If he's trying to steal mins there, I wish he woulda used Warren.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
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If he's trying to steal mins there, I wish he woulda used Warren.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
This is a team Howland would have lost. Hell we mostly expected to lose it there at the end. Jans is a culture changer. We don't rely on one guy to carry. We've got 8 different guys that can takeover a game on any given night.
This win punctuates us being a top 15 team. A win saturday and you can't deny we're top 10. Everything in front of us.
Always a big deal to win on the road. Obviously some things to clean up but thats a solid Q1 win
For all the bitching doom and gloom (myself included) during the mid 2nd half collapse....
ESPN never had our win probability drop below 80% and Vandy never got within one score.
We won an SEC game on the road. Thats tough to do especially this season considering how good the SEC is. Hubbard and Kugel struggled, especially Kugel but there will be games like this, it happens. Good thing is we have enough depth this year to overcome it. Tonight Melendez, Cam and Harris got it done.
Jans has got to keep Kugel engaged. And he's got to put him in position to be successful. We saw the talent and what he's capable of vs Memphis and Bethune.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
We could have done a lot of things better but #1, and #6 lost on the road tonight so I'll definitely take it. I'm not sure what is going on with Clary but if he's not going to be back soon I would like to see Warren when we are up by 20.
We need another ball handler.
And Kugel has to play with high energy and stay locked in. I'm sure it's tough not seeing the floor until the 13 minute mark but he needs to stay unselfish.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I agree with you, and as bad as Kugel played tonight we know what he is capable of doing and we will need him going forward. When he is on he is tough for anyone to stop. Sometimes he looks uninterested but I think that's just his personalityQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
It doesn't seem like Jans fully trusts Warren yet, I'm not sure when we get Clary back so until then Kugel and Cam will have to help with ball handling duties. Let's be honest, until tonight Kugel was doing a pretty good job running some back up point considering that's not his natural position, but we do need a healthy Clary back and I hope to see him soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by LC Dawg
I would also include Nwoko in that. He was very physical tonight and we needed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
Usually Cam runs point forward but he was on the bench with 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
Vandy wisely pressed every time Hubbard was on the bench. That coach is going to be a problem.
Agreed, I like Nwoko.. he is athletic, has some size and has good intangibles. He isn't the bruiser type big man that we have had but he brings enough athleticism, size and hard work that he contributes. He is still young also and can develop into good SEC big as long as he continues to work hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by LC Dawg
True and Jans chose not to go with Warren so that kind of tells you he isn't ready for prime time just yet. Harris and Melendez can also bring the ball up some so again, we are lucky to have the depth we do this year but we could definitely use Clary soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Yes they have a pretty dang good coach, Vandy went 9-23 last year and are already 13-2 this year with some solid wins under this coach, he won alot at JMU also. The SEC is going to be very scary for years to come
With Kugel so disengaged tonight. I wonder if he is going to be our sulking violet. Or maybe his girlfriend left him and his dog died. Something was very off from the minute he entered the game.
I think MSU fans were haunted by that game against Vanderbilt where they had that dude that literally could not miss and led them to a big comeback a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
That is going to be Kugel some nights. Jans probably waited a little too long to get him in and let him get in the flow of the game too. I felt like he was pressing trying to speed his way into the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
That game is old enough to drive at this point. ****ing Shan Foster hit 4 3s in the final 45 seconds of 4th/OT and we lost by 1 in OT iirc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
That was the stupidest damn game. We should have won the thing like 3 times. Memorial Gym was a graveyard for our teams in those days. Never won there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Another eye opening stat line is we scored 76 points on only 57 shots. 57 shots were a high number for Jans's previous couple of teams and we were reeling off about 55 points per game. Vandy did a pretty good job slowing our offense down and we also got out rebounded for the first time in a while. I hope we get some adrenaline going when Big Blue comes in the building and we get 30 point Josh back on Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU