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08-31-2019, 12:43 PM
Saltydog

Still think we're the 3rd best team in the SEC? Still think we win 11?
08-31-2019, 12:43 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by msstate7

ULL defense is pathetic. Sorry reality bothers you

Reality doesn't bother me. You do. But that's your intention. Back on the list you go.
08-31-2019, 12:44 PM
msstate7

Different year, but last season, it was 35-3 at half. We had 5 offensive possessions and scored a td on all 5. Fitz had 4 incompletions in the 1st half
08-31-2019, 12:44 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

So Stevens overthrows a wide open receiver by 20 yards and we aren't allowed to say anything. Are you Tommy's Mom?

If they don?t like it they just can?t stand to hear it, kinda of a sad commentary about our society.
08-31-2019, 12:44 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Reality doesn't bother me. You do. But that's your intention. Back on the list you go.

This really bothers me
08-31-2019, 12:45 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Stevens looks good to me.

He has actually played pretty well, just taking a little long on his decisions at times but hopefully that will improve. His shorter passes have been on target.
08-31-2019, 12:45 PM
dantheman4248

Defense has had one bad drive. Special teams cost us a TD. The issues on offense look more like rust / not used to game speed than lack of talent.
08-31-2019, 12:46 PM
NCDawg

This offense is just like last year. Very slow. Looking over to the sidelines changing the play, letting the clock run down. I had hopes we would go faster this year with a new QB. I guess no such luck, just Moorhead's system. But I, for one, really dislike it.
08-31-2019, 12:46 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

This is why you should play FCS teams week 1 instead of week 13.

Work out the kinks now. Get guys the live game reps that they are not used to.

Memphis 13 - OM 0
Toledo 14 - UK 14
MSU 21 - ULL 14

The entire SEC is struggling this morning.

That's cool if you put us in Kentucky and OM's level, but you yourself said there's a better chance we go 12-0 than 6-6. That seems to imply we are on another level than Kentucky and om
08-31-2019, 12:47 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Different year, but last season, it was 35-3 at half. We had 5 offensive possessions and scored a td on all 5. Fitz had 4 incompletions in the 1st half

Well if we didn’t shoot ourselves in the foot it could easily be 35-7 in this game.
08-31-2019, 12:47 PM
BrunswickDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

Different year, but last season, it was 35-3 at half. We had 5 offensive possessions and scored a td on all 5. Fitz had 4 incompletions in the 1st half

That was also the 3rd game of the year, and Fitz's 2nd. Already had time to work out typical first game issues.
08-31-2019, 12:47 PM
Lord McBuckethead

On the good note, everything I see right now is pretty much coaching. Hill, Mitchell, and Stevens looks like they are here to work. Get a little bit of tempo and get into a groove and we pull away.

On defense, we have sucked so far. People out of position. People not tightening their coverage. People not tackling. That is coaching and players. Shoop should adjust at half.

Lets go.
08-31-2019, 12:48 PM
dantheman4248

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Originally Posted by NCDawg

This offense is just like last year. Very slow. Looking over to the sidelines changing the play, letting the clock run down. I had hopes we would go faster this year with a new QB. I guess no such luck, just Moorhead's system. But I, for one, really dislike it.

Selective watching. We have moved with tempo today between the 20s (drive to end 1st Q, last two drives have all done this with a check one play each drive that just stands out). The red zone is where the offense slows way down.
08-31-2019, 12:48 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

They had a slow start, but we look like a more complete offense compared to last year.

Fitz was 14/21 243 yds 2 td 0 int vs ULL last season. Not sure what you base this on.
08-31-2019, 12:48 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

If they don?t like it they just can?t stand to hear it, kinda of a sad commentary about our society.

There hasn't been a lot about that half of football to be happy with given the competition. That is just the reality of things. Gotta love the MSU board police fans though.
08-31-2019, 12:48 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Defense has had one bad drive. Special teams cost us a TD. The issues on offense look more like rust / not used to game speed than lack of talent.

Good take. I think that is what it is more then anything. Remember this is the first time Stevens has started since high school.
08-31-2019, 12:49 PM
defiantdog

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Originally Posted by msstate7

That's cool if you put us in Kentucky and OM's level, but you yourself said there's a better chance we go 12-0 than 6-6. That seems to imply we are on another level than Kentucky and om

I don't usually agree with you, but you've been on point in this thread.
08-31-2019, 12:50 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Fitz was 14/21 243 yds 2 td 0 int vs ULL last season. Not sure what you base this on.

Where was Fitz in his first ever start? What game was that in the schedule? These things matter. That half of football looked more like a first game. The ULL game last year was what the 3rd or 4th game on the schedule?
08-31-2019, 12:50 PM
Cooterpoot

I feel better since I hit the 10 beer mark.
08-31-2019, 12:50 PM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

Well if we didn’t shoot ourselves in the foot it could easily be 35-7 in this game.

Exactly. I look to clean it up this half.
08-31-2019, 12:51 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Our offense looks like crap too. This is a weak ULL team.

Yeah only 300+ yards this half and on pace to score 42. Turnovers have made us look just ok. Defense needs to tighten up a bit. We'll see if Shoop adjusts.
08-31-2019, 12:51 PM
Westdawg

I have actually seen a young DL that has created some pressure on passing downs and several hits where they simply didn't fully wrap up. And this is a really really good OL. And this will be one of the shiftiest and quick QBs we will see this year
08-31-2019, 12:51 PM
Cooterpoot

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarketingBully

Where was Fitz in his first ever start? What game was that in the schedule? These things matter. That half of football looked more like a first game. The ULL game last year was what the 3rd or 4th game on the schedule?

Fitz first start wasn’t as a SR.
08-31-2019, 12:51 PM
defiantdog

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Fitz was 14/21 243 yds 2 td 0 int vs ULL last season. Not sure what you base this on.

Last year's ULL team was completely different.
08-31-2019, 12:51 PM
MarketingBully

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

On the good note, everything I see right now is pretty much coaching. Hill, Mitchell, and Stevens looks like they are here to work. Get a little bit of tempo and get into a groove and we pull away.

On defense, we have sucked so far. People out of position. People not tightening their coverage. People not tackling. That is coaching and players. Shoop should adjust at half.

Lets go.

The scheme is sound. I’ve seen a shit ton of missed tackles.
08-31-2019, 12:52 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

There hasn't been a lot about that half of football to be happy with given the competition. That is just the reality of things. Gotta love the MSU board police fans though.

Yep, I’m sure they are a real joy live and in person.
08-31-2019, 12:52 PM
msstate7

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarketingBully

Where was Fitz in his first ever start? What game was that in the schedule? These things matter. That half of football looked more like a first game. The ULL game last year was what the 3rd or 4th game on the schedule?

That's fair. Stevens was supposed to be infinitely better in this offense though according to most of this board.
08-31-2019, 12:54 PM
Duckdog

Put in....

KT!!
08-31-2019, 12:54 PM
Lord McBuckethead

A play before 2 seconds on the clock. Let the O get in rhythm
08-31-2019, 12:56 PM
Bdawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

Fitz was 14/21 243 yds 2 td 0 int vs ULL last season. Not sure what you base this on.

Quit comparing last year. Last year don't mean shit for either team. Just like Mullen used to say, it's a new team every year.
08-31-2019, 12:57 PM
MarketingBully

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

That's fair. Stevens was supposed to be infinitely better in this offense though according to most of this board.

He is better but he will be infinitely better as we go through the season. He definitely is a better passer and I think he will he as good a runner as we get through the season but we won’t be running our QB nearly as much as we did last year.
08-31-2019, 12:57 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I feel better since I hit the 10 beer mark.

Good. I like this version of you. Have some rep.
08-31-2019, 12:57 PM
Lord McBuckethead

Maybe give him a solid 8 drives at game speed. He is atleadt targeting the correct guys every play. Just hasn't gotten his internal clock set and timing yet. You have to admit, those throws looked pretty. Timing will get there.
08-31-2019, 12:58 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

Quit comparing last year. Last year don't mean shit for either team. Just like Mullen used to say, it's a new team every year.

Well, that was in response to a comment saying we look more complete on offense. Context matters
08-31-2019, 12:58 PM
Westdawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

That's fair. Stevens was supposed to be infinitely better in this offense though according to most of this board.

I'm not gonna "sing his praises" but if you can't see that he is seeing the field better in this offense than Fitzgerald, then I'm not sure you understand what you're seeing. Yeah, you can tell that tommy has not gotten rid of it a couple times when he should have, but he's going through the second and third reads. The only thing I would say he's not done passing that I wish he would recognize is that Hill has been open several times and he could have simply dumped it off and gotten positive yards.
08-31-2019, 12:59 PM
dantheman4248

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

That's cool if you put us in Kentucky and OM's level, but you yourself said there's a better chance we go 12-0 than 6-6. That seems to imply we are on another level than Kentucky and om

We're the only 3 teams in our conference playing right now and we're actually winning our game looking competent. I didn't put us on their level. I gave context as to how the conference is doing on noon kickoffs in week 1.

Florida looked worse on offense than last year with the same QB too. TAMU played basically FCS level competition and took a bit to put it "out of reach".
08-31-2019, 12:59 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

Last year's ULL team was completely different.

This! ULL is a much better team game #15 under Napier than game #3
08-31-2019, 01:00 PM
Bdawg

So no Williams and Parker for second half. Ouch
08-31-2019, 01:00 PM
Cooterpoot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawg61

This! ULL is a much better team game #15 under Napier than game #3

MSU is not a much better team in game 13 of Joe Moorhead.
08-31-2019, 01:01 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

That's fair. Stevens was supposed to be infinitely better in this offense though according to most of this board.

Ok - compared it to how Fitz looked against KSU. Pretty sure that game caused a meltdown and calls for KT to start.

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