down 21-10 to Liberty in the 3rd
Let's all watch this mastermind craft a comeback win with his AR knowledge
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down 21-10 to Liberty in the 3rd
Let's all watch this mastermind craft a comeback win with his AR knowledge
They scored more than 7 points, and in the first half. Already better than what I saw this past Saturday in Arkansas.
This might not be the best week to be poking at other offenses.
They play little schools- not top flight college programs. 10 points headed to the end of the 3rd Q
We would roll on Liberty
Its like coaching HS vs Middle School
In this matchup tonight, Liberty QB is a transfer from TN, and WKY QB is a Div 2 transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
They had a WR open at the end of the first half , on 2 different drives.
Play calling was fine, but the Jimmy and Joes wasn't there.
We only beat Western Michigan by a few points. Not so sure we would roll many teams right now.
Speaking of HS v. Middle School, where did our OC come from? He only had one year as App State OC at that. Just curious if he was a high school league prodigy to get to jump directly to the SEC.
Our OC is from Central Michigan as OC for a year, and App State as OC for a year. But he jumped directly to the SEC as an OC.
Drew is still having the same problems as Arbuckle has had this season and Leach had last year. Second half, 2 drives, 2 punts.
WKU has the same QB as last year and their top WR from last who had over 100 catches. They have regressed from last season a good bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
the QB is Div 2 transfer. They have lost some talent in recent years. How many transfers do they have? 50?Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Hugh got Liberty some good transfers and players for Chadwell this year
and BarbayQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Their QB is the same one from last year who was 33rd nationally in QB rating and 77th this season. It's the play calling this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Yeah but y'all continuously tell us about how much better the AR is vs all other schemes. Now it's on par with Barbay with that post?Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
He still is a Div 2 QB from Western Floriday. Just saying there tends to be a quick trigger to point at the offensive system, but not at the talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
They have had much better QBs before, as far as overall talent level.
Right now, Croom is on par with BarbayQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
They were 7th nationally last season in total offense. They're 75th this season. Same qb both yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
now do MSUQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
When it's the same QB as last year at WKU where it's only the OC that's changed, then it's a moot point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
62nd last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
94th this season
ETA... I guess if you using same criteria as WKU (returning qb), you'd throw last week out.... that would put us at 375.5 ypg vs 392.9 ypg last season
Drew will be a good play caller but he is far too green to be a play caller at WKU, much less the P5 level and much much less the SEC level. And this is coming from someone who thinks very highly of Drew. He has to get away from the pure air raid of Leach to be really successful. There is a reason only Leach was running it, it was because only he knew how to truly use it. There is a reason some, including myself, said that the pure Air Raid died with Leach.
Moving the goalpost from what you posted. The biggest regression for this season happened from 1 game without our starting QB. It's was close to last season before the Ark game. Most likely will end lower than last season. Still a good bit to go to bottom out at Croom levelQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Looks like we've sucked for two year's straight. Might be the talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I agree 100%. I've said many times I really like Drew but he wasn't ready yet for this level. He will get there I believe though.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Can't argue that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
I would love to have Jamey Chadwell as our coach. Whoever draws Liberty in the NY6 bowl will probably lose
29 points is a solid effort.
Arbuckle is much better than Hollinghead. Very talented play caller.
Air Force is probably getting the G5 autobid over Liberty.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
As they should if they go undefeated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
A DII QB who led West Florida to the Natty and threw for over 4000 yards and 40 TDs doing it. I watched him knock off undefeated and defending National Champ Valdosta State in the first round of the 2019 playoffs. The guy threw for over 4700 yards last season. He's legit a G5 talent at worst. Could probably beat out either QB at Auburn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Meh. WK had 484 yards of offense and 29 points against an 8-0 team that is much better than them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
They didn't quit but it was 35-16 with about 8 min left in the 4th. Hit a nice 1 big play TD in the fourth. They are just regressed from the last few years. Drew will get there eventually but he needs evolve his play calling.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Liberty defense gave up 35 to Middle TN St who is a middle of the conference offense last week. Teams may have figured a little something out. Liberty should win out though.
Keep toting that water, Errrr Raid boyQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Agree also. Not really sure why the OP starts this picking on Drew. For me, I like to follow any younger up and coming coach that leaves MSU. But for Drew it is more that he was under Leach, and with Mike Leach passing away so suddenly, it just adds more to follow the last coaches under a legendary coach. Most all coaches under Leach have become good college HC's to a degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Such a lazy post man.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
I just don't get the throwing rocks when our offense this year is in the 90's nationally.
And the "second string QB" does not fly , because last week we read on here Coach34 saying now just watch how good our offense looks with Wright.
It has nothing with Drew at all. KB and Black Sails kept pushing for months about how Drew should have been promoted here. It was hotly debated because several of us, as much as we liked Drew, knew he wasn't ready. But they just spammed the board constantly with rude and narcissistic posts about Drew should have just been promoted. One poster did the same with Miller who would have been a worse choice than Drew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
I?ll be interested to see how much of our ?offensive talent? hits the portal the weekend after Thanksgiving .Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
I hear you there. So the OP by Coach is a passive aggressive type post :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I wish we had kept Drew in some sort of promotion in title only, just to groom him more, but glad he is getting out there and getting this experience. I do hope for the best for the guys that were the last of Coach Leach, and that it happened at MSU.
Lol. More of he wants to run their nose in it post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Well there was no way to keep him, he had a legitimate OC offer. No way he turns that down for just a title here.
He figured out some of his 2nd half woes tonight maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
They had 2 chances end of first half though to put at least 10 points on the board. Missed a TD by inches, and then missed FG right after that...then threw an interception on the next drive.
Meh- Liberty gave up 35 points and 430 yards to Middle Tennessee's 94th ranked offense last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
We gave up 28 and 413 to Western Michigan's 75th ranked offense (Middle Tennessee is 69th in the country, not 94th)Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We are 92nd in the country.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/...ent/team/21/p2
Scoring offense. MTSU is 94th in scoring. Coach always references scoring.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
No part of this thread had anything to do with our team or our season. Irrelevant to the thread.
Except Coach posting a thread about other team's offenses just looks petty when we really suck on offense this year . We had to read the posts the past few years about it, but now we suck and it is nothing but spin. There is relevance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?