2019 Recruiting Thread

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

2019 is a rebuild of sorts, but we have some Key pieces coming back for 2019 -
QB - Key as Jr.
RB - Kylin & Nick Gibson
WR - Only lose Dear and Jackson
OL - 2 returning starters (Eiland & Reese), plus Williams, Story, Parker, Suggs as a base (definitely thin, but good)
TE - everyone of importance back

DL - Mullins, Spencer, Kobe, Fletcher Adams, Autry, and if we are lucky Rivers (very good but not elite)
LB - Leo (hopefully), Errol, and Willie as a base
CB - Guidry and Dantzler
S - Landrews, ????

That's not a bad starting point 18 months out, and doesn't factor in any of RSF from 2017, the 2018 FR, or the 2019 FR. We needs lots of young guys to get appropriate playing time this year to be ready for '19.

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WR - Dear isn't a Sr

OL - 3 returning starters (Eiland Reese & Williams)

TE - Johnson graduates

DL - Mullins transferred before last season. Return Rivers, Spencer, Jones, Adams, Autry, & Jackson. RS guys like Lovett, Crumedy, & Robinson. Add potentially the best DL class we've ever signed in the 2019 class.

LB - No Sr this year

CB - Guidry is a Safety not a CB. Dantzler & Williams the lead guys

Nickel/Safety - Cole, Landrews, Guidry, Murphy, & Morgan-Walker all return

These next couple weeks are going to be a fun time.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

These next couple weeks are going to be a fun time.

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Like.... how fun?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Like.... how fun?

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I can't speak for others fun level but I know I'm going to enjoy it.

RB, DB, DL commit fun. SBW is going to be something else.

Things are starting to get really exciting.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Like.... how fun?

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Like, everybody gets free coffee fun?

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

2019 is a rebuild of sorts, but we have some Key pieces coming back for 2019 -
QB - Key as Jr.
RB - Kylin & Nick Gibson
WR - Only lose Dear and Jackson
OL - 2 returning starters (Eiland & Reese), plus Williams, Story, Parker, Suggs as a base (definitely thin, but good)
TE - everyone of importance back

DL - Mullins, Spencer, Kobe, Fletcher Adams, Autry, and if we are lucky Rivers (very good but not elite)
LB - Leo (hopefully), Errol, and Willie as a base
CB - Guidry and Dantzler
S - Landrews, ????

That's not a bad starting point 18 months out, and doesn't factor in any of RSF from 2017, the 2018 FR, or the 2019 FR. We needs lots of young guys to get appropriate playing time this year to be ready for '19.

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Chauncey Rivers is the best DL we have outside of Simmons. And thats from a current DL and former DL

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Chauncey Rivers is the best DL we have outside of Simmons. And thats from a current DL and former DL

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Chauncey originally signed with UGA then ended up in MS Juco. anybody remember what his offer list looked like out of Juco? out of H.S. he had tons of blue blood offers.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

RB, DB, DL commit fun. SBW is going to be something else.

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After last year's class I'm ready for some OL commit fun.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Chauncey Rivers is the best DL we have outside of Simmons. And thats from a current DL and former DL

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And to tell you how deep we are, Chauncey is running with the 2's right now.

Just my every now and then check-in on crootin....

Things are sounding good. How are we looking on OL recruiting? Can anybody run down our current OL commits and who we expect/hope to land on the OL? How about the corner position....any potential future lock down corners we are either after or have committed? I really want to see us bring in some studs at CB, because I feel like Mullen & club did a terrible job taking advantage of Banks’s Thorpe Award. We didn’t really capitalize on him & Slay in the recruiting game at all.

Thanks in advance

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Just my every now and then check-in on crootin....

Things are sounding good. How are we looking on OL recruiting? Can anybody run down our current OL commits and who we expect/hope to land on the OL? How about the corner position....any potential future lock down corners we are either after or have committed? I really want to see us bring in some studs at CB, because I feel like Mullen & club did a terrible job taking advantage of Banks?s Thorpe Award. We didn?t really capitalize on him & Slay in the recruiting game at all.

Thanks in advance

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We are keeping Montravious Richardson for now even though personally I'm not a big fan of his. Anyone that redshirts in JUCO gives me pause.

That said- I think we get Charles Cross from Laurel who is really good and we have made some big moves with Brandon Cunningham a four star OL from St. Martin on the Gulf Coast. Cross should be at least a high three star if not four star if evaluated properly but you know how that goes.

The biggest difference is we have offered a lot more offensive linemen in the process and we haven't just given up on a guy like Cunningham just because he is committed to Miami and was allegedly an Ole Miss fan. Hevesy didn't even offer Cunningham because of some bullshit about his arms or something like that despite being a four star guy and Miami taking his commitment.

We have a commitment from DJ James who is a CB from the Mobile area and I like him a lot despite the fact that he is a three star guy and we may get a commitment from a CB in the NOLA area named Greg Brooks who I haven't seen yet.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

2019 is a rebuild of sorts, but we have some Key pieces coming back for 2019 -
QB - Key as Jr.
RB - Kylin & Nick Gibson
WR - Only lose Dear and Jackson
OL - 2 returning starters (Eiland & Reese), plus Williams, Story, Parker, Suggs as a base (definitely thin, but good)
TE - everyone of importance back

DL - Mullins, Spencer, Kobe, Fletcher Adams, Autry, and if we are lucky Rivers (very good but not elite)
LB - Leo (hopefully), Errol, and Willie as a base
CB - Guidry and Dantzler
S - Landrews, ????

That's not a bad starting point 18 months out, and doesn't factor in any of RSF from 2017, the 2018 FR, or the 2019 FR. We needs lots of young guys to get appropriate playing time this year to be ready for '19.

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I don't know if I would call 2019 a rebuild year or not. It's pretty rare for us to return as much as we are in 2018- the most returning starters in my fan lifetime with obvious upgrades at WR.

But we have:

QB- Key- four star QB who has some starting experience and I think Moorhead will use him a lot like Penn State used Tommy Stephens the back-up at Penn State last year. It will be his first year as a starter, but I think he will have a lot of playing experience.
RB- Kylin- I think he is a special player for us and busts out this year.
WR- Guidry, Todd, Heath, Couch as the outside guys and they will all be upper classmen except for Heath who I think will be a solid starter for us at worst and has a chance to be a special player also. Whop I think has a chance to be special as well.
Slot- Whop, Deddrick Thomas, and Dear all come back. I'm interested to see how we use Dear as I consider him more of an ATH like a Percy Harvin than a true slot WR. Thomas is a veteran and Whop and Key go way back. Austin Williams will be a good player for us also.
TE- Farrod will be a senior. If I am MSU I might consider bulking up Williams and using him as a TE/WR/H-Back to get him on the field more.
OL- We need to find a center. I think we need to move Reese to guard at some point as well. If it were me I would go LT- Eiland, LG- Reese, C- Story who has played some but has had injuries, RG- Williams, RT- Champion. That's a line with two juniors and three seniors on it. I think Tyre Phillips and maybe even Dolla Bill could start as well. I noticed that we moved a walk-on Matt Stanic to center recently and he is a big dude. Maybe he becomes the next Ben Beckwith except at center.

DL- Kind of depends on if Rivers comes back and Simmons as well although I don't expect Simmons to return for his senior year. Spencer, Kobe, and Adams have all played and will be upperclassmen. Autry will have playing experience by this time next year as well. We obviously won't have the depth that we do now but I like Aaron Odom, Fabien Lovett, Jaden Crumedy, James Jackson, and Devon Robinson.
LB- Leo, Erroll, and Willie Gay is a very good group of linebackers and all three will be upperclassmen. Washington is a solid role player and we'll see what Kilby-Lane brings to the table. I like Jett Johnson as a player too and I think he will help us with depth next year as a redshirt freshman.
CB- Love Dantzler and he will be a junior. The other spot is a question mark- Marcus Murphy? JUCO CB? Brian Cole? I'd have to guess that Tyler Williams is the favorite at the moment.
S- This group actually concerns me more than the DL or CB at the moment which is early. My guess at the moment is Brian Cole and Marcus Murphy. I do like Landon Guidry a lot but I'm not sure he starts in 2019. If we can flip Brandon Turnage I think he would have a very good chance of starting.

K- Christmann
P- Schexnader
KO- ???
KR/PR- Mixon and Thomas

On paper this looks like a good team but we'll see how next goes and see what intangibles they have to deal with.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

And to tell you how deep we are, Chauncey is running with the 2's right now.

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if he's running with the 2's, then the coaches don't believe he's # 2 then, right?

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Originally Posted by Bully13

if he's running with the 2's, then the coaches don't believe he's # 2 then, right?

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I think he just catching up. I would be shocked if he was not starting come sept.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

I think he just catching up. I would be shocked if he was not starting come sept.

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so is he a JR this year? did he see any action last year which was his first year here?

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Originally Posted by Bully13

so is he a JR this year? did he see any action last year which was his first year here?

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Academic redshirt.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

I think he just catching up. I would be shocked if he was not starting come sept.

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I expect Gerri & Sweat to be starting at DE. Chauncey will play a ton.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I expect Gerri & Sweat to be starting at DE. Chauncey will play a ton.

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damn. getting wooly. sounds like we've got enough solid depth to keep fresh legs in for 4 quarters.

Found this blast from the past USA Today sports nugget. How Dan Muffins went hard after Guidry, Heath and Dolla Bill. strike 3 bitch. I really want to curb stomp the gators this year.

http://sports.usatoday.com/2017/11/2...best-recruits/

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I expect Gerri & Sweat to be starting at DE. Chauncey will play a ton.

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So rivers is inside? For some reason, I thought he was an end

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So rivers is inside? For some reason, I thought he was an end

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Rivers is an end. I think he means that if he doesn’t start he will be the next guy on the field.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyDawg

Rivers is an end. I think he means that if he doesn’t start he will be the next guy on the field.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I don't know if I would call 2019 a rebuild year or not. It's pretty rare for us to return as much as we are in 2018- the most returning starters in my fan lifetime with obvious upgrades at WR.

But we have:

QB- Key- four star QB who has some starting experience and I think Moorhead will use him a lot like Penn State used Tommy Stephens the back-up at Penn State last year. It will be his first year as a starter, but I think he will have a lot of playing experience.
RB- Kylin- I think he is a special player for us and busts out this year.
WR- Guidry, Todd, Heath, Couch as the outside guys and they will all be upper classmen except for Heath who I think will be a solid starter for us at worst and has a chance to be a special player also. Whop I think has a chance to be special as well.
Slot- Whop, Deddrick Thomas, and Dear all come back. I'm interested to see how we use Dear as I consider him more of an ATH like a Percy Harvin than a true slot WR. Thomas is a veteran and Whop and Key go way back. Austin Williams will be a good player for us also.
TE- Farrod will be a senior. If I am MSU I might consider bulking up Williams and using him as a TE/WR/H-Back to get him on the field more.
OL- We need to find a center. I think we need to move Reese to guard at some point as well. If it were me I would go LT- Eiland, LG- Reese, C- Story who has played some but has had injuries, RG- Williams, RT- Champion. That's a line with two juniors and three seniors on it. I think Tyre Phillips and maybe even Dolla Bill could start as well. I noticed that we moved a walk-on Matt Stanic to center recently and he is a big dude. Maybe he becomes the next Ben Beckwith except at center.

DL- Kind of depends on if Rivers comes back and Simmons as well although I don't expect Simmons to return for his senior year. Spencer, Kobe, and Adams have all played and will be upperclassmen. Autry will have playing experience by this time next year as well. We obviously won't have the depth that we do now but I like Aaron Odom, Fabien Lovett, Jaden Crumedy, James Jackson, and Devon Robinson.
LB- Leo, Erroll, and Willie Gay is a very good group of linebackers and all three will be upperclassmen. Washington is a solid role player and we'll see what Kilby-Lane brings to the table. I like Jett Johnson as a player too and I think he will help us with depth next year as a redshirt freshman.
CB- Love Dantzler and he will be a junior. The other spot is a question mark- Marcus Murphy? JUCO CB? Brian Cole? I'd have to guess that Tyler Williams is the favorite at the moment.
S- This group actually concerns me more than the DL or CB at the moment which is early. My guess at the moment is Brian Cole and Marcus Murphy. I do like Landon Guidry a lot but I'm not sure he starts in 2019. If we can flip Brandon Turnage I think he would have a very good chance of starting.

K- Christmann
P- Schexnader
KO- ???
KR/PR- Mixon and Thomas

On paper this looks like a good team but we'll see how next goes and see what intangibles they have to deal with.

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Austin Williams is not going to get big enough to play TE or H-back. Thats the biggest reason he redshirted is bc he is skinny.

He has had a standout spring so far and wouldnt surprise me if he has a nice year. Been one of the most consistent WRs so far

Black just committed to OM.

What going on here?

I thought he was about back in our boat

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaOD1whXUAAfW6s.jpg

Guess that massive grove bowl crowd swayed him.

When you have tens of people chanting your name all bets are off.

It's April.. And they just had their spring game. He saw how much they need him.

Let's not freak out yet about any recruit...

Just another twist of the 2019 MSU roller coaster ride. Like we've been saying it won't be for the faint of heart. Going to be a lot of ups & downs twists & turns. This is just the latest.

When black was coming here, OM folks said no way black would get eligible. When black trended OM, state people said the same. When both sides say the same thing, it is most likely true. Gotta figure black is good for recruiting rankings, but not gonna help either team for at least 3 more years.

I've said it 100 times.. I'm from forest originally, I know his parents, graduated with them, and know his "handlers", as well as some of his teachers and I am telling you now he will be very lucky to graduate with a diploma that's not "special"... he will in no capacity come close to qualifying regardless of who he's committed too

Are you really a preacher? You continuously ride this kid, say he may get a “special” degree, and you make fun of our players. If you or you intel know wtf they were talking about you’d know you just can’t up and decide to not get a regular diploma by your senior year. You’re making fun of a kid by saying he be “special”. You’re a creep

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ruckus

Are you really a preacher? You continuously ride this kid, say he may get a “special” degree, and you make fun of our players. If you or you intel know wtf they were talking about you’d know you just can’t up and decide to not get a regular diploma by your senior year. You’re making fun of a kid by saying he be “special”. You’re a creep

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that post is out of line. YOU are the creep sir.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ruckus

Are you really a preacher? You continuously ride this kid, say he may get a “special” degree, and you make fun of our players. If you or you intel know wtf they were talking about you’d know you just can’t up and decide to not get a regular diploma by your senior year. You’re making fun of a kid by saying he be “special”. You’re a creep

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Uncle Ruckus is really funny but this post isnt

This wasn’t supposed to be funny. I want to know how someone who claims to be a preacher posts the stuff he does. Every time someone mentions Black he has to ride him down and say he won’t even graduate. Now he says he is “special”.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ruckus

Now he says he is “special”.

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He may have not meant it that way, but I agree that the perception of riding the kid down because he committed to OM (just like they do when a player commits to us; e.g., Leo) is pretty damn weak, and to be honest, feels like straight propaganda. But hey, it's 'cruitin' season.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

He may have not meant it that way, but I agree that the perception of riding the kid down because he committed to OM (just like they do when a player commits to us; e.g., Leo) is pretty damn weak, and to be honest, feels like straight propaganda. But hey, it's 'cruitin' season.

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To be fair to preacher, he said black would not qualify when black was committed to us. Preacher has been adamant

Yanci has posted multiple times that Black wont be able to get his diploma this coming year. Black commits to them today, and Yanci has posted that Black has been taking quote - side classes and will be on course to graduate on time. Its hilarious.

Oh, he meant it that way. He says had disparaging comments about Black for months. Now he says he may get a special ed certificate. This guy had no idea what he’s talking about and he’s running a kid through the mud in hopes of building his internet cred. And he’s supposed to be a preacher. Preachers I know wouldn’t talk down about a kids private academic issues for hundreds of people to see so it will make them seem like they are in the know