He was pretty bad this year. I thought he was actually better our 2-10 yearQuote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
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He was pretty bad this year. I thought he was actually better our 2-10 yearQuote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Yes. Our oline coach needs upgradingQuote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
Any word on Dyson from Tulane? BlackSails said it looked good for us today, but have not seen anything official.
Loadholt sucks. I think he's the worst coach on the staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
And no clue why we'd keep Owens and Mayberry and not work
Not posting this to be negative. Just for info.
247 has our portal class ranked 27th right now with 8 commits. Ole Piss is ranked 7th with 8 commits.
We have definitely filled some positions of need so far. Still got alot of work to do but I'm happy with most of the players we have got. We also get punished for being MSU with players losing stars when they commit to us.
I'm giving him a pass on this year because of when he was hired. Our talent wasn't very good IMO. We had too many sophomores playing and guys like Work and Lewis playing out of position. We really only had one quality tackle and that was Reese. Well maybe Steen too but he was hurt. It's hard for a line to gel when there are constant injuries and young guys playing out of position.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
My guess is we'll get some offensive linemen over the weekend and by Monday we'll see where we stand. It kind of appears as if we are doing visits in groups based on position somewhat. That might be why we have a ton of DB commits and we do have a lot of OL/DL visiting Thursday through the weekend.
Owen was only a sophomore. Hopefully he will improve or at least provide depth. Him starting certainly isn't a given at this point I would think.
Because they have 2 years of film on Work to see that he can't help us. He also wasn't recruited by this staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
He'll get done with his NC State visit today and we'll know more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
Starting to worry that Dyson isn't going to commit. We need that guy. Any updates?
My guess is that he will have more visits, the kid is talented. I would think we can outbid NC State.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yep, this dude is a game changer. Him and Whitson on the same DL would be the closest we have been to repeating Sweat/Simmons.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
We need to make sure money is not the issue. He is worth a big sack.
Guy below posted DJ Chester is visiting, he is damn important. He is the type of player we need to be going after. Sure, he didn't have a great year, but the kid is talented and has proven he can play in this league. Too many of the guys we have coming on campus are guys that have not proven it on the field. Chester is not one of those - he can play at this level. He is an instant starter for us. I like kids like Nash who have potential, but we can't afford to sign kids based on potential.
We have to sign kids that have proven they can play at the SEC level. Yes, it will be hard, but players like Chester give me hope that we can get more. The list of players posted in another thread was somewhat depressing except for Chester and Kelby Collins, but at this point we need bodies so I will take it.
So he cant play here but Missouri wants him? That doesn't make sense to me.🤔Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
they are hoping he computes to a solid backup
Ok but Mizzou signed him. A better program than us.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I really don't care about work. If we can get better guys, please do. But Owens is G5 at best. Give me work over him all day. Just watch the Mayo bowl film. And Mayberry couldn't get on the field with our horrible OL.
Loadholt sucks. Go get a proven OL coach.
Wait. You talk to the Missouri Coaches? How else would you know they are ?hoping he computes to solid backup? And he was a backup here. Why leave if you can accept being a backup?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
Work couldn't beat Owens out. Work was not good this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Can we please not turn this into a firing thread?
Work wants to play on a good team. end of story and a great kidQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Look at the Colorado OL under Loadholt. Even with Sanders, who has now started a couple of games in the NFL (although for the hapless Browns), and held the ball too long, ala Shapen, our OL this year got worse as the year progressed. We hired Kennedy after Arkansas fired him, and now Loadholt, who is probably not missed. by Primetime. We hire too many castoffs as coaches after failures at other programs. JMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Who on our OL was good this year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Reese was good when he was healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Bring back Hevesy!
Yet when he played instead of Owens we moved the ball and scored on 3 straight possessions, inside zone popped for then only time all night, and he graded out higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I'm not saying either were great. Even good. But work was better vs Wake.
Reese was solid. James had moments. Jackson was serviceable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Nobody was what I would call good.
So Sigler comes in for a visit this afternoon and immediately commits to Auburn!
So both of our OL transfer commits has zero snaps between both of them?
I'm pretty sure the FSU kid has 0 snaps. Not sure about the other one you're referring to. This is extremely concerning.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
When I see these type of situations I see a coach telling them to find another home because they won't be playing there. I know that's not always the situation, but that's what I see. Due to the fact of how we have not done very well in the portal recently with guys in the trenches. I hope I'm wrong.
So do you think that we out recruited FSU in any position the last 2-4 years? Yet, people are going to question losing Work & company to other teams as backups? Who?s to say that these guys are not better the what we had?? Some of you guys need to just shut up and let it play out before judging based on some bs numbers. I would rather have P4 players than what we have had the past few years. It?s definitely an improvement from what we?ve been signing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
I see the logic of both sides. I do agree with you that all we can do is let it play out thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Thick
I'm not saying they are better or worse. A couple we have recruited have 0 snaps so there are no numbers to base it off of. I agree that we need P4 players. But we need experienced P4 players. Unless you know for a fact the guy can play at this level. I get recruiting based off talent, but we lost a bunch of games this year due to our trenches being weak. Therefore I feel it's a necessity that you bring in guys you know can play; not hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
I'm not bashing our recruiting. You won't see me bashing coaches or players on this board. I may ask questions and raise concerns, but bashing is not my thing. I want more than anybody for our coaches and players to be successful. I don't think its unreasonable to question recruiting a guy with 0 playing time in our biggest position of need with our history in the portal so far.
I don?t see any logic! What I see are some people that think that we can attract ?P4 starters to a program that happens to be in the SEC, but haven?t accomplished shit in that period.? We have to prove ourselves as legitimate competitors in this league, and it begins with better talent. If we are signing P4 players compared to what we have signed in the past, that means we have opened eyes enough to gain their interest. That?s a positive for us compared to what we?ve done lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
100%. That's the only thing you can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
I hear it's down to us and Home Depot**Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
By the way. Work might be transferring to Delta State.
working
Work committed to Missouri yesterday I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
I mean, might as well shut down the site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
I think it is fair to be worried that so far we have two OL commits, and neither have played a snap since high school. That is fair.
The bears are landing top 5 OL in the portal, and we are signing guys with zero experience. At some point we have to sign some actual dudes who have proved they are dogs on the P4 level.
No doubt. There is no way around it. Yoi can't just keep shooting from the hip and hoping for the best. That's what I am seeing right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Anyone with size and speed can look good at a camp or whatever. But until you put the pads on and line up across from another grown man wanting to run through you for 4 quarters then coaches truly can't evaluate you. Experience is #1. Preferably at a P4 level.