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I'm pro-Rick Ray in the sense that I'm going to support him because he is our basketball coach and I want him to do well. I don't see how that makes me a 'Ray lover' or someone who will defend him against all logic. I'm still in 'wait and see' mode on whether or not I think he'll work out long-term, but I'm going to fully support him until I decide he won't get it done.Quote:
Originally Posted by quickstrike2
I wish our entire fanbase was pro-Rick Ray.
I see a lot of people who like Houston, and I hope he's good obviously, but I think Ndoye and Black have the chance to be better than Houston.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
That's somewhat ridiculous. Ndoye didn't earn his starting position until mid-way thru his senior year of high school. He can rest Ware and grab a few boards, but I don't expect much production. I have hopes for Black since apparently he improved at IMG, but he was extremely raw in high school. His single digit scoring average has been well documented. Houston, on the other hand, is first team All-State and has performed well in summer circuits. The problem with Houston is that he doesn't address our most dire need which is someone who can knock down an outside shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
I'll back Engie up with Published numbers for the SEC network then.
ATT and Dish network have set the monthly rate for carriage fees on the SECNetwork. They have also set the package level for the Network (equal to ESPN2's distribution, ~97 Million households)
Doing the math on that ~30 million households in the SEC footprint * $1.3 = $39,000,000 per month for the SEC region
~ 67 million households for the rest of the US *$.25 = $16,750,000 per month
Total revenue = $55,750,000 per month = $669,000,000 per year
Asumme the SEC only gets 50% and each school gets a equal split, that's $23,900,000 extra per school. That's in year 1, assuming ESPN and the SEC are 50/50 partners. I'm betting its more 75/25 for the league. that moves the number in year 1 to $35,000,000.
Add that ($35MM) to the numbers published above ($62) and you get to $100MM pretty fast (actually $97MM).
On the #1 ranked team in the countryQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Smoot , face it you were a Croom lover and you are a Ray lover. I didn't have to wait and see on Croom and Ray Charles could see that Ray ain't going to get it done.I'm going to support MSU basketball. Ray not so muchQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
This is getting comical. I have seen literally no one say that Ray is clearly going to succeed (unlike you and many others who have stated that he is clearly going to fail); nothing more than a "wait and see" approach and expression of support for the program. Yet you and others keep hammering this idea that anyone who hasn't already denounced him as a failure is a "Ray lover." It's absolutely absurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
I definitely did support Croom for too long. I was wrong on that. I don't think that has anything to do with Ray...in fact, I learned a lesson from that and won't support a coach for so long again if the writing is clearly on the wall. After 2 years of what Ray inherited, I just don't think the writing is on the wall yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
This is an area where I think we're just all entitled to our own opinions until we see any of them in college. Ndoye eventually ended up starting for the top HS team in the country - you see it as a negative, I see it as a positive. I don't think Houston would have started for that Findlay Prep team.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
And I think the documentation of Black's single-digit scoring average was just wrong. I thought it had been established that Dawg61 was dead wrong and that he averaged double digits last year and is doing so again this year. Regardless, I like the potential I see from him in his recent highlights. He has more offensive skill than I thought and will definitely be able to rebound like crazy and should defend well.
My reservation with Houston is his shooting. I don't know that it's bad, I just don't know if it's good, either. I think he can be a productive college player even without a good mid- to long-range shot, but I think both Black and Ndoye have the potential to be very good post guys for us.
Can't afford to pay that when you don't buy tickets because you are still butthurt over Stains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Um who you calling a bottom feeder program bud? This is your new idea to buy Ray more time huh. MSU is the 4th winningest SEC program in basketball for the last TWENTY YEARS. We are Tennessee in basketball. They are just above us in wins at number 3 but leaving us in the dust after these last two years. Guess how many Final Fours Tennessee has been to in their ENTIRE HISTORY of basketball? A big fat ZERO. Quit trying to lower the expectations we as a MSU fanbase had when we all called for Stansbury's head. I WILL NOT let you and your buds continue to pull down expectations at MSU to fit Stricklin's budget. Y'all are just being SELFISH because you want all the money to go into the new baseball stadium. MSU basketball CAN NOT be placed #3 in the pecking order. It must be treated as an equal #1. Those are the rules. The competition forces it to be that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
A-****ING-MEN!!! +100000000000000000000Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
We have 2 NCAA's the last 9 years...spare me our greatnessQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
And we fired Stansbury because of it. We had high expectations. If Stansbury makes the NCAA just one more time we look past the rest of the BS and he keeps his job. You know it. I know it. That's expectations. Y'all can go ahead and quit trying to pull them down to fit Stricklin's cheap wallet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I would think 3 years is a minimum for any coaching job, unless there is monumental failure off the field/court.
I personally think calling Ray a failure at this point is asinine. Is he better than Stans? That, my friend, is a different debate. But we still don't know the final answer.
But he couldn't... With a 4 year starter at PG, 2 NBA first round draft picks, and the #1 high school player in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
NCAA appearances the last 10 years:
Florida- 8
Kentucky- 8
Tenn- 7
Vandy- 5
LSU- 3 (2 SEC titles)
State-3
Alabama-3
UPig- 3
Georgia- 2
Ol Miss- 1
Auburn-0
SC- 0
We're in a 4-way tie for 5th...but LSU's 2 Regular season titles trump us the last 10 years....that's the last decade
Stands got fired because of off the court issues- not for losingQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
And I was second in line in the "Fire Stansbury" one. Glad he's gone. Just didn't expect our AD to go super cheap and put basketball at the bottom of the things to do list.Quote:
Originally Posted by C222
WRONG! If he goes to the NCAA just once more he's still the coach. You know it. Quit acting like you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34