I'm really liking the way we are trending with QB's

Here is the deal

Did the Leach Air Raid work at times? Yes
Did it completely suck at times ? Yes

No matter what offense you run in college football you go as far as your QB can take you
If he is limited your offense is limited
Love him or hate him the one fact about Will is that he is limited at QB . That’s not a knock on the kid it is what it is .

This offense next year won’t look anything like it will in 2024 if we have a different style of QB
If Coach Leach had not passed away , his air raid would have looked a lot different in 2024. I would have loved to see what he could have done with a Hooker ( Tennessee) type QB .

And his version of the offense is much different than the other versions out there , so just saying if we hired an “air raid” guy for the OC doesn’t mean it would have worked , odds are it wouldn’t have been as good

You have to have 2 things if you are MSU to be really competitive in college football IMO
A strong defense and a impact guy at QB .
Besides the covid year , the only other time we had a sub par season 5-7 was the year our defense sucked ass. Of course we did have Peter Sirmon as DC ..

As long as CZA can keep the defense rolling and strong we will be fine , if he can find that IT guy at QB we can make a little noise

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Originally Posted by KB21

Nowhere have I said that.

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"Every team that runs the Air Raid runs his system. There may be a few differences in play calling, but the base stuff and terminology are all the same." - KB

"Kirby Smart hired a coordinator with a background in the air raid." - KB

"While they are not an air raid, all fence, Monken does use air raid concepts and his passing game. Those concepts are what has allowed them to create space for Brock Bowers. They were brought him on mash. They use him on shallow cross. They use him on Y sail and cross." - KB

If we can pull Garcia, that would be huge!

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Here is the deal

Did the Leach Air Raid work at times? Yes
Did it completely suck at times ? Yes

No matter what offense you run in college football you go as far as your QB can take you
If he is limited your offense is limited
Love him or hate him the one fact about Will is that he is limited at QB . That?s not a knock on the kid it is what it is .

This offense next year won?t look anything like it will in 2024 if we have a different style of QB
If Coach Leach had not passed away , his air raid would have looked a lot different in 2024. I would have loved to see what he could have done with a Hooker ( Tennessee) type QB .

And his version of the offense is much different than the other versions out there , so just saying if we hired an ?air raid? guy for the OC doesn?t mean it would have worked , odds are it wouldn?t have been as good

You have to have 2 things if you are MSU to be really competitive in college football IMO
A strong defense and a impact guy at QB .
Besides the covid year , the only other time we had a sub par season 5-7 was the year our defense sucked ass. Of course we did have Peter Sirmon as DC ..

As long as CZA can keep the defense rolling and strong we will be fine , if he can find that IT guy at QB we can make a little noise

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THANK YOU. Will has played hesitant in games (UK and LSU and OM) that has cost us. His lack to let it rip down field killed us. That?s the fact of the matter, he plays not to lose instead of win.

Now I?m excited about us possibly trying to get into the Jake Garcia sweepstakes. A little concerning he didn?t beat out Van Dyke, but Van Dyke has some talent and many draft experts expected him to be in contention to be a top QB taken in this years draft.

Garcia would be a great pick up. Hopefully we see an OV set up. Roberson the WR is coming in tomorrow. Would love to add him for Rara spot.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Garcia would be a great pick up. Hopefully we see an OV set up. Roberson the WR is coming in tomorrow. Would love to add him for Rara spot.

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Wait this actually has a chance at happening? Would be a massive get

Who is Garcia?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Who is Garcia?

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Miami QB Transfer

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Wait this actually has a chance at happening? Would be a massive get

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Roberson we have a good chance I believe. Garcia is still early to tell how interested he is but we have been in contact with him and hope to get something set up.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Roberson we have a good chance I believe. Garcia is still early to tell how interested he is but we have been in contact with him and hope to get something set up.

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That is good to hear. At least we are playing the game

Does Miami have a Target?

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

"Every team that runs the Air Raid runs his system. There may be a few differences in play calling, but the base stuff and terminology are all the same." - KB

"Kirby Smart hired a coordinator with a background in the air raid." - KB

"While they are not an air raid, all fence, Monken does use air raid concepts and his passing game. Those concepts are what has allowed them to create space for Brock Bowers. They were brought him on mash. They use him on shallow cross. They use him on Y sail and cross." - KB

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And none of those comments infer what you are saying I said.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Garcia would be a great pick up. Hopefully we see an OV set up. Roberson the WR is coming in tomorrow. Would love to add him for Rara spot.

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I didn't keep up with Miami this year so what's the deal? I looked at Garcia's highlights and he looked good. Did he get beat out or get hurt along the way?

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Originally Posted by KB21

And none of those comments infer what you are saying I said.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Miami QB Transfer

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Any kin to Jeff Garcia?

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Originally Posted by Dawgface

I didn't keep up with Miami this year so what's the deal? I looked at Garcia's highlights and he looked good. Did he get beat out or get hurt along the way?

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He got beat out by Van Dyke who was a Soph.

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Any kin to Jeff Garcia?

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I don't know, hadn't seen it mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Here is the deal

Did the Leach Air Raid work at times? Yes
Did it completely suck at times ? Yes

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Exactly, Some guys are so black and white, there is a whole lot of gray that gets ignored. We all get so passionate but some get dug in on thinking something is all good or all bad.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Garcia would be a great pick up. Hopefully we see an OV set up. Roberson the WR is coming in tomorrow. Would love to add him for Rara spot.

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Roberson plays slot. He's not an outside guy, or at least he wasn't for EWU. He's more Jamire Calvin than Rara

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Roberson plays slot. He's not an outside guy, or at least he wasn't for EWU. He's more Jamire Calvin than Rara

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I think they are recruiting him as an outside WR. His bio says 6'2" and 195. I don't see any reason that we would be recruiting any more slot receivers.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Roberson plays slot. He's not an outside guy, or at least he wasn't for EWU. He's more Jamire Calvin than Rara

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Just the few clips I saw he was lined up outside. They may move him around but we are not recruiting him to play a slot position. He is not the same type of WR as Rara but runs good routes off of different coverages.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

Exactly, Some guys are so black and white, there is a whole lot of gray that gets ignored. We all get so passionate but some get dug in on thinking something is all good or all bad.

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Yes!!!! Couldn't agree more!

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Just the few clips I saw he was lined up outside. They may move him around but we are not recruiting him to play a slot position. He is not the same type of WR as Rara but runs good routes off of different coverages.

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He's played outside a lot and some slot. He's pretty versatile but yeah we aren't recruiting him for a slot guy.

Scratch Garcia

I just looked at the roster and it seems State is down to 2 QBs, Will and Jake Weir from Tupelo. Is that the spring game QBs?

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Originally Posted by Desoto1967

I just looked at the roster and it seems State is down to 2 QBs, Will and Jake Weir from Tupelo. Is that the spring game QBs?

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Parson is here already too.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Parson is here already too.

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Didn't I read here he is injured?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Didn't I read here he is injured?

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Yep

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Yep

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Damn, will gonna have to play both ways in spring game while we making fun of OM having 3 capable qbs lol

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Didn't I read here he is injured?

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Yes. He will be limited but I don't know how much.

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Damn, will gonna have to play both ways in spring game while we making fun of OM having 3 capable qbs lol

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Its never a bad thing to make fun of the bears.

Based on what I am reading on here, we can get a walk on to just hand it off all game*****

Wright this weekend. If he shows, the odds are shrinking. BC is still a head I think though.

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Wright this weekend. If he shows, the odds are shrinking. BC is still a head I think though.

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I doubt he ends up showing and Will would beat him out. He wants a guaranteed starting job.

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Originally Posted by KB21

What song fans refuse to recognize is the fact that Mike had this offense going in the right direction. he inherited a situation with a poor culture. He did not have any receivers. He did not have a spring practice during his first year to install his system. Yet, he improved this offense from 109th in scoring to 60th in scoring to 48 in scoring this year. This year, his offense also improved in points per play. If you look at his history, it took him for years to build the offense the way he wanted it at Washington state. Once he had it where he wanted it, Washington State was a top 18 scoring team in the country. In 2019, Washington state was the 11th best scoring team in the country.

I believe the same thing would?ve happened here had we continued his system.

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This is such a horrifically bad post. It's either really stupid, or intentionally dishonest.

Either way, this offense was not trending in the right direction. Using the scoring ranking is completely moronic. Our PPG were propped up by defense and special teams. And we ran up scores on some really bad teams. When it mattered, our offense was shit more often than not. And this isn't even a controversial take.

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Originally Posted by Desoto1967

I just looked at the roster and it seems State is down to 2 QBs, Will and Jake Weir from Tupelo. Is that the spring game QBs?

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Never heard of Weir. I'm guessing a walk-on from a year ago. Well at least we have another body to run the scout team.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I doubt he ends up showing and Will would beat him out. He wants a guaranteed starting job.

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Wright is on campus

Wright is coming.

I just dont know how to help you guys anymore if you think QB is what held us back from beating UK LSU. At one point we threw the ball 53 snaps in a row. Good luck with that for any offense

Doesn't Wright have 2 to play? He will come to MSU now since Will is gone in one and others will be young and the future. He'll get one year to do his thing. That is what he is looking for I think. That is why OM was in mix too. Since our QB room is empty outside Will, he will think he is a shoe in.

Like the price is right - come on down.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I just dont know how to help you guys anymore if you think QB is what held us back from beating UK LSU. At one point we threw the ball 53 snaps in a row. Good luck with that for any offense

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Will could call the plays at the line. He could have checked into run plays.