I find myself moving farther and farther to pro sports
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I find myself moving farther and farther to pro sports
And auburnQuote:
Originally Posted by 38843dawg
and this is why I harp that everything changed in 2022. We wont win battles against SEC Big Dawgs
Barring a furniture miracle- he gone
I find myself moving closer and closer to the Club Sports. We have no shot in Football, a 5% shot in Men's Basketball, a 25% shot in Women's Basketball, Softball and Golf, a 40% shot in Baseball, and a 50% shot at Men's Tennis!Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
While the majority of the country doesn't give a rats patuty about baseball, put your emphasis on it and women's sports, where NIL is not quite as detrimental!
Say What?Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Been saying basically the same thing to the MSU fans that think we should throw all of our money into football and MBB. We are fighting a losing battle in those 2 sports no matter what we do until some NIL/portal rules are changed. Baseball is the only mens sport left that fans care about where we still have a chance to compete at a high level.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Yet we are closer to the middle of the SEC (from below) than the top of the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
And I'm not saying throw our money at those sports. While there are a few "me", "me" "me" prima donas in those minor sports, it is primarily the football and basketball programs that have the guys who say " what ya gonna pay me? Cause I think I'm worth this much and I'll go over there if they will pay me more than you will while also offering me a better chance to win cause you ain't overbuying the players to make us a winner and I ain't playing for nobody who ain't spending all their money to win"!
We can spend the university into oblivion and still be in the bottom 6 in those sports! So spend proportionately based on where you have the better chance at success! Football is still going to get more because it cost more to finish dead last there then it does to finish in the Top 6 in the minor sports.
We had a pretty decent basketball team this year but where did they finish? In the middle of the SEC and made the top 68 but we're not one of the Top 48 teams this year. You can spend less there and get the same results as the past 3 years because you only have a 13 person roster with a 25 person traveling entourage.
Baseball is about to be strained with a 34 person full scholarship roster who also get NIL. Same with Softball. Football going to 105 scholarships is stupid! Just means the top programs will have 2 sets of starters while the lesser programs like State will have guys on the roster with a scholarship thst will never see game action. That's silly! And stupid!
Right on!!Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
I can see it now in about 3 years.
Alabama A team schedules to play Georgia A team, while Alabama B team schedules to play Mississippi State A team and Georgia B team schedules to play Vandy A team!
NIL sucks but just a reminder of what sports fans care about:
Football Championship - 23 million viewers
Basketball Championship - 18 million viewers
Baseball Championship - 3 million viewers
If you want to matter, you have to figure out how to be competitive in football or men's basketball (or some combo of both). I'm not talking about winning it all, I just mean be good with some occasional really good years.
We could win the natty in baseball, golf, tennis and soccer every year and it will not matter if we want to be relevant. That's just real talk even though it's a hard one to solve.
It?s been mentioned a couple of times and once by 34. Where does baseball stand with Selmon? From a business standpoint, I get it if baseball is 3rd in priority and less resources goes into baseball. I guess my question is that ? Will the boosters allow taking resources away from baseball and add those resources to football and basketball?Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
I don't understand why some of you are saying we will never win in Mens basketball with NIL. To be honest that's one of the easier sports that can be rebuilt in a season. Football is by far the hardest and we are just too far behind the curveball to win at a high level consistently. Basketball can be rebuilt in an off season. Look at Florida for example who just won't the National Championship, they have 5 transfers in and 4 of them contributed heavily in their run. Their top 3 scorers transferred in.
Supposedly we got some NIL money for basketball, if that's the case why can't we rebuild in a season and be competitive? I hate these new rules as much as most of you do but until changes are made we have to adapt like everyone else.
Historically we (and most teams) have gotten good through good rebuilding / building.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
It feels weird to be in the reload era, but until we make these real multi-year contracts - it's reality.
In our NCAA tournament game we had the following scoring output:
2025
Hubbard - 26
Transfers - 32
Murphy - 10
Matthews - 2
Jones - 2
Just surround Hubbard with a team of 4 3&D guards/wings, a 7' rim protector, a post "bucket", and a true point. That 9 man rotation is what you need. If we just hit our ****ing open 3s man.
Let's see what we round out the team. Got 2 spots filled. Jones / Warren need to step up to be able to fill one of those roles. Murphy ain't gone for sure but his money will be costly. He has to take another big leap to be worth it. I think he does personally, but not sure we agree for that price point.
The thing is tho- just to get a guy like Murphy costs you a million or more in the portal now. That kind of market is out of our pocketbook. We are trying to keep up with Del Frisco's and Peter Luger when we are Shapley's.
I honestly don't know the answer to that question (what Selmon thinks about Baseball) but from everything I've seen revenue sharing will be broken down like:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Football - 75%
Men's Basketball - 15%
All other sports, including baseball, will share the last 10%
I think that's a pretty standard breakdown at every school, but I've seen some closer to 85% for football (Georgia for example).
Agreed on all points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Quincy Ballard=DAWG
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I don't claim to be an insider, but I know for a fact we didn't lose Murphy because of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
He's shopping himself out there to see what he can get, but we are prepared to pay him.