BUT let's discuss the real and more serious problem....Keenum. We desperately need new leadership at the top. Logistically how does this happen? Who makes this decision? How can we push this?
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BUT let's discuss the real and more serious problem....Keenum. We desperately need new leadership at the top. Logistically how does this happen? Who makes this decision? How can we push this?
It won't happen because him staying president is not tied to the football coach. Many like him running the university from the academic and financial side.
You want to get rid of the most influential college president in college football?
Arnett needs a PR 101 crash course fast. Aside from on field issues, Two f bombs in postgame in a 3 week period is a bad look. As is his bumbling press conference response. Looks lost
Fire the president of the university because the football team sucks? Hell yeah, that's like firing the US president because the US soccer team sucks. Who knew that's all we had to do to get rid of him?
The videos of him on the sideline is very telling. He's talking to himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I like CZA but last night's press conference was painful to watch. He desperately needs to win Sat to be 3-3 for the bye week, which we should.
I think he's uncomfortable.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I think he's second guessing himself.
I think he's unsure of himself.
Drop your balls and be a leader. Enough with the fake and transparent "I messed up and have to coach better" response every week. Just tell the truth. Take accountability for coaching issues but also place blame where it needs to be.
He'd be a lot better off just saying what we all see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
We have alot of injuries on the DL.
Coaches have to coach better yes, but players have to play better. Saying he should have just taken a knee on the last drive of the half because we turned it over is stupid. We did right. You have to try to score there. Just say we can't throw it right to the other team there and Will has to play better.
No fire the president bc the university as a whole sucks. We need new blood. We've fallen under his leadership in just about every category.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
We must fire ourselves before we can fire others. It's the only way.
I agree, there is falling on your sword for the betterment of the team but sometimes you have to be public about the players not performing. Saban didn't mince words last night, it's not about shifting blame and throwing the players under the bus all the time, but sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade. And I agree with them trying to get points before the half, we had time to try and get points. Not to mention how many on here criticized previous coaches for not trying in those situations and then some acting like it was stupid idea last night...we were down, you compete.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
The most influential person in college football hired Zach Arnett? Hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I said most influential college President, not person. He's the 5th most influential person though. He's the chair of the CFP. Don't take my word for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bark
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.co...fluential.aspx
I'm well aware of his involvement in the CFP. Maybe that's why the university academics are where they are. He apparently has a hard time doing both. I'm pissed he hired Arnett without a search but that's the least of his problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Since you're a fan of him can you give me a few reasons he's been a good president?
Keenum is just a politician
^^^^^This^^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Keenum is a government bureaucrat where being an underachiever is accepted.
I didn't say I was a fan of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bark
But If your reason for wanting him gone is related to college football, that'd be a mistake imo. He won't even be making the next hire, and you'd lose the most influential college president in college football.
He dropped the f bomb publicly again???Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Yes. In the postgame presser last night. The unedited version below shows it about 2:40 in. The version on the hail state website edited it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aHv9wP8ywvc
I think I heard fumble ... not the F bomb. Either way ... I think folks are making too big a deal out of this. Even moreso since his generation uses the word much more openly than our generation did. Hell ... everyone uses it all the time these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Yep. Dude is a schmuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
You've got to wonder if he has some clause in his contract that may come into play with the F bombs, like unprofessional behavior, etc. It certainly is a terrible look for him and the University, really unprofessional and low class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
I screamed 17 all night watching that game. I'm ready to be fired as a fan.
Hahaha! I understand completely! I have too as a fan. Completely in your rights. But when you're the front man of a multi million dollar business, it's unacceptable and shows weakness and guarantees a lack of respect. He can get caught on the sidelines cursing players and coaches because it's not his fault that they show that. But when he stands in front of the camera knowing that "investors" and thousands of people including children are listening, he's a moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Yep. At 3:12 he says it. I just watched it. Thanks for the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Arnett just needs to go be a DC somewhere....which is exactly what will happen at the end of 2024.
I could care less about what he says in interviews....
He said the F bomb. Again. That's why the version on hail state edited it out. It wouldn't do that if he said fumble.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
And other coaches aren't dropping it consistently in their post game interviews and pressers. It's a bad look as the front man of our program. He needs to grow up.
While I definitely didn?t like the fact that he completely changed the offense, I?m not ready to just up and say Zach can?t handle this. Mike Leach saw something there that made him believe that the program would be in good hands under Zach.
We were all fooled in thinking that this was our up year roster due to all the seniors on it. There is a reason many of those guys are 6th year guys. We have gotten little to no impact from the 21 and 22 recruiting classes. That?s just the facts.
Fact is, we are in a situation where I?m not sure any coach that isn?t Mike Leach would have had success in.
We are also getting our butts kicked in Mississippi HS crootin as well.
I finally heard it. He said it really mostly under his breath, that's why it was so hard for me to hear it. It's a big nothing burger IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
In leadership circles, it's a huge something burger. Glad you don't care though.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
I care about results ... and those do suck now. Saban uses F bomb all the time. Maybe not with media but he uses it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Not sure I'd trust Mike Leach's opinion on the program being in good shape in Arnett's hands, since Mike Leach didn't give a f--k.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Some still making up shit about Mike Leach I see.
Almost everyone uses it. Leaders don't use it when they are representing the company they work for. I use it sometimes at work in a closed door situation. I would never use it while speaking publicly or addressing my team in a public forum. It's horrible weakness. The dude is in way over his head. And he knows it. The stress is kicking his butt.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Saban, Smart, etc.... do not use it when speaking as the representative of their schools. They chew their players asses out and it gets caught on camera.
He looks physically like like he is overwhelmed. That's what worries me. The leadership piece seems to be missing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
And who recruited those classes????? Uh huh.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I agree. Most people aren't cut out for that situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
He's totally lost on the sideline. I wouldn't be too surprised if he could be talked into stepping down at the end of the season. He's in way over his head. Peterson giving him shit advice isn't helping him either.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Peterson getting it from C34 ****Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame