THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

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11-12-2019, 04:22 PM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

You know Mullen quit after 2016. But we’ve got and Errol & Gay. Both, Mullen guys. Their backups are both Mullen guys. Joe has failed to recruit the LB position this year. Last year we can blame Mullen but we slow played Cooper and took a kid we knew was likely to end up at OM. Wheat will play but we’ve got a lot of dead ships at the LB spot and no recruits to flip them.

Joe and his staff actually closed Brule. He didn’t decomit from UGA till end of December.
We signed the 2 other LB with Johnson and Watson who Joe held on to.
Purvis last year who may grow into LB
And now he has commits from Groce and Wheat..

That’s 6 possible LBs on the rooster under Joe when the 2020 season starts . With Errol and Gay possible still here
11-12-2019, 04:40 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Joe and his staff actually closed Brule. He didn’t decomit from UGA till end of December.
We signed 2 maybe 3 if Purvis makes the jump to LB with Johnson and Watson
And now he has commits from Groce and Wheat..

That’s 6 possible LBs on the rooster under Joe when the 2020 season starts . With Errol and Gay possible still here

Is Jett Johnson ever going to factor in or is he even still around? Seemed like he was someone everyone was high on and just vanished.
11-12-2019, 04:50 PM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Is Jett Johnson ever going to factor in or is he even still around? Seemed like he was someone everyone was high on and just vanished.

Tutor gate... we will see
11-12-2019, 04:56 PM
Cooterpoot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Joe and his staff actually closed Brule. He didn?t decomit from UGA till end of December.
We signed 2 maybe 3 if Purvis makes the jump to LB with Johnson and Watson
And now he has commits from Groce and Wheat..

That?s 6 possible LBs on the rooster under Joe when the 2020 season starts . With Errol and Gay possible still here

I agree on a Brule. I don?t see Jett (Mullen) as an adequate option. Purvis is a safety, would suck to move him. Watson (Mullen) has ability, just needs some time. So, Joe brought in Brule and Groce. Gay leaving is about 75%. Take Gay and Purvis out and you?ve got a very thin group, with very limited talent.
We needed to hit on a LB or two this year.
11-12-2019, 05:01 PM
Percho

I am so depressed after reading the last three pages on this thread.

Gloom despair and agony on me.
11-12-2019, 05:10 PM
Cooterpoot

I like this class overall. We got some got players. It’s not going to be great from a ranking perspective (about normal), and for a down year in state, it’s a solid class. Missed at LB so far but not much else.
11-12-2019, 05:40 PM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I agree on a Brule. I don?t see Jett (Mullen) as an adequate option. Purvis is a safety, would suck to move him. Watson (Mullen) has ability, just needs some time. So, Joe brought in Brule and Groce. Gay leaving is about 75%. Take Gay and Purvis out and you?ve got a very thin group, with very limited talent.
We needed to hit on a LB or two this year.

So this is Joe’s 2nd full year at recruiting and he is has 2LBs this year , possible 1 with Purvis las year, kept 2 of Mullen’s guys and closed Brule who is contributing this year..

That’s my point at the beginning of all of this , outside of Willie and Errol where are the upperclass LB.. there are none, the backup is a redshirt freshman in Brule and Tim Washington a 5th SR that has basically done nothing
That’s on Mullen and his staff.
Just like the lack of upperclass DL and RB..,

Not only is Joe having to try and recruit better players , he is having to also recruit the mismanagement of the roster
11-12-2019, 05:42 PM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by Percho

I am so depressed after reading the last three pages on this thread.

Gloom despair and agony on me.

Groce has a really good offer sheet. And some of our commits are underrated and the juco guys are very underrated.. and they are college impact ready next year
At least Lawson, Heath, Wheat and Davis are..
11-12-2019, 06:02 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

So this is Joe’s 2nd full year at recruiting and he is has 2LBs this year , possible 1 with Purvis las year, kept 2 of Mullen’s guys and closed Brule who is contributing this year..

That’s my point at the beginning of all of this , outside of Willie and Errol where are the upperclass LB.. there are none, the backup is a redshirt freshman in Brule and Tim Washington a 5th SR that has basically done nothing
That’s on Mullen and his staff.
Just like the lack of upperclass DL and RB..,

Not only is Joe having to try and recruit better players , he is having to also recruit the mismanagement of the roster

I’m not disagreeing about the roster. Mullen quit after 2015. My only big complaint is the LB position this round.
11-12-2019, 06:11 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Hey at least JoMo isn't falling asleep on recruits' couches!

You have to be impressed with this one.
11-12-2019, 07:17 PM
msbulldog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Percho

I am so depressed after reading the last three pages on this thread.

Gloom despair and agony on me.

Deep Dark Depression, Excessive Misery

If not for Bad Luck, I'd have no luck at all! Whoooooaaaa!
11-12-2019, 08:37 PM
DeviousDawg

Tyrus Wheat is going to be an NFL draft pick. He’s a freak and will be an immediate impact JUCO guy. He’s a 4 star talent. Just go watch his film.

Groce has a good “offer list”, but there is a huge difference in committable offers and reported offers. He’s a P5 guy but he is slow and not very versatile, but like many have said, good 4th option, low ceiling, high floor.
11-12-2019, 08:38 PM
DeviousDawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I like this class overall. We got some got players. It’s not going to be great from a ranking perspective (about normal), and for a down year in state, it’s a solid class. Missed at LB so far but not much else.

Agreed.
11-12-2019, 10:29 PM
Ari Gold

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Originally Posted by DeviousDawg

Tyrus Wheat is going to be an NFL draft pick. He?s a freak and will be an immediate impact JUCO guy. He?s a 4 star talent. Just go watch his film.

Groce has a good ?offer list?, but there is a huge difference in committable offers and reported offers. He?s a P5 guy but he is slow and not very versatile, but like many have said, good 4th option, low ceiling, high floor.

Was committed to Nebraska and Even if you take away the instate offers still has over a half dozen P5 offers.
Bottom line is no one has any idea how this kid will pan out ..
Let?s Just welcome the kid to the Fam...
11-12-2019, 10:53 PM
Bothrops

I wish we could find a 3rd LB and a juco WR, along with a DL and OL.
11-13-2019, 12:22 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Tutor gate... we will see

I think our fans would feel a little bit better about LB if we had some of the Tutor Gate guys available to play. Especially since our fans are so black and white with everything. If they don't see it they don't believe it. And even then they don't believe it half the time.
11-13-2019, 12:24 AM
Todd4State

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Gold

So this is Joe’s 2nd full year at recruiting and he is has 2LBs this year , possible 1 with Purvis las year, kept 2 of Mullen’s guys and closed Brule who is contributing this year..

That’s my point at the beginning of all of this , outside of Willie and Errol where are the upperclass LB.. there are none, the backup is a redshirt freshman in Brule and Tim Washington a 5th SR that has basically done nothing
That’s on Mullen and his staff.
Just like the lack of upperclass DL and RB..,

Not only is Joe having to try and recruit better players , he is having to also recruit the mismanagement of the roster

That's really the biggest improvement. I'm not worried about the "Average star per player" stuff because what has caused our holes is simply not recruiting to a position group for a year or two.
11-13-2019, 12:27 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Groce has a really good offer sheet. And some of our commits are underrated and the juco guys are very underrated.. and they are college impact ready next year
At least Lawson, Heath, Wheat and Davis are..

Joe is going to need them to be if he stays next year. And he's going to need to get some of our potential early entry guys to stay.

It wouldn't be the first time JUCO's saved a MSU coach.
11-13-2019, 01:06 AM
Irondawg

Given the lack of new names I'm wondering if we've had contact with some potential grad transfers at OLB.
11-13-2019, 02:47 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

Given the lack of new names I'm wondering if we've had contact with some potential grad transfers at OLB.

I don't see why we would? Errol is likely to return or at least he should. (I know- Bear Wilson) Worst case scenario is Wheat, Brule, and Nathan Watson. We really don't know what we have with Jett Johnson yet because of Tutor Gate but I would imagine that he is probably a pretty solid player. And of course there is a chance that Gay and Errol return.

Our staff will probably wait and see who all goes pro and then make adjustments to the recruiting class at that point. Like if Hill goes pro I could see us possibly going after a JUCO back and then if Errol and Gay both go pro maybe then we go after a JUCO or a grad transfer there.

Really if anything we need a grad transfer at safety more than anything at this point.

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