Beamer are people that should at least get a significant raise out of this situation. Both should get calls and should be credible enough candidates that their school should be willing to up their pay by $500k to $1M (probably at least $1M for Beamer)
Kinda what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless