Spring "game" thread?

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

Getting to 7 wins with our schedule is a cake walk (4 easy OOC games and beating shitty Ark, OM, and Kentucky). Those imo are all wins which means we only have to beat Tennessee to get to 8-4. So you’re saying that’s impossible? The stars aligned for Kentucky last year and they don’t have anyone like Allen or that RB on their team in 2019. Florida was a NY6 team who won their bowl and we were a dropped pass away from beating them. They are replaced by a meh Tennessee team that is being led by an O-like moron in Pruitt. We were two dropped passes from finishing 10-3 on the season. We will be okay in 2019. A lot of teams on our schedule have a hell of a lot of deficiencies as well minus Alabama who basically has the number 1 recruiting class every year.

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To me it comes down to:

1. Will we be able and willing to sit Guidry and play Whop over him and use Williams in the slot?

2. Auburn is a wild card. Are they National Championship caliber Auburn? Are they 8-4 Auburn? Are the 3 win dumpster fire Auburn? If they either of the first two we probably lose there. If they lose to Oregon and A&M I like our odds. That's a season defining swing game for both of us.

3. Is Tennessee this years UK? With our "luck"** yes. But they play Florida and Georgia before us while we have a bye week. If they upset either of those two we could have a problem there. Those to games will determine our psyche going into the LSU game which will be tough. And then also our psyche going into the Texas A&M game after that as well. If we lose four in a row how will our team mentally handle going into Fayetteville with a four game losing streak?

4. I do think we have a chance to finish strong. Alabama is impossible to beat for us no matter what and the officials won't allow it although we will play our ass off. I think we find a way to beat Arkansas, and then we have Abeline Christian and Ole Miss at home.

When we've had a "1999" or "1980" or "2010" or "2014" season we had to have things break our way with the schedule. It's not a coincidence that we played Vanderbilt three of those four seasons. I know that was a sticking point with 1999 that we didn't have to play Tennessee, Florida, or Georgia that year but that was just how the schedule fell. Same with 1998 although we actually lost to UK that year. Anyway- we need to pull for Oregon and A&M to beat Auburn, Florida to beat Kentucky, Florida and Georgia to beat Tennessee, Texas and Florida to beat LSU, Clemson and Bama to beat A&M, and for Arkansas to not have any upsets.

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Originally Posted by DancingRabbit

Three years ago we went 5-7, so you never know.

But if you know something, Vegas says bring it on.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-.../story/1963735

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Wait- wasn't the greatest coach ever in MSU history our coach then? How could that be?**

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

To me it comes down to:

1. Will we be able and willing to sit Guidry and play Whop over him and use Williams in the slot?

2. Auburn is a wild card. Are they National Championship caliber Auburn? Are they 8-4 Auburn? Are the 3 win dumpster fire Auburn? If they either of the first two we probably lose there. If they lose to Oregon and A&M I like our odds. That's a season defining swing game for both of us.

3. Is Tennessee this years UK? With our "luck"** yes. But they play Florida and Georgia before us while we have a bye week. If they upset either of those two we could have a problem there. Those to games will determine our psyche going into the LSU game which will be tough. And then also our psyche going into the Texas A&M game after that as well. If we lose four in a row how will our team mentally handle going into Fayetteville with a four game losing streak?

4. I do think we have a chance to finish strong. Alabama is impossible to beat for us no matter what and the officials won't allow it although we will play our ass off. I think we find a way to beat Arkansas, and then we have Abeline Christian and Ole Miss at home.

When we've had a "1999" or "1980" or "2010" or "2014" season we had to have things break our way with the schedule. It's not a coincidence that we played Vanderbilt three of those four seasons. I know that was a sticking point with 1999 that we didn't have to play Tennessee, Florida, or Georgia that year but that was just how the schedule fell. Same with 1998 although we actually lost to UK that year. Anyway- we need to pull for Oregon and A&M to beat Auburn, Florida to beat Kentucky, Florida and Georgia to beat Tennessee, Texas and Florida to beat LSU, Clemson and Bama to beat A&M, and for Arkansas to not have any upsets.

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Tennessee isn’t this year’s Kentucky. Their OL is going to hold them back. It’s probably one of the worst in the conference. I’d say they are a 5 to 7 win team max. They built their rep off beating a meh Auburn team which Pruitt studied Malzhan’s formations and knew exactly when Auburn was going to run and pass and they beat Kentucky who seems to have a mind block on Tennessee and this was right after Georgia blasted Kentucky so it was a let down game. As stated, we will easily get to 7 as we easily our talent 7 of the 12 teams on our schedule then it’s just a matter of winning one of the following: Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, or A&M. I think we can get to 8.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

So a guy who is behind the guy and a guy who hasn't stepped on campus. And we start 3 wr. It's like the backup qb theory when next guy is bound to be better. Fact is we don't have much talent there. Fact. Until proven otherwise. But wait til next year.....that's what I've heard forever.
ETA- Payton might be the answer however, it's nothing more than a hope or a guess. He comes in w way less accolades than Guidry at the same point in his career

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Yes, Whop caught every ball that touched his hands during The game. Guidry dropped every pass that touched his hands. That changes the depth chart. Guidry is starting off pure potential he has the worst hands on the team during games.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Yes, Whop caught every ball that touched his hands during The game. Guidry dropped every pass that touched his hands. That changes the depth chart. Guidry is starting off pure potential he has the worst hands on the team during games.

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5th highland and last highlight... this is why you stick with him unless he starts tweeting/crying on social media during halftime again

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Originally Posted by msstate7

5th highland and last highlight... this is why you stick with him unless he starts tweeting/crying on social media during halftime again

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http://www.espn.com/college-football...meId=401012321

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Whop and Austin Williams, Deddrick, and either Dontae Jones or Spivey at TE. I agree that's not a deep group but at least Whop and Austin appear to have some rapport with Key. Green had a bad day IMO but he has at least proven that's not the norm for him. I'd try to get a grad transfer in at WR too. Starting that group I'm hoping would cause Guidry to wake up. It might not but at least we have some guys that look like they can at least catch the ball somewhat consistently.

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Agree with your WR list. Not sure I'd give up on Mitchel yet. Williams and Whop have got to see the field though. Williams catches anything within arms reach of him. Whop looks like the next Moulds (not saying he is because haven't seen enough yet but there is potential). Will MSU ever get another Eric Moulds, boy was he special.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Yes, Whop caught every ball that touched his hands during The game. Guidry dropped every pass that touched his hands. That changes the depth chart. Guidry is starting off pure potential he has the worst hands on the team during games.

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Why do people keep thinking Guidry is good. He did zero in JUCO and he's been lacking at MSU. He can't catch a cold. We passed on Drummond and He is At Ole Miss. there are very good WRs in JUCO but we can't pick the right ones.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

To me it comes down to:

1. Will we be able and willing to sit Guidry and play Whop over him and use Williams in the slot?

2. Auburn is a wild card. Are they National Championship caliber Auburn? Are they 8-4 Auburn? Are the 3 win dumpster fire Auburn? If they either of the first two we probably lose there. If they lose to Oregon and A&M I like our odds. That's a season defining swing game for both of us.

3. Is Tennessee this years UK? With our "luck"** yes. But they play Florida and Georgia before us while we have a bye week. If they upset either of those two we could have a problem there. Those to games will determine our psyche going into the LSU game which will be tough. And then also our psyche going into the Texas A&M game after that as well. If we lose four in a row how will our team mentally handle going into Fayetteville with a four game losing streak?

4. I do think we have a chance to finish strong. Alabama is impossible to beat for us no matter what and the officials won't allow it although we will play our ass off. I think we find a way to beat Arkansas, and then we have Abeline Christian and Ole Miss at home.

When we've had a "1999" or "1980" or "2010" or "2014" season we had to have things break our way with the schedule. It's not a coincidence that we played Vanderbilt three of those four seasons. I know that was a sticking point with 1999 that we didn't have to play Tennessee, Florida, or Georgia that year but that was just how the schedule fell. Same with 1998 although we actually lost to UK that year. Anyway- we need to pull for Oregon and A&M to beat Auburn, Florida to beat Kentucky, Florida and Georgia to beat Tennessee, Texas and Florida to beat LSU, Clemson and Bama to beat A&M, and for Arkansas to not have any upsets.

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1- Guidry has a year left to make an impression. The impression he makes can not be "half ass". He's capable.

2- Auburn is not a concern. Gus does not have control of that team. We handled them and will do so this year. We are going to have a great defense again with some improvements on offense.

Auburn has done a HORRIBLE job with training great talent. That OL is shit. And they are seniors this year... mostly REDSHIRT seniors.
- depth chart:

Left tackle:

Prince Tega Wanogho, redshirt senior, started all 13 games in 2018
Bailey Sharp, redshirt senior, appeared in 12 games as a reserve in 2018

Left guard:

Marquel Harrell, redshirt senior, started all 13 games in 2018
Kameron Stutts, redshirt freshman, appeared in two games

Center:

Kaleb Kim, redshirt senior, eight starts in 2018

Right guard:

Mike Horton, redshirt senior, started all 13 games in 2018

Right tackle:

Jack Driscoll, redshirt senior, started all 13 games in 2018
Austin Troxell, redshirt sophomore, appeared in all 13 games in 2018

Becoming a senior after being in that system for 5 years is not going to magically make them better. AND I like the outlook for the following year.

We will be 5-0 going into Aurburn... 6-0 coming out.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

1- Guidry has a year left to make an impression. The impression he makes can not be "half ass". He's capable.

2- Auburn is not a concern. Gus does not have control of that team. We handled them and will do so this year. We are going to have a great defense again with some improvements on offense.

Auburn has done a HORRIBLE job with training great talent. That OL is shit. And they are seniors this year... mostly REDSHIRT seniors.
- depth chart:

Left tackle:

Prince Tega Wanogho, redshirt senior, started all 13 games in 2018
Bailey Sharp, redshirt senior, appeared in 12 games as a reserve in 2018

Left guard:

Marquel Harrell, redshirt senior, started all 13 games in 2018
Kameron Stutts, redshirt freshman, appeared in two games

Center:

Kaleb Kim, redshirt senior, eight starts in 2018

Right guard:

Mike Horton, redshirt senior, started all 13 games in 2018

Right tackle:

Jack Driscoll, redshirt senior, started all 13 games in 2018
Austin Troxell, redshirt sophomore, appeared in all 13 games in 2018

Becoming a senior after being in that system for 5 years is not going to magically make them better. AND I like the outlook for the following year.

We will be 5-0 going into Aurburn... 6-0 coming out.

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You show auburn returning pretty much their whole oline and say that's a good thing for us? What? Simmons and sweat ain't lining up on them this year. Last year, we had 3 sacks (all by sweat) and no TFL. Auburn missed a wide open td in that game, fumbled at the goal line, and missed a fg. Everything went right for us

Watching the Spring Game again & JoMo needs a tipping point with this offense. He needs a QB & WR to take the bull by the horns & make it work.

I don't think he's a bad coach or that the offense is flawed, but at some point, someone has to take control & that hasn't happened yet.

Feels like the offense will just be stuck in sand, slowly treading along, until a QB & WR decide it times to step up. I'm not sure if the buy in & accountability is there yet in the locker room.

I mean, KT started off 1/7 for yesterday. 1 for freaking 7.

Regardless of who's fault it is, players just aren't taking control of the situation & do what they need to do to make things work.

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

Why do people keep thinking Guidry is good. He did zero in JUCO and he's been lacking at MSU. He can't catch a cold. We passed on Drummond and He is At Ole Miss. there are very good WRs in JUCO but we can't pick the right ones.

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I have no idea why.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

You show auburn returning pretty much their whole oline and say that's a good thing for us? What? Simmons and sweat ain't lining up on them this year. Last year, we had 3 sacks (all by sweat) and no TFL. Auburn missed a wide open td in that game, fumbled at the goal line, and missed a fg. Everything went right for us

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Yep. I showed an OL that was shit last year and the lack of development by Gus's coaching. They are not going to be improved.

- their QB had a 21qbr. he was 50%.
- we did have TFL.. Rb Martin had 4 attempts for -2.
- It was not Sweat that did all of the work on our defense. We had 7 PBU. 2 FF. Sweat had 3 tackles only.

- Just as Auburn missed some plays, we did too. The point is Auburn made no improvements to that OL. Lost a starting QB and seems they will rely on a true freshman.

- Our defense will not miss mush of a step this year.

Auburn does not concern me.....

After seeing the same slow moving, inaccurate QB having, WR dropping, offense we had last year in yesterday's scrimmage....how anyone could say "auburn doesn't concern me" is beyond me. Everyone should concern us based on what I saw yesterday

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

After seeing the same slow moving, inaccurate QB having, WR dropping, offense we had last year in yesterday's scrimmage....how anyone could say "auburn doesn't concern me" is beyond me. Everyone should concern us based on what I saw yesterday

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Auburn is going to be really good next year if they can put it together offensively.

So is MSU......

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Originally Posted by timotheus

So is MSU......

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Works for me

Don't wear maroon colored glasses to Spring FB Games at State. Your eyes will too often hurt when the real season starts!****

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Yes, Whop caught every ball that touched his hands during The game. Guidry dropped every pass that touched his hands. That changes the depth chart. Guidry is starting off pure potential he has the worst hands on the team during games.

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Maybe if Whop gets the start it'll encourage Guidry to start catching the ball. As I recall, he dropped one in the breadbasket a few months ago to lose the bowl game.