OC Hot Board Version 3-Let's Try This Again

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

No they'll tote the water and tell you it's not the coaches fault. They'll tell you all these "underrated" players that Bumphis is recruiting and how they're all going to pan out and be superstars. They'll tell we just have to give the new staff time. Maybe that should be our next thread, Excuses Our Dumbass Media Will Use Next Year For The Staff

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Makes you wonder sometimes if they aren’t taking money from Ole Miss or some sec big money people just to keep us at the bottom of the shitter

That actually happened at Texas tech when tech knocked off #1 Texas, the big money boys started looking for ways to sabotage the little upstart.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Well, people connected to the staff are saying it's Bobo. Doesn't appear to be just floating out there, other than like a big turd in a punch bowl.

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Ok so I guess Will Friend will be hired today if these rumors are true.

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Originally Posted by KB21

This should have been an easy decision from the very beginning. You shoot for Zach Kittley, which was always an unlikely hire. You at least try it. Then, you go to Chris Hatcher. The least amount of offensive transition would have been made with Hatcher. He's basically Mike's Air Raid with more RPO and more emphasis on running the ball but not to the point where you are a run first or run to set up the pass team. The guy has been a head coach for 22 years and is still just 49 years old.

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I agree on Chris Hatcher first. He would have accepted the job and we wouldn't be going through all of this crap.............. Some of these spectacular hires are going to really help our NIl aren't they.*** Briles was a pipe dream. The only way he would leave ARK was if he wanted to get away from Pittman.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Makes you wonder sometimes if they aren’t taking money from Ole Miss or some sec big money people just to keep us at the bottom of the shitter

That actually happened at Texas tech when tech knocked off #1 Texas, the big money boys started looking for ways to sabotage the little upstart.

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Oh it's nothing like that. They're just not very good at their job. Steve Robertson was literally known as Rosebowl because he was wrong so many times. He gets one lucky break and everyone acts like he's the next Woj. Brian Hadad is a pizza boy, legitimately. Robbie Faulk does I think try to be a legitimate media member, but when you get brought down by everyone around you you'll never be good. There's a reason anyone who's ever been on the MSU beat tries to get the hell out as soon as possible if they're worth a damn as a journalist.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Oh it's nothing like that. They're just not very good at their job. Steve Robertson was literally known as Rosebowl because he was wrong so many times. He gets one lucky break and everyone acts like he's the next Woj. Brian Hadad is a pizza boy, legitimately. Robbie Faulk does I think try to be a legitimate media member, but when you get brought down by everyone around you you'll never be good. There's a reason anyone who's ever been on the MSU beat tries to get the hell out as soon as possible if they're worth a damn as a journalist.

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I wish Paul would set up his own MSU site. I liked 247 a lot better before the merger.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Oh it's nothing like that. They're just not very good at their job. Steve Robertson was literally known as Rosebowl because he was wrong so many times. He gets one lucky break and everyone acts like he's the next Woj. Brian Hadad is a pizza boy, legitimately. Robbie Faulk does I think try to be a legitimate media member, but when you get brought down by everyone around you you'll never be good. There's a reason anyone who's ever been on the MSU beat tries to get the hell out as soon as possible if they're worth a damn as a journalist.

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Well you say that, but honestly these moves look like program suicide. They are so obviously wrong and self destructive it’s hard to believe they are an accident or incompetence.

It appears as if crazy people are running things.

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Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time

Ok so I guess Will Friend will be hired today if these rumors are true.

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Friend is reportedly being hired by Memphis, so we will see.

Not going to lie, I?ve come to despise Steve. I really wish people would stop listening to him.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

More likely sexton contacted us with a plan to get his guy a raise

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It was both but Sexton did us zero favors in the process and pulled the rug at the last second. He is no friend of MSU.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Oh, while the bad news is flowing, Bracky Brett has a chance to be our full time AD....

So there's that too

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If we do that then I will be done. I can get boosters wanting an AD that will do what they say, but there are a lot of qualified athletic directors that will also be yes men when requested.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Well you say that, but honestly these moves look like program suicide. They are so obviously wrong and self destructive it’s hard to believe they are an accident or incompetence.

It appears as if crazy people are running things.

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It's incompetence. They are looking out for themselves and the people who will help them further their careers with scoops and inside info. Which is fine, that's what media members do. But don't feed us this crap that you're fans and you care about State and then actively look to get coaches removed the staff so your friends can be on staff. So either be a fan or be a member of the media, but you can't be both.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Arnett should be fired on the spot if it?s where it looks like this is headed. That would take an AD with balls. Unfortunately, our good ole boy President has been sitting on his ass for 3 months.

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Arnette has a 4 year 3 million per year contract I heard. He's set then no matter how all this turns out.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

I wish Paul would set up his own MSU site. I liked 247 a lot better before the merger.

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I agree Paul is the best one over there by far. He is able to toe the line between being a journalist and supporting Mississippi State. I respect that. He tells it like it is and doesn't play favorites. He'll tell you when he doesn't like something. I kind of wish he would've made a move to On3 and headed up there State stuff.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Well, people connected to the staff are saying it's Bobo. Doesn't appear to be just floating out there, other than like a big turd in a punch bowl.

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I just cannot believe that is possible. You really think Arnett is looking at Bobo and thinking "yea, he wasn't that great at UGA, but look at the talent constraints he was operating under. He'll be a lot better with the massive talent we have stockpiled."

Granted I think an OC that is an ex head coach is a good idea, but he also has to offer a lot as an OC.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

It's incompetence. They are looking out for themselves and the people who will help them further their careers with scoops and inside info. Which is fine, that's what media members do. But don't feed us this crap that you're fans and you care about State and then actively look to get coaches removed the staff so your friends can be on staff. So either be a fan or be a member of the media, but you can't be both.

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If Mason Miller doesn't just leave because he wants too, then anybody who participated in relieving him of his duties needs a mental exam and doesn't care about Mississippi State football like they say they do. I posted yesterday that Hollingshead would be an OC. I just didn't think it would be this soon.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

If Mason Miller doesn't just leave because he wants too, then anybody who participated in relieving him of his duties needs a mental exam and doesn't care about Mississippi State football like they say they do. I posted yesterday that Hollingshead would be an OC. I just didn't think it would be this soon.

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Drew is the next great young Air Raid coach. He's a future head coach who has been soaking up everything from Mike for the past 6 years or so.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

If we do that then I will be done. I can get boosters wanting an AD that will do what they say, but there are a lot of qualified athletic directors that will also be yes men when requested.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I agree Paul is the best one over there by far. He is able to toe the line between being a journalist and supporting Mississippi State. I respect that. He tells it like it is and doesn't play favorites. He'll tell you when he doesn't like something. I kind of wish he would've made a move to On3 and headed up there State stuff.

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I totally agree and at one point in time I thought he was going to make that move.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

If Mason Miller doesn't just leave because he wants too, then anybody who participated in relieving him of his duties needs a mental exam and doesn't care about Mississippi State football like they say they do. I posted yesterday that Hollingshead would be an OC. I just didn't think it would be this soon.

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I wasn't talking about Mason. I was referencing Hollingshead and Phelps.

Offer will Hall 1.7 million to be Offensive Coordinator

Southern miss can not pay that and he?s a good recruiter , he knows Mississippi , Louisiana , and Alabama very very well

Bring Frank Gore Jr with him

It will help him fast track into being a Higher up G5 head coach

He will be stuck at usm because an 7-8 win season is all they can hope for

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Offer will Hall 1.7 million to be Offensive Coordinator

Southern miss can not pay that and he?s a good recruiter , he knows Mississippi , Louisiana , and Alabama very very well

Bring Frank Gore Jr with him

It will help him fast track into being a Higher up G5 head coach

He will be stuck at usm because an 7-8 win season is all they can hope for

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1. Gore is not better than either Marks or Price
2. I don't give a 17 if he knows MS, LA, or AL very well. We have Tony, Rod, and Brad on staff for that.
3. WE don't have to offer Will F'N Hall 1.7 million. Offer him 700K and say take it or leave it.

I was on the fence about johns, but bobo made me change my mind. Let's get Johns

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

1. Gore is not better than either Marks or Price
2. I don't give a 17 if he knows MS, LA, or AL very well. We have Tony, Rod, and Brad on staff for that.
3. WE don't have to offer Will F'N Hall 1.7 million. Offer him 700K and say take it or leave it. Because unfortunately he is better than Bobo or Chaney.

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What is this “recruit Mississippi” shit ? Lol

That sounds like something from genespage

No wonder they hated Leach, we can’t have any of this national recruiting stuff.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

What is this “recruit Mississippi” shit ? Lol

That sounds like something from genespage

No wonder they hated Leach, we can’t have any of this national recruiting stuff.

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It is from GP. It's from a certain group of people that think the only way we can win is with a bunch of underrated MS diamonds in the rough. So they want to only recruit MS.

Will Friend is going to be hired. His position will not be announced until we get a OC. But I'm not buying the Bobo stuff.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

Offer will Hall 1.7 million to be Offensive Coordinator

Southern miss can not pay that and he?s a good recruiter , he knows Mississippi , Louisiana , and Alabama very very well

Bring Frank Gore Jr with him

It will help him fast track into being a Higher up G5 head coach

He will be stuck at usm because an 7-8 win season is all they can hope for

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Briles wasn't offered $2 million from what I heard from somebody who just doesn't sling something against the wall to see if it will stick like some do . It was more in the $1.8 or a little less. I think Hall left the OC position at Tulane because he wanted to be the HC at USM. So not sure why he would want to go back to a OC position but stranger things have happened I guess.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Will Friend is going to be hired. But I'm not buying the Bobo stuff.

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What happened on Miller. I thought he was a lock to stay?

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Will Friend is going to be hired. His position will not be announced until we get a OC. But I'm not buying the Bobo stuff.

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So regardless it’s a downgrade.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I was on the fence about johns, but bobo made me change my mind. Let's get Johns

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Johns or Hatcher 100% above any of the names we have heard.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

What happened on Miller. I thought he was a lock to stay?

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It's not a certainty one way or the other on whether he stays or goes.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

What happened on Miller. I thought he was a lock to stay?

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He had worked with KB before or they knew each other somehow so that was the thought process behind Miller staying. He has no connection with anyone else mentioned other than probably Hatcher and that's only through both of them knowing Mike.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

So regardless it’s a downgrade.

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Friend is a really good coach.

I have no real info but it's feeling like someone being slipped in to "save the day" from the bad hire. Maybe Mason Miller? I don't know. Something is up.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

It's not a certainty one way or the other on whether he stays or goes.

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Thanks, hopefully he will stay.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Friend is a really good coach.

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So is the like Arnett to Syracuse? Wasn't friend just reportedly hired by Memphis in the last 24 hours ?

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I have no real info but it's feeling like someone being slipped in to "save the day" from the bad hire. Maybe Mason Miller? I don't know. Something is up.

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Let's all pray that happened. Mason would actually make a little sense. Name him OC, keep JWash at RB coach, and bring in Ryan Lindley(who CZA is bound and determined to get on staff) as QB coach. That's better than a lot of options that are currently on the table. I'm just not confident in that.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

He had worked with KB before or they knew each other somehow so that was the thought process behind Miller staying. He has no connection with anyone else mentioned other than probably Hatcher and that's only through both of them knowing Mike.

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Thanks

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Originally Posted by KB21

This should have been an easy decision from the very beginning. You shoot for Zach Kittley, which was always an unlikely hire. You at least try it. Then, you go to Chris Hatcher. The least amount of offensive transition would have been made with Hatcher. He's basically Mike's Air Raid with more RPO and more emphasis on running the ball but not to the point where you are a run first or run to set up the pass team. The guy has been a head coach for 22 years and is still just 49 years old.

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Kittley told us no-twice. Wouldn?t even take an interview. Please people understand this.

As soon as people learn the same group of people who pushed for Brad Peterson and Bumphis to come back are now the one?s pushing for Bracky Brett as AD you will see what some have been saying. There is a fraction of money guys who want access and these guys give them access.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I have no real info but it's feeling like someone being slipped in to "save the day" from the bad hire. Maybe Mason Miller? I don't know. Something is up.

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At this point, I think you can name him and it turn out better than Bobo. Bring Friend in as the OL coach, keep JWash as the RB coach.

Certainly a lot better than Will Hall

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

1. Gore is not better than either Marks or Price
2. I don't give a 17 if he knows MS, LA, or AL very well. We have Tony, Rod, and Brad on staff for that.
3. WE don't have to offer Will F'N Hall 1.7 million. Offer him 700K and say take it or leave it.

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He continues to prove he is the most misinformed poster on this board.