Woody and DJ

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

You clearly don't work in a hospital because I get verbally abused all the time. Add that to your professions list.

And they are soft.

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That part stood out to me too. Lol. Healthcare, retail, really any service industry. What a bubble to live in.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Leach and his old school mentality had better calm down or he'll lose the fan base next. He's already losing the locker room. This isn't Washington state. He's becoming the lunatic Texas Tech coach.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

You're definitely ignorant to a culture if you think 2 days caused it to go sideways. Your sources suck and your speculation is terrible. Are you a politician?

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28, I wish I could let them see the group chat

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Kirby is not old school.

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Oh ok. Cool.

https://youtu.be/wTScfrr7k3A

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Lmao. So a CURRENT leader of the football team word sucks? And yours, who played 80 years ago for a completely different staff, is Gold? ��

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I played for the best football coach at State. He was the most in touch coach a player could ask for. I'm sure you knew players then too huh?

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Originally Posted by PendingTransaction

28, I wish I could let them see the group chat

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They still wouldn't believe you.

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Originally Posted by RisperDawg

That part stood out to me too. Lol. Healthcare, retail, really any service industry. What a bubble to live in.

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I'm not sure anyone gets verbally abused as much as people in the restaurant industry. And not by customers. By kitchen staff and managers.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Oh ok. Cool.

https://youtu.be/wTScfrr7k3A

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Coaching hard doesn't make you old school. Wow, I'm done wasting my time with you.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I respect 28 and his info because I know he played at State and is pretty close to the program. There are so many of us on here that know players and coaches or people in the athletic dept and there is always gonna be some conflicting info. It's just like any organization there's gonna be people happy to be there and there's gonna be some that are disgruntled. The kids I know personally on the team are happy and really like Leach(why they are staying when they could go to the draft or transfer). Heck my youngest son knows half the team and plays video games online with them. I do know that nil and the portal is a huge issue. It's becoming equivalent to a kid saying "I don't like you and I'm taking my ball and going home and not playing with you anymore". Cfb is forever changed and it's a mess. Can't wait until this infects the high school level. Heck travel sports are already littered with deals for kids to come play with this or that organization. My youngest who is a baseball player was a dang good basketball player as a youth and at one of his games a guy came up to me and offered some "incentives" if he would come play for his team. I declined. Just my 2 cents which doesn't mean much. Sorry for the long post guys.

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I can respect what you're saying.

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Originally Posted by PendingTransaction

28, I wish I could let them see the group chat

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A lot of players are pissed at DJ. You can spin it all you want to but this is first hand info.

So "IF" & that's a BIG if being how dishonest some have been on here today, sounds like DJ did become a problem & tried to influence other players & we are a better team without him?

Thank you Leach, now clean out the rest of them.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Coaching hard doesn't make you old school. Wow, I'm done wasting my time with you.

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Wtf dude? So please explain your old school shit? The man literally cussed a player out & was ten times worse than what Leach is "accused" of doing 🤡

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Wtf dude? So please explain your old school shit? The man literally cussed a player out & was ten times worse than what Leach is "accused" of doing ��

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No, you're acting as if this ONE incident is the reason for the fallout. Stay in your lane football dynamics appears to be too much for you.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

A lot of players are pissed at DJ. You can spin it all you want to but this is first hand info.

So "IF" & that's a BIG if being how dishonest some have been on here today, sounds like DJ did become a problem & tried to influence other players & we are a better team without him?

Thank you Leach, now clean out the rest of them.

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And he'll keep winning 6 games doing it his way. If all those players felt that way they'd come out and say it.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

No, you're acting as if this ONE incident is the reason for the fallout. Stay in your lane football dynamics appears to be too much for you.

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I can tell you for a fact the locker room was very good one week ago. I can't speak of anything other than that. Maybe he's been crying a little longer than two days, but I can tell you for a 100% fact that the locker room as a whole is great. A couple mentally soft dudes does not change that fact. Period.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

And he'll keep winning 6 games doing it his way. If all those players felt that way they'd come out and say it.

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If by 6 you mean at least 8 this year playing with one of the toughest schedules in the country & a liability at QB, then we good.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

I can tell you for a fact the locker room was very good one week ago. I can't speak of anything other than that. Maybe he's been crying a little longer than two days, but I can tell you for a 100% fact that the locker room as a whole is great. A couple mentally soft dudes does not change that fact. Period.

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So how does someone become a cancer in a week? STFU

I can tell you one thing 28, that if you work in healthcare that directly involves patient care then you would understand there is no comparison between it and football. Working in a local metro ED that fights daily with psych patients and gets dog cussed at by other patients, I would take a tongue lashing from Leach any day....

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

If by 6 you mean at least 8 this year playing with one of the toughest schedules in the country & a liability at QB, then we good.

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We didn't play one of the toughest schedules. We didn't beat any top 25 ranked teams on the final poll. We beat about 3 or 4 teams with a winning record. What's hard about that?

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

So how does someone become a cancer in a week? STFU

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Horrible adults in his ear?

Or are you saying he's been a "soft" cancer for weeks & the locker room is so strong that it was just overcoming it?

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

A lot of players are pissed at DJ. You can spin it all you want to but this is first hand info.

So "IF" & that's a BIG if being how dishonest some have been on here today, sounds like DJ did become a problem & tried to influence other players & we are a better team without him?

Thank you Leach, now clean out the rest of them.

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I'm not spending jack, Jack. You may know someone who's telling you that they are pissed at DJ. But three players and their group chat tells a different story. I guarantee my "second hand " is closer than your first hand.

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Originally Posted by Activated Alpha

I can tell you one thing 28, that if you work in healthcare that directly involves patient care then you would understand there is no comparison between it and football. Working in a local metro ED that fights daily with psych patients and gets dog cussed at by other patients, I would take a tongue lashing from Leach any day....

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Patients cuss you daily that are mentally challenged. If you get offended by someone that you KNOW has mental issues..hmm. Coaches also cuss players daily for hours straight. You can leave the floor and the patient if/when it gets hard. Unruly patients are also sedated in those instances. There's no sedating coaches.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Horrible adults in his ear?

Or are you saying he's been a "soft" cancer for weeks & the locker room is so strong that it was just overcoming it?

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Lol,I think you're trying to move the goalpost now that your caught up in how stupid it sounds. No one becomes a team cancer in 7 days.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

We didn't not play one of the toughest schedules. We didn't beat any top 25 ranked teams on the final poll. We beat about 3 or 4 teams with a winning record. What's hard about that?

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Kinda like every other team in America outside of the top 5-10?

For example, Ohio St & Alabama only beat one team ranked in the final top 25 poll.

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Originally Posted by PendingTransaction

I'm not spending jack, Jack. You may know someone who's telling you that they are pissed at DJ. But three players and their group chat tells a different story. I guarantee my "second hand " is closer than your first hand.

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I guarantee it isn't LMAO... & I also guarantee the source is a helluva lot more respected in the football world than yours.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Patients cuss you daily that are mentally challenged. If you get offended by someone that you KNOW has mental issues..hmm. Coaches also cuss players daily for hours straight. You can leave the floor and the patient if/when it gets hard. Unruly patients are also sedated in those instances. There's no sedating coaches.

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I'm glad you posted this. It proves you will speak with authority about things you know nothing about. Don't know why anyone would engage further with your opinions from here.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Lol,I think you're trying to move the goalpost now that your caught up in how stupid it sounds. No one becomes a team cancer in 7 days.

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Ummm no. I was simply responding to your post.

And you can't be this naive. Geez. Things can happen in an instance. Like when someone gets in your ear about how good you are when you're really just average & wouldn't even start for another SEC West team.

What I'm telling you is the locker room has been amazing so if he or anyone else have been a crybaby for more than 7 days it has had zero affect in the locker room which speaks volumes to how strong it really is. This isn't an opinion.

I've only had two inside sources as far the MSU football team goes, in my lifetime. One of them was a very close relative of Dak Prescott & the other is a leader inside that locker room as I type.

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Originally Posted by RisperDawg

I'm glad you posted this. It proves you will speak with authority about things you know nothing about. Don't know why anyone would engage further with your opinions from here.

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I can't believe he even typed that, much less decided to go on and press reply 😭🤡🤣

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Leach and his old school mentality had better calm down or he'll lose the fan base next. He's already losing the locker room. This isn't Washington state. He's becoming the lunatic Texas Tech coach.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

I guarantee it isn't LMAO... & I also guarantee the source is a helluva lot more respected in the football world than yours.

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Man I thought we were talking about MSU players sentiments. Now you talking about someone in the football world being respected. I've went farther than I should have already. Less end this.

@bulldawg28 can you or someone explain to us what Leach is saying/doing to alienate or create a poor locker room dynamic?

What is he doing that?s old school versus what a Kelly, Saban, Smart, Mullen, Meyer don?t/haven?t done?

I know I?ve never heard some dogged out like I heard Mullen dog a lineman. Screaming insults over the megaphone. I thought it was over the top and ridiculous to be honest. But I didn?t see the reasoning.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

I can't believe he even typed that, much less decided to go on and press reply ������

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You're funny. Ignorant, but funny.

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Originally Posted by PendingTransaction

Man I thought we were talking about MSU players sentiments. Now you talking about someone in the football world being respected. I've went farther than I should have already. Less end this.

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Ummm him being one of the most popular players in the MSU locker room & highly respected is literally what makes him so well respected in the football world. I can't believe I'm having to respond to this or that it even had to be explained. My lord.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

You're funny. Ignorant, but funny.

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Thanks brother. Helluva compliment coming from ole 28 😁

sound like 28 be all about some sensitive coaching like from JoMO.

Yall just spit it out and say what yall are talking about with a group of players that are being upset and group chatting each other like middle schoolers....

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Originally Posted by Activated Alpha

Yall just spit it out and say what yall are talking about with a group of players that are being upset and group chatting each other like middle schoolers....

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If it's even true. If so why are they in the chat with the players or being shown a private conversation? Do we have outside influence of "former" players trying to split the team bc they hate Leach for whatever reason? Seems suspect to me.

If true, we have more cancers to get rid of & they still have no influence in the locker room 🤣

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Originally Posted by Pancho

sound like 28 be all about some sensitive coaching like from JoMO.

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Lol, Jomo .

He go easy on the players and let em do as they wish. lots of fisticuffs etc

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Lol, Jomo .

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Thanks for bringing some truth to this thread man. I support all what you're saying. People are valuing our win loss way more than they should this year. They can't see the glaring issues there right before our eyes. The same thing happened early on with jomo. We had a team capable of much more than it accomplished,

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Thanks for bringing some truth to this thread man. I support all what you're saying. People are valuing our win loss way more than they should this year. They can't see the glaring issues there right before our eyes. The same thing happened early on with jomo. We had a team capable of much more than it accomplished,

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I don't know. I kind of trust Leach more than I do Jomo just based on coaching experience and overall success. Jomo didn't know how to handle a team of kids who wanted to be pampered....

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

If it's even true. If so why are they in the chat with the players or being shown a private conversation? Do we have outside influence of "former" players trying to split the team bc they hate Leach for whatever reason? Seems suspect to me.

If true, we have more cancers to get rid of & they still have no influence in the locker room ��

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It sounds like your leader had no influence in the locker room.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Thanks for bringing some truth to this thread man. I support all what you're saying. People are valuing our win loss way more than they should this year. They can't see the glaring issues there right before our eyes. The same thing happened early on with jomo. We had a team capable of much more than it accomplished,

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Idk I think we got all out of what we could accomplish with the QB talent on display this year. Kentucky I'll give you, but beyond that... LSU, coaching can't fix drop drop drop drop drop from everybody. Georgia is just unfair. Bama we just didn't score. But there was fight and cohesion, and we won the Egg. Skull drug A&M and Arky. Still beat Auburn even when we let it get weird.

Just we're severely limited without an arm capable of throwing it 15+ yards downfield.