Any DC Rumors?

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Originally Posted by confucius say

How'd he destroy the program as a DC? Often times our defense was our strength when he was DC.

We have to get players. Thats really all that matters. And that is the case regardless of what DC we hire. There are 100 people who can do the job if we get players.

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He has proven that he can't get the players. His recruiting is the biggest reason why the talent on defense was so bad in 2024.

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

I can't keep up with the damn rules anymore. Is our money used for coaching the able to be used for NIL or do those have to be kept separate? If we saved $2M by going with Arnett then whatever. $2M more on the DL + Arnett probably better than $0 more on the DL and a hot candidate DC

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Yes. The money we save on staff can go to players.
The rev share money is all in house.

The NIL from the bulldog initiative is not in house.

Let's bring Joe Moorhead back as offensive coordinator while we are at it.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Let's bring Joe Moorhead back as offensive coordinator while we are at it.

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No! Les Koenning! He fits MSU's culture and is blue collar.

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Originally Posted by KB21

The guy destroyed the program, and we are bringing him back.

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Wait?..the guy was not ready to be a HC. It was not his fault that WE hired him. His defenses under Leach didn?t destroy our program. You have be somewhat rational. It?s frustrating, bc we were expecting other candidates to step forward.

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Originally Posted by Thick

Wait?..the guy was not ready to be a HC. It was not his fault that WE hired him. His defenses under Leach didn?t destroy our program. You have be somewhat rational. It?s frustrating, bc we were expecting other candidates to step forward.

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If he destroyed it he sure as hell had a lot of help.

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Originally Posted by Thick

Wait?..the guy was not ready to be a HC. It was not his fault that WE hired him. His defenses under Leach didn?t destroy our program. You have be somewhat rational. It?s frustrating, bc we were expecting other candidates to step forward.

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He could have said no he didn't want to be the head coach. Would have been better for all involved.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

If he destroyed it he sure as hell had a lot of help.

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And this opens the door for those people to be back in the fold.

This is gonna be brutal for a while. KB and Todd are gonna destroy all threads like they did during the short Arnette/Barbay era.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

This is gonna be brutal for a while. KB and Todd are gonna destroy all threads like they did during the short Arnette/Barbay era.

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Were we wrong?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And this opens the door for those people to be back in the fold.

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U’m no. You are badly mistaken about this. They are done.

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Originally Posted by KB21

Let's bring Joe Moorhead back as offensive coordinator while we are at it.

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Why? He sucked as an OC

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And this opens the door for those people to be back in the fold.

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No, that's not going to happen.

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Originally Posted by KB21

He has proven that he can't get the players. His recruiting is the biggest reason why the talent on defense was so bad in 2024.

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Our recruiting problems were a leach program problem. It wasn't just our defense in 2024. It was the entire roster. Look at our classes from 2020 to 2023 and see who was left on the roster in 2024.

We have to commit to player acquisition as a program. We are working back towards it.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

And this opens the door for those people to be back in the fold.

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Who are "those people" you are worried about being back in the fold?

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Who are "those people" you are worried about being back in the fold?

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Out or dead now.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

No, that's not going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

U’m no. You are badly mistaken about this. They are done.

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Thank God.

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

^This. Players or no, I don't think many of y'all realize how bad Huntzler was. I remember the day that we hired him. I was around a Bama fan and a Reb fan. I told them I hope I'm wrong, but this is not good and will not end well. You don't hire a DC in the SEC that has never called or ran his own defense. Horrible, awful hire Huntzler was.

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The day the Hutzler hire was made I pretty much knew Lebby was not ready to be a HC in the SEC. Just an awful hire from the get go.

And while Im not wild about bringing ZA back, as a DC, he is light years ahead of Hutzler.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Were we wrong?

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No you were not wrong. But that's not the point I was making and you know it. The board was unreadable during that time.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

No you were not wrong. But that's not the point I was making and you know it. The board was unreadable during that time.

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This situation was completely 100% avoidable. And I have every right to vent about it as anyone else does as long as I am within the rules of the board.