Could be the same in StarkvilleQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Could be the same in StarkvilleQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I doubt it. Having a competent defensive coordinator complimenting a competent offense with a talented, young QB is a winning recipe. OM is taking two steps back at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
Right now both us and Ole Miss go into next year with 2 guaranteed wins and 0 guaranteed losses. (You could argue they have 1 guaranteed loss). They've definitely already taken the 2 steps back and it could get ugly.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Right now we're both in similar standing with our trajectory pointed upward and theirs pointed downward and the portal will show if that to be reality.
If we flop on lines - 2-10 is possible. If they flop and lose most of their talent to the portal, 2-10 is very possible for them.
They are employing the "over pay" on everybody approach to keep everyone in with lil Petey
Talent has to have coachesQuote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
Frank Wilson seems to be heading to Oxford to be the new RB coach at OM. That takes Derrick Nix completely out of the running at OM. So it will be down to us and Bama for WR coach and also Florida for RB coach.
We are going to end up with Farmer Fran aren’t we?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Not as WR coach!! He would be a DL coach if anything. He and Orgeron have the same philosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Wow! Not having the coaching staff in place and evaluating potential portal transfers is not a good look 2 weeks before portal opens. Is State running it back without a WR coach and DL coach? Strange.
What from this season made you think Lebby would handle these coaching transitions smoothly and on time?Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
I am sure they have the evaluation under control.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Our fans think they have to in the loop or we suck. Not true at all. How do you know that we are not looking at a coach on team in a bowl game or playoffs?
You dont. What you think is you deserve to be in the know and if you are its all nothing more than bull shit
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Somehow since it is not blasted all over socials and message boards we must have incompetent coaches that are just a bunch of tards sitting around making grill cheese sandwiches and farting.
That he fired the one major leak and no one has any real information being floated because everyone else is tightlipped right now seeing Bump gone for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
If it's 1/5 and we don't have a WR/DL coach announced then panicking is fair.
Exactly. And if there is anything to panic over it's not who our WR coach is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Derek Nix Bama as the wide receiver coach. That basically confirms we will not have a higher until probably either a day before or a day after the ball game.
And hell, with this staff, we could have a hire tomorrow
Something tells me that we were never really in it with Nix.
Apparently, there wasn?t supposed to be any staff changes until after the bowl game but somehow the Bumphis firing got leaked. Did Bumphis leak that tooQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
That would be ironic.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
If he was leaking info I could certainly see Lebby saying "we just can't have you around anymore."
Bumphis might already knew and did not want to wait until after the bowl game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Maybe so. He obviously landed with UNLV pretty quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
How sweet of you to be so protective of your beloved Head Coach while he sits on the couch watching Andy Griffith reruns while nearly every SEC team including the ones in the Playoffs are filling out their staff! But of course Lebby is Sooooo much smarter than all this guys. He is waiting on High School playoffs in Texas to finish so he can go get some of their coaches, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Gosh, some of our fans are so gullible to believe our coach is waiting on playoff teams to finish so he can poach their best coaches. Guys a freaking genius!
Stroke some checks then?Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Sometimes we, and other schools for that matter, wait to hire a guy because their contract is running out at their present school.
Is this a hint?Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I don't think he's a genius for it. I think he's sticking to his way of coaching and running the ship. We're giving him this leeway for this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
I told you what date I'll have pitchforks ready.
I'd be much more inclined to believe we're constantly striking out if there was folks coming forward with credible information on who we're targeting. Most of the guys across ED, SPS, 247, etc. who usually have info have had next to none this go around. It is what it is. There's no reason beyond 1/5 to keep this information hidden even if we're hiring from one of the four teams still alive in the playoffs because at that point it would be a promotion for them from their current spot and fine to announce. So I'm waiting until then and if that Monday comes and we have massive staffing holes still then I'm probably going to be ahead of you with my pitchfork saying wtf is the plan and how are we attacking the portal.
Jesus Christ dude. Go take a walk or something. 2 weeks, nobody knew who Washington was until we found out that Lebby was after him. It only becomes a problem when others school wanted him. I guess we did not learn anything from the Arnett hiring. It is a good chance that you are not going to know anything until the hire is made which is after the bowl game.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
I love these ultimatums from fans. "Satisfy my belief that you should be doing what I say NOW! Or I'll belittle you in the internet and quit giving money I don't give anyway!"
Mullen used to wait until the January coaches conference to hire coaches. And yes, I know the portal makes things different, but when it comes to the players today NIL talks more than position coaches do.
We are also complaining about a 17 WR coach. Lebby has done most of the recruiting at that position for the last 2 years anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
I think the main issue right now is that no info is leaking out. And the answer to that is pretty simple: Bumphis was let go in part because he was leaking info to boosters, friends, podcasters, etc. The other coaches are going to keep quiet for a while now that he has been let go. It also shows you how much info Bumphis was leaking.
It's insane. Like Zac Selmon is sitting there in his office like "oh no. Our fans are mad. I'll go tell Lebby to go hire a WR coach now before this gets out of hand."Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
And then we'll hire a WR coach and everything will be fine. Until Lebby runs a play the fans don't like in the bowl game.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Some have already made up their minds about Lebby. They may turn out to be right. They may turn out to be wrong. The issue is that IF they turn out to be wrong, they'll construe it as we still did things wrong but got lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I know this much, it doesn't matter who we hire at WR coach. That is not going to make or break our program. Chad Bumphis sucked as a WR coach. His development was terrible(see Rickey Johnson, Sanfrisco Magee, JJ Harrell, Markus Allen, Cam Thompson, etc). The best receivers we had were finished products recruited by Jeff Lebby. That's the facts.
I also know that if we don't significantly increase our buy in and NIL, we will have to hire a project again if Lebby fails. Dan isn't coming. He's not. He doesn't want to come back to Starkville. He's fond of his time, but he just doesn't want to come back. G6 coaches are not going to be beating down our door to come coach a team that has very little NIL buy in, fairweather fans, and school that prioritizes a non rev sport over rev sports.
preach it
That's right. We all know this staff is tight lipped. We all know a staff member was fired for leaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Well, he's making millions and is successful at doing what he is doing. But you do you.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
are you ok lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
We agree on that for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Hold on. Where did I bitch about a WR hire? I?m talking about multiple hires. We need to replace several coaches, most importantly DL. I agree on WR coach. We can pick up the guy coaching at Choctaw County and be fine there.
How close are we to a full staff? As I asked, are we running it back with most of the 2025 guys because Lebby can?t get anybody to jump on with a possible Lame-duck?
Captain, I think the obvious point here is Lebby nor MSU is obligated to tell you anything until they choose to and that does not make them incapable or incompetent. We all have zero idea if we have our guys and are waiting for contracts to expire or for them to fulfill their obligations.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
What we DO know is that Lebby is NOT a lame duck or on the hot seat no matter how the few fans want it to be.
I wouldn't go that far. There's definitely pressure on Lebby to win win probably 7 at least next year to feel totally safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I would say at least 6 and not backing into a bowl because of APR. absolutely a winning record to keep his job next year! No more ?IF, THENS?!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
And he might have to win a bowl game next year as well, especially if it is against another 6-6 opponent from a G5.