7 wins next year do look like a stretch at this point
7 wins next year do look like a stretch at this point
I do not understand the obsession with fans and the WR coach hire being announced right now. I’m lukewarm on Lebby and I am not crazy about him keeping everything locked up like Lemonis did but I mean damn take a Xanax. It’s a WR coach and Lebby is responsible for most of that anyway. It’s going to happen. He’s not watching Netflix and smoking dope on his couch. A hire is coming and it will produce WR because that is what this offense does. I’m just hoping we get some dogs on defense and on the OL. That’s what I’m worried about and I’m willing to give him the portal period to show us he can do something there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I doubt Arnett is just going to run it back with guys he doesn’t know and have not produced and I doubt Lebby will force him to do so. That’s not his style of coaching. He does not meddle with the defense. It may work or it may not but I guarantee you things are going on behind the scenes. I don’t like Corey Bell but the strong rumor is Kelley Jones is coming back and a lot of that is said to be because of Bell and if you get half of your position group locked down by a future first rounder for a year by bringing someone back then do it. I can coach Kelley Jones by slapping him on the ass and saying good job. I think we will have 2-3 new defensive hires when the portal opens.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Keeping a bad coach for a player to stay is a terrible idea and never works. That’s actual why we are in the situation that we are currently in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
It is a bad reason to keep a coordinator. A position coach’s job is almost exclusively recruiting outside of a couple of spots and if you have half the field locked up it can work for a year. I don’t want him here long term but I would be ok with him staying for this year to keep Jones. Now Hutzler is a different situation all together. You can’t have a guy with that much responsibility on staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Explain to me why he is a bad coach? What techniques are being coached that make him bad? People say this shit without knowing a damn thing about what they are talking about. What is he teaching from a hip rotation and set up in their stance thats bad? What hand drills does he not do in practice that he should do to make him a better coach?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yea I don’t think it takes a rocket surgeon to coach corners at any level. If he can recruit that is the biggest part of the game and if a 1st round corner is coming back for him then you keep him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
CB coach is the easiest job on the staff. Either you have dudes or you dont. Safeties coach is way more important because they have so many more responsibilities and reads. WR coach is probably the 2nd easiest job. U do hand and blocking drills. Thats about it. Those 2 positions are so much more about acquiring talent than coachingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Yep, and it looks like we have Isaac coming back at safety (if you want to call him a safety) and probably Manning get another year. I think we will be ok there. We need to load up on the DL. Whitson is a big returner and we need 3 more big time guys up front. We supposedly have 30 million dollars to spend on this team. Can we get enough dudes with that money to make us competitive? Last year we could not give away money to difference makers. I hope we can this year. This staff will be in prove it mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The crazy thing to me about Dan and MSU fans is Dan was given the time to develop and establish his program. What did he do in year 1? Go 5-7. That sounds familiar doesn't it? We have too many fans holding 2024 and Toledo against Lebby. Every situation is different.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Bringing Dan back would be a mistake long term for MSU. Sure, he can win with KT. I think Lebby can too by the way. As we have talked about we need to build our NIL and resources. We don't need a nostalgia grab with a guy who isn't the best recruiter, will have a harder schedule than he had his first go around, and will leave as soon as he has any kind of success or will try to.
So, that being said that's why I fully expect MSU to bring him back.
Bingo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
If you look at Arnett historically, we really doesn't have very many guys that are "his guys." He inherited Leach's defensive staff when we first hired him. And when he was at Utah, their defensive staff was one of Dan's friends- Paul Guenther and mostly guys that coached under Odom that Dan retained. Now that he is back you could say that Matt Brock is one of his guys but my point is outside of David Turner who we know is likely retiring that there may not be very many changes. Of course, I could see Barnes leaving but if we're replacing him with Brett Dewhurst I would honestly be kind of disappointed. But I would not be surprised at all if Bell is coming back. And honestly Barnes for that matter too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Dang! Muschamp is going to Texas as defensive coordinator. Sark has fired Pete Kwiatkowski and Duane Akina.
Man... that's gonna set Hadad off LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Is Muschamp an upgrade over Pete K? I don?t think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
15 years ago? AbsolutelyQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Today? Not sure.
Man, I just do not see Muschamp fielding a better defense than what they already had. Manning being hot and cold was worse than the defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
15 years ago yeah, but a lot has changed since then. Nobody sits still you’re either evolving or dead in the game. He will have talent to work with for sure, maybe time with Kirby has rubbed off like you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
They had a good defense this year and fired the DC. Makes sense **
Boom's not old yet. Maybe his time with Kirby has him recharged and ready. Changed his scheme and philosophy a little. We shall see. I got recharged this year in a new job and had alot of success. Of course- better players helps. I'm curious to see how it turns outQuote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
How do you know he is watching Andy Griffith?Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
captain obvious watches andy griffith. lebby do not
Changes are going to be named after the bowl game
Most have known this all along. some prefer to stay ruffled due to lack of insider info
Haven’t heard an exact names but I feel like it is names that have been discussed here. Since the portal opens on the same day as the bowl game, it will start leaking that day and into the 3rd
Justin Stepp is rumored to be a name to watch for the WR coach and Ty Warren for the DL coach job.
Stepp is interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Like the Patriots Ty Warren? Used to love watching him play
He’s the DL coach at RiceQuote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Stepp would be a great hire.
No thanks on Warren unless it's an analyst or off the field position. He simply hasn't done enough.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_WarrenQuote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
He served an apprenticeship with the Saints this season. That isn't something that they just let anyone do. He could be very good as a DL coach.
What happened to McPhee?
Mississippi State has hired WR assistant coach Desmond Lindsay. He was a WR coach at UTEP, Southern Miss and Memphis. I do not understand how you hire an assistant WR coach when you do not have a WR coach but here we are.
We probably have the coach hired but the coach probably wants to wait until after the bowls probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Also seems like that Lindsay was brought in to recruitQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yeah. We're obviously changing our staff for the better. We're adding recruiters like Lindsey and Kevie Thompson and try to add guys that are good at development and X's and O's. Similar model to what Coach O suggested years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
I think we might see a lot of assistant position coaches going forward. There isn't a limit on the number of on field coaches you can have. They just limit how many can recruit. I wouldn't be surprised if McPhee ends up getting hired as an assistant DL coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Apparently, Stepp has no legs to it
You got a link or are you just guessing? It?s obvious that no one knows s h i t when it comes to our football program. This board seems to be much more beneficial when it comes to baseball! Here?s the real sad part, our past football players know as much about what?s going on as this board. It?s a f u c k i n g guessing game, and it?s obvious that certain people get fed ?info?, but maybe it tells the athletic department who to not share info with at this time. Right now ED is batting .000! I?m not criticizing anyone who provides the info directly, but it?s obvious that some of you are being fed bad info.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81