Any thoughts on the Michael Sam Kiss on ESPN...

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Originally Posted by fishwater99

There are three kinds of laws in the Bible.

Civil laws.
These were specifically given for the culture of the Israelites, which includes everything from murder to restitution and dietary restrictions.

Ceremonial laws.
This literally stands for the customs of a nation. These would have included sacrifices of perfectly good animals, and rejection of food sources such as pork and rabbits. These laws were specific only toward the Jews.

God's moral laws.
These relate to justice and judgment. They are based on God's own holy nature.
As such, these ordinates are holy, just and unchanging.
Moral laws encompass regulations on justice, respect and sexual conduct. All people will be held accountable to these laws.

Just because someone is a Christian, and believes in the Bible, that does not make them haters, homophobics or heretics.
It just makes them a person who believes in God?s word and that Jesus came to die on the cross for our sins.

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But when they can't separate church and state and want to impose their (selective) beliefs via legislation on large segments of the population, you go from believing in god/Jesus/the bible to forcing others to live their personal lives by what you believe.

That is becauSe you probably are a good dude and you arent sinning by living with your GF

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Originally Posted by sandwolf

Hahaha

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What if the rams trade him to the packers. That would be the headline of the year...... Rams trade first openly gay player to the packers for a backloaded deal

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Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar

Well I dont really care because Im not a liberal....at all

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You've done outsmarted me again.

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Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar

Well I dont really care because Im not a liberal....at all

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I'm calling BS on this quote... I don't believe it ....at all

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Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg

You've done outsmarted me again.

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he did not outsmart you dthd, he bullshitted you.

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Originally Posted by Ralph

It saddens me too. To be clear, I have a very close relationship with Jesus; I find reading the Bible and applying the concepts and tales to what's happening in my life as a great tactic to strengthening that relationship. When I go to church, I see everyone trying to outdo everyone else.

And not to be critical to you or others that have made similar remarks, I would hesitate to encourage people to believe that going to church is the only way to achieve a relationship with God. It wasn't until I changed my approach that I finally was able to have that relationship that I was unable to achieve through church. Just how it works for me; not right or wrong.

I would also be hesitant to critique someones ability to go to heaven or be saved. Im not sure telling people that reading the Bible and following the 10 commandments won't get you to heaven. Other folks "relationship with God" may occur through ways that are unlike yours. This is a minor example of why I choose not to go to church.

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I would not say "you can't get to heaven without going to church." The act of going to church isn't what saves you. It's not tithing or giving to charity or wearing the nicest outfit or singing in the choir, either. These are merely ways some people choose to honor God- even though, as you alluded to, some people seem to do them to honor themselves, wanting people to see what "good Christians" they are.

If you have a great relationship with Jesus, that's great. But if someone expressing genuine concern for you is an example of what is wrong with church, I don't know what to tell you.

Dont really give a flip who is sleeping with whom. Don't really want to see guys kiss each other.

I don't spend much time in places where these things occur. I might go to the French Quarter in the early evening for a certain eating establishment, but not for Mardi GRAS, or anywhere else in N.O. During that time period where things get crazy. I have no desire to spend time in Amsterdam, where the Red Light District boasts whores on display. Won't be making trips to Bankok, or other international cities of ill repute.

Don't appreciate a guy in drag dressed as Ms. Santa Claus leading the Macy's Christmas Parade. (I reckon they don't have enough parades ).

I have to wonder why homosexuality is considered "natural" when these guys are walking around with Spincter Tampons up their asses to keep from staining their pants. Sorry to be crude, but I believe in speaking plainly. I'm simply not one to agree with the masses when accepting what I consider to be bad behavior. And that includes stepping out on your spouse. It's my belief that it leads to a miserable existence.

Again, don't really care if they want a legal marriage. Or if they simply want to shack up and hurt each other in the name of physical attraction. But I'll teach my children that they don't have to agree with all lifestyles. It's my right.

Shit I started reading this and there were 6 pages. I can't get to the damn end of it! Now there are 9 pages. Make that 10 before I hit post

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Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most)

Same sex relations is common in a lot of animal species. Homophobia is a very modern concept, mainly due to Christianity and Islam being the biggest two religions in the world, both of which call gay marriage a sin.

Bonobos have sex as a social tool, similar to other species of monkeys grooming each other.

In Papua New Guiana, there are some cultures where heterosexual sex is viewed about the way homosexual sex is viewed in America.

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Well, the homosexuals better be glad the heterosexuals are still there to make more babies so they can keep their culture going. Wow

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Originally Posted by Dawgcentral

I have to wonder why homosexuality is considered "natural" when these guys are walking around with Spincter Tampons up their asses to keep from staining their pants.

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Ha ha ha ha. Ugh man ugh

Some of yalls kids will start off way behind in this world.

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Originally Posted by Dawgcentral

Dont really give a flip who is sleeping with whom. Don't really want to see guys kiss each other.

I don't spend much time in places where these things occur. I might go to the French Quarter in the early evening for a certain eating establishment, but not for Mardi GRAS, or anywhere else in N.O. During that time period where things get crazy. I have no desire to spend time in Amsterdam, where the Red Light District boasts whores on display. Won't be making trips to Bankok, or other international cities of ill repute.

Don't appreciate a guy in drag dressed as Ms. Santa Claus leading the Macy's Christmas Parade. (I reckon they don't have enough parades ).

I have to wonder why homosexuality is considered "natural" when these guys are walking around with Spincter Tampons up their asses to keep from staining their pants. Sorry to be crude, but I believe in speaking plainly. I'm simply not one to agree with the masses when accepting what I consider to be bad behavior. And that includes stepping out on your spouse. It's my belief that it leads to a miserable existence.

Again, don't really care if they want a legal marriage. Or if they simply want to shack up and hurt each other in the name of physical attraction. But I'll teach my children that they don't have to agree with all lifestyles. It's my right.

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Yeah, that always seems to be the case when you're made into a second-class citizen.

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Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most)

Same sex relations is common in a lot of animal species. Homophobia is a very modern concept, mainly due to Christianity and Islam being the biggest two religions in the world, both of which call gay marriage a sin.

Bonobos have sex as a social tool, similar to other species of monkeys grooming each other.

In Papua New Guiana, there are some cultures where heterosexual sex is viewed about the way homosexual sex is viewed in America.

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I quit reading this because this argument only goes one way every time...but i did pick back up on this page for some reason and this post is absolutely wrong.

Animals don't have homosexual sex...they do "hump" other animals both male and female to show dominance.

It is quite telling that the side that wants to agree with absolute science in every single other aspect to disprove some religious beliefs now wants to go completely against science to disprove those same religious beliefs.

Regarding Beardo's claim of discrimination against Christians is "mythical".

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Yes, I'd like to see some credible sources of these happenings as well.

I see and hear Bible verses quoted in school speeches all the freakin' time, dude; so again, no dice.

As for the Air Force dude. If that actually happened, I suppose it would have to depend on exactly what verse the cadet chose to display.

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Okay, I got in from work so here are some sources. I don't know what you consider "credible" but you can look it up. Google isn't hard. BTW, because you see Bible verses around you say "no dice" to censorship of the Bible. Wow, the logical flaws in that statement are stunning.

So know I will await your sources of censorship "cases are there where Muslims, Buddhists" in US schools that you claim.

Local CBS Miami coverage of teacher banning a Bible being read in a student?s free time.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/05/05...rotest-change/
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School Superintendent orders wrestling team not to wear T-shirts (not a part of the uniform and paid for by parents) because the T-shirt read on the back ?I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.?
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes...ble-verse.html
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Here is a column about the Air Force Academy with commentary that this is not the first such action by the Air Force Academy.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/chuck-n...erty-yet-again
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Official placed on unpaid administrative leave due to comments away from his job and unrelated to his duties.
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-p...502-story.html
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Des Moines Register on May 7 reported that Bob Eschiliman was fired as editor of the Newton Daily News for referring to homosexual activists as ?Gaystapo.?

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Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most)

Same sex relations is common in a lot of animal species. Homophobia is a very modern concept, mainly due to Christianity and Islam being the biggest two religions in the world, both of which call gay marriage a sin.

Bonobos have sex as a social tool, similar to other species of monkeys grooming each other.

In Papua New Guiana, there are some cultures where heterosexual sex is viewed about the way homosexual sex is viewed in America.

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If this is the case in Papua new Guiana, then this culture won't be around very long.

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

I quit reading this because this argument only goes one way every time...but i did pick back up on this page for some reason and this post is absolutely wrong.

Animals don't have homosexual sex...they do "hump" other animals both male and female to show dominance.

It is quite telling that the side that wants to agree with absolute science in every single other aspect to disprove some religious beliefs now wants to go completely against science to disprove those same religious beliefs.

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Is your definition of "sex" contingent on procreation? Because, if so, there are lots of hetero couples who just "hump".

And you're absolutely wrong with homosexual tendencies in animals, especially the Bonobos. Yes dominance is a factor with some species, but for many, it's much more.

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Originally Posted by dawgs

But when they can't separate church and state and want to impose their (selective) beliefs via legislation on large segments of the population, you go from believing in god/Jesus/the bible to forcing others to live their personal lives by what you believe.

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Excuse me, but the legal process is all about forcing what you can and cannot do. The idea of "you can't legislate morality" is nonsense. Legislating morality is the function of many laws.

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Originally Posted by M.Fillmore

Regarding Beardo's claim of discrimination against Christians is "mythical".



Okay, I got in from work so here are some sources. I don't know what you consider "credible" but you can look it up. Google isn't hard. BTW, because you see Bible verses around you say "no dice" to censorship of the Bible. Wow, the logical flaws in that statement are stunning.

So know I will await your sources of censorship "cases are there where Muslims, Buddhists" in US schools that you claim.

Local CBS Miami coverage of teacher banning a Bible being read in a student?s free time.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/05/05...rotest-change/
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School Superintendent orders wrestling team not to wear T-shirts (not a part of the uniform and paid for by parents) because the T-shirt read on the back ?I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.?
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes...ble-verse.html
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Here is a column about the Air Force Academy with commentary that this is not the first such action by the Air Force Academy.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/chuck-n...erty-yet-again
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Official placed on unpaid administrative leave due to comments away from his job and unrelated to his duties.
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-p...502-story.html
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Des Moines Register on May 7 reported that Bob Eschiliman was fired as editor of the Newton Daily News for referring to homosexual activists as ?Gaystapo.?

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It will be amusing to see how the libs will spin each story.

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Originally Posted by DawgSaint

It will be amusing to see how the libs will spin each story.

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Perhaps, but I'm not going to hang around and find out. I'll have a late supper and get back to work. It's a busy time of year.