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10-17-2019, 12:26 PM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

True - at the end of the day the state produces enough rates talent that we should always be in the 30's. It's how you can sell your program outside the state that tells me if you can really recruit or not. That and keeping the absolute top talent in state if you have more influence than OM in that area. I mean a kid like Dean was a great fit at MSU (4H kid, etc) and it was a position of huge need and we couldn't even get an official visit.

Kinda hard going against Georgia, who lately have been in the playoff discussion.
10-17-2019, 03:15 PM
Irondawg

I'm just saying we couldn't even get him on an official. Losing to Georgia isn't anything totally shameful but if we're going to climb the mountain we have to keep some of the top players in state and at MSU
10-17-2019, 04:20 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by msugolf

1. I'd wait till signing day to be touting his recruiting skills. I think we'll lose a couple of highly rated guys.

2. Were currently 20th with 6-7 more commits than a lot of other schools. We've hit our ceiling on that ranking while others can move past us.

3. Dan had several classes in the mid 20s (where this one will end up IMO). And he had a class ranked 18th.

4. Our highest rated guys in this class are skill guys which tend to be more hit or miss than interior guys.

All that to say I think the notions of JoMo being some elite recruiter are being grossly exaggerated and it's become the narrative with everyone that mentions keeping him.

If Mullen was still here right now, our current class would be many spots down from where we currently sit. Now, this class is likely to get dismantled due to bad losses this year, but if everything else is equal on the field, JoMo tops Mullen in recruiting.
10-17-2019, 05:08 PM
timotheus

but JoMo couldn't motivate a soul, thus the end result will be much worse.
10-17-2019, 08:38 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

If Mullen was still here right now, our current class would be many spots down from where we currently sit. Now, this class is likely to get dismantled due to bad losses this year, but if everything else is equal on the field, JoMo tops Mullen in recruiting.

.....and if IF were a skiff we could all go sailing.....this is so disheartening
10-18-2019, 10:38 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

If Mullen was still here right now, our current class would be many spots down from where we currently sit. Now, this class is likely to get dismantled due to bad losses this year, but if everything else is equal on the field, JoMo tops Mullen in recruiting.

No it wouldn’t. It would be within a point or two in the rankings either way. Even keeping who we have, we’re going to finish mid 20s at best anyway, and bottom of our division.
10-18-2019, 03:39 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

No it wouldn’t. It would be within a point or two in the rankings either way. Even keeping who we have, we’re going to finish mid 20s at best anyway, and bottom of our division.

Nope, because Marks would have never been on the list.
10-18-2019, 06:08 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Nope, because Marks would have never been on the list.

That’s false, in the sense that Mullen signed a player rated that high or higher nearly every year...2 players higher than Marks in 2 classes, I believe. Cooter point is pretty much right on
10-18-2019, 06:21 PM
BrunswickDawg

FYI - Don't know who he is looking at, but my cousin just texted me that Deke Adams is at the Marietta vs McEachern game outside Atlanta. Hopefully my Marietta Blue Devils can pull one out tonight.
10-19-2019, 12:59 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

No it wouldn’t. It would be within a point or two in the rankings either way. Even keeping who we have, we’re going to finish mid 20s at best anyway, and bottom of our division.

The biggest thing Joe has done is balance out the roster. That’s a big deal. We shouldn’t be starting freshmen at DT.
10-19-2019, 01:54 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

That’s false, in the sense that Mullen signed a player rated that high or higher nearly every year...2 players higher than Marks in 2 classes, I believe. Cooter point is pretty much right on

We aren't talking about other classes. Marks would not be a Mullen commit. I'll let you find an equal or greater ranked player that Mullen would have committed right now.
10-19-2019, 04:38 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We aren't talking about other classes. Marks would not be a Mullen commit. I'll let you find an equal or greater ranked player that Mullen would have committed right now.

I don’t have to, your statement is just hyperbole because we have a history showing that Mullen did have players rated higher for several of his classes.
10-19-2019, 04:47 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I don’t have to, your statement is just hyperbole because we have a history showing that Mullen did have players rated higher for several of his classes.

We'll see how Marks ends up in the rankings.
10-19-2019, 04:55 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We'll see how Marks ends up in the rankings.

You think he ends up a 5-star like Simmons or Jones?
10-19-2019, 05:08 PM
msugolf

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Originally Posted by msstate7

You think he ends up a 5-star like Simmons or Jones?

It doesn't matter who we have at RB with this Mickey Mouse offense where he runs over to the qb, STOPS, then has to get the ball and read the defense. Takes about 3 seconds before he can actually get back to the LOS. That's why Kylin is struggling against average to above average teams. OL can't be expected to hold their blocks for that long while all this reading of the defense is going on.
10-19-2019, 05:32 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by msugolf

It doesn't matter who we have at RB with this Mickey Mouse offense where he runs over to the qb, STOPS, then has to get the ball and read the defense. Takes about 3 seconds before he can actually get back to the LOS. That's why Kylin is struggling against average to above average teams. OL can't be expected to hold their blocks for that long while all this reading of the defense is going on.

The chances of us signing Marks are slipping by the day. Kylin lacks vision and speed. He's tough though and plays for a shit team. I also agree, this offense won't do anyone any favors. Perhaps it's designed for little league football.
10-20-2019, 06:25 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

The chances of us signing Marks are slipping by the day. Kylin lacks vision and speed. He's tough though and plays for a shit team. I also agree, this offense won't do anyone any favors. Perhaps it's designed for little league football.

If Joe is here so will Marks. If Joe is gone then all bets are off.
10-20-2019, 06:30 PM
jacksondawg

Saw where Martavius French LB from Memphis decommitted from Arkansas today. Any shot here? I know we were on him at one point.
10-20-2019, 06:40 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by jacksondawg

Saw where Martavius French LB from Memphis decommitted from Arkansas today. Any shot here? I know we were on him at one point.

It seems like the Memphis LB trio (French, McDonald, and Eason) are trending to UT.
10-20-2019, 06:43 PM
jacksondawg

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

It seems like the Memphis LB trio (French, McDonald, and Eason) are trending to UT.

That's what I assumed

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