Absolutely agree but ... not getting my hopes up on it. I'm like you in that I wish Leach would reconsider.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Absolutely agree but ... not getting my hopes up on it. I'm like you in that I wish Leach would reconsider.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
If we were going to keep Shoop we would have done it already. I still think we need to look at the USM guy or the UAB guy.
My guess is we're about to get somebody out of left field
Like IYOK said, swing back around to Hazelton at KSU and push for him. He only makes $550k. Offer him $1-1.2 mil.
Go talk to Bateman. It's been said he had interest in the job but we never contacted him much. He's only making $600k. Get to $1-1.2 mil and I don't see him saying no to that if he has interest in the job.
I'm guessing it's going to be someone completely out of left field and won't be either of them.
Clemson is the only one I can remember that did.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
There's a thought in me that Shoop may not want to be DC right now anyway. Not sure tho. Between his down years at TN and this past year and the acrimonious parting with PSU, he has some baggage that may be putting top tier programs off some. I was kinda fearing that Saban may snatch him up. Glad that didn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And they did that due to staff continuityQuote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
And being in a great location to land talent in a conference that allows teams to rise. I don't think dabo could've built that program in Starkville in the sec westQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
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Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah, Shoop's had a weird run over the past four seasons in the SEC. 2018's defense was obviously elite. But the other three years stunk. Bad. Maybe it's just bad luck, but damn. I mean, in three of the past four years his defenses have been 12th, 11th, and 12th in the SEC scoring D, 14th, 10th, and 11th in the SEC in total D, 12th, 14th, and 11th in the SEC in opponents' yards per rush, 9th, 14th, and 10th in the SEC in opponents' 3rd down conversion %, and 10th, 10th, and 13th in opponents' redzone TD%.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
That's either a hell of a string of inexplicably bad luck or a troubling trend. Either way, I can see why another school would look at those numbers from afar and balk at giving him a P5 DC gig right now.
He certainly is in a pretty good location and also not surrounded by 2 behemoths and 2 break the rules at all costs wannabees either.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Agree. Proximity to Atlanta & in a conference that provided little resistance. Huge advantages.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Still though, they've always had those advantages. It was the coaching staff continuity & a transcendent leader in Dabo that really figured out the secret sauce.
Clayton White - WKU
David Reese - UAB
Scottie Hazelton - Kansas St
Jay Bateman - UNC
Some names to remember
What's your thoughts on White & Reese?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Not with Veneables. If he wanted a HC job he would have been gone years ago and then we have no idea if that would be true with a DC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
This whole coaching search even with Leach has the potential to be a cluster**** of epic proportions.
I don't think you understand what epic proportions meansQuote:
Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
Only if he hires the wrong guy. Whether or not you've heard of him is meaningless.Quote:
Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
Personally, I think once DCs are competent, there is very little difference between them.
Defense above all else is decided by talent & speed. Offense is where I care much more about hiring.
Mullen had a different DC almost every year at MSU & he still won
Nobody remembers coaching searches if the coaches win. You think TN fans care about the Schiano debacle & all the jokes they took? Nobody cares now because it's looking like the got the hire right.Quote:
Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
They both have things that I like about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Prepare for a debate on your last statement, which I agree with BTWQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Defense may suck this season. Get ready for it.
I look for most of the loud, angry MSU fans that hated Moohead to hate Leach just as bad (except for the improved passing numbers).
We will lose games, but bet the over. Can't have it all. It's a trade-off. Offense will put butts in the seats.