Breaks record. Half the Regionals are at SEC schools
Candy
Fla
SC
Kentucky
UPig
LSU
Bama
Auburn
Only 4 Regionals are not SEC/ACC
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Breaks record. Half the Regionals are at SEC schools
Candy
Fla
SC
Kentucky
UPig
LSU
Bama
Auburn
Only 4 Regionals are not SEC/ACC
where is the one in Starkville? Oh yeah lemondick still here same story next year.
Bunko missed the NCAA Tourney after winning a Natty- with a solid team returning- and he is one of the SEC's best coaches in history. It happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
SEC baseball is the toughest job in all of team sports. Even tougher than football. We're mad about this season and we were 4 games away from making the NCAA's. 4 short in a 53 game schedule. Says alot
And here is where I remind you that works both ways. We were 4 losses from being 23-30 (5-25 in the SEC). Not to mention the (3) 1 run non-con wins that could have also gone the other way. Enjoy your BBQ?s this summer at Lemonis home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Let's not forget we lost 3 pretty sure OOC wins to weather as well. Were 3-3 OOC vs P5Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
I'm gonna make sure Lemon knows how to properly cook a pork butt on the smoker
Yawn. Did Bunko take over a powerhouse and wreck it? Did Bunko own multiple school record losing streaks? Idk why you wanna die on this hill but I hope you?re right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Seems strange to me, though, that very rarely do any of the other teams listed above backslide as badly as we've done the last two years. Vandy, UPig, LSU, Uf - name your team. None of them have gone from the big house to the out house on the scale or in as dramatic fashion as we have over two seasons. It just hasn't happened. Consistency has been the trademark of the top tier SEC programs. We have a coach who's never had to coach to that level because he's never been anywhere that has that level of expectation. Hence, he doesn't know how to coach to that standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Arkansas had a bad year in 2016 will be the response. Dont think it applies much but its comingQuote:
Originally Posted by schddog72
Bottom line had we signed Skeens, we'd be hosting.
Maybe we asked him to catch pitch hit and play 3B. Bc that was all a disasterQuote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Eight hosting and we're nowhere to be found. Btw.....we're mad about 2 straight shit years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
It turns my stomach not to see State on that list. It's unnatural.
I feel no guilt over being pissed. Lemonis has done a shit job the last 2 years. That?s facts. I?m fine if he hit fired I?m fine that he didn?t. He clearly has ability in certain areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgface
Tulane qualified with a 19-40 record.
Looks like Ball State will be in a Regional. Dohm should have stayed.
Notre Dame probably not. Oklahoma probably not. Arizona State maybe not.
Lemonis old team Indiana is in. Oh, and Ledbetter?s old team probably is in.
C34 going to bat for an underperforming HC. You owe leach an apology
If bianco misses Hoover a 2nd year in a row he'll be firedQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
But he won't, because he's an actual decent coach, and decent coaches fix their teams flaws.
Thats kind of the point... Lemonis missed Hoover and did... what exactly to improve the team?
They were closer to getting 4 more run-rules than 4 more SEC wins. MSU hasn't had seasons this bad back-to-back since the Polk 2.0 disaster. Bucket is only around because his contract is too big to flush just yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Those 4 wins had to be quality SEC wins. Beating VMI, ULM, Arizona St, and Ohio State were not going to save a 9-21 SEC team.
If you pay Cam Newton, instead of just snitching, you win a football title.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
If you just beat shitty Syracuse, you probably beat the brakes off Kentucky in 96.
In baseball, you don't need a 1.2M coach. Get Nick M with Tommy White and Skenes well paid, you have enough team for a title.
Pretty sure he had a lobotomy on his sabbaticalQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Too big a contract and Zac played his new guy safe move, which was no move. Everybody wants to be a beast until it's time to do what beasts do.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Bianco should have sent Lane Forsythe a check in 2022. If we hadn?t pitched Forsythe in Governors cup, Ole Miss would have missed the NCAA tournament and Bianco would have been fired.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Well, that was probably something foxhall talked Lemo into doing.***********
Bang bang. Leach was never, ever, this bad. And never would have beenQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And unless State gets more money into NIL, that will be the standard. State baseball will be having the same results in SEC baseball going forward as they have had in football. State had better records in the past when the big boys were not that interested in BaseballQuote:
Originally Posted by MagicDawg
Correct, half the conference is hosting and we were FOUR games away from even making the Tournament. So not close.
It's very oddQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It makes me want Lemonis fired even more. Sickening.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicDawg
And next year we'll finish 9th or 10th in the SEC because, let's face it, even an orangutan can't finish last or next to last three years running. Then we'll hear about how we've improved and we were only two wins away from being somebody.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Selmon will have a decision looming by mid april of 24
I know nothing about the portal, NIL or our finances (I do the $10/month contribution), but I'm assuming whoever runs the collectives at the Barn, OM and LSU is willing to roll around in the mud and play dirty, I don't think Charlie Winfield is that type guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
Don't think there are any rules anymore. Well, except maybe unwritten ones: don't draw any attention and keep everything close to the vest. He who has the most money wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
I don't think we have the money to "play dirty" even if we wanted too. Our NIL is going g to keeping studs like Tolu from leaving and getting veterans back for a final year (Bookie Watson, Hancock)
There is no money left for HS or portal guys. At least, bit enough to outbid a competitor. "Why is our football recruiting so bad?? The top MS guys are going to Arky and OM!" Yeah well, their boosters are contributing enough to offer NIL. So top DL are going to OM instead of the school that puts DL in the league. It's not that complicated
It?s hard to make such drastic moves in a non revenue sport. We won a natty two years ago and baseball is not a big enough deal to fire a coach 2 years after winning a natty.
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Originally Posted by YazooDawg23
1. I dont believe we aren?t a producing profit in baseball. I imagine currently there is interest expense being charged for the new stadium. LSU makes money in baseball we put as many in as they do. When that debt is paid down we will be substantially profitable.
2. At the end of the day, who gives a 17 about profit, baseball is our only chance at natty?s. And I don?t believe winning in baseball at a very high level hurts the school in anyway. In fact, I question why we don?t maximize it more. If we were good or had any chance games would have even more fans there.
3. It is absolutely pathetic that we aren?t hosting this year. Im fine giving Lemonis another year, but would?ve been happy with firing him. My gut says we should?ve fired him. He?s a really good manager but looks clueless at evaluation.
It?s pretty simple and I don?t see why people don?t get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
He won a Natty
2022- we had arms blow up and eliminated any chance of a good season. So to me- 2022 didn?t even count.
2023- really poor pitching and some injuries again. Fired pitching coach. Proper response
2024- better make the NCAA Tourney or his ass is fired
This isn?t hard
We may have to revisit this post next year. Ole Miss is losing a LOT this offseason. I think they're in worse shape than us at the moment honestly.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Bianco and Lemonis is a completely different situation. Bianco is their best coach ever. That's going to give him as much leeway as Lemonis if not more. He's going to retire from there- likely in a couple of years or so. Them firing Bianco would be like us firing Ron Polk. I kind of hope they do fire him- the backlash from the baseball community would be awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
That was one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen in my life. Cost us like a six year win streak in the Governor's Cup also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
It really is. It's confusing to me as well. Add in the buyout, optics, and recruiting classes coming in- it really does make sense. I can understand being mad too. But the answer to the solution isn't to always fire the coach immediately. And that's what some people don't seem to get. Lemonis is highly dependent on the performance of his assistants and if they suck we're going to suck. And if he doesn't perform and we have to fire him at least we can say that we gave him every opportunity to fix the situation and that will go a long way with candidates in the future. Baseball coaches are a lot more analytical as a group and a lot of them are Ok being Scott Berry and being seen as a good coach with some conference titles and no National Championships if it's a good fit for them and their family is happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
2023: Just going to ignore our #10 scoring offense or #14 defense or bad management (NIL ro bad players, misevaluating Hancock's ability at catcher, misevaluating what we had at 3B)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
"Make the tourney or his ass is fired"Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
That's the problem. "Making the tournament" is such a low bar but of he makes it well keep him for yet another below average year. Hell, ove rhalf the SEC is hosting... just "making the tournament" means we'd be below average. I'm not happy woth being below average in baseball, are you? But that's exactly what we'll be endorsing if making the tournament as a 2 seed is enough to keep him.
Odds are if we're making a regional we're a two seed. Odds are we will win a regional even if we are a two seed unless we get a really shit draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Lol where are you getting these "odds" from, Todd? Your ass?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We have missed Hoover 2 straight years. Yet here you are saying "odds are we will be a 2 seed and win a regional baring bad luck"??! WTF? We can't be among the top 12 SEC teams but sure, in the regular season well be among the top 32 teams and in the postseason well wina regional and make the final 16. Give me a break... or at least pass me what you're smokin