Gotta be 1 we?d bring in?.after watching TCU I got excited about what our offense could look like.
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Gotta be 1 we?d bring in?.after watching TCU I got excited about what our offense could look like.
I don't know why people keep getting excited about this. No way a starter anywhere else comes here due to Will. My biggest fear next year is if Will gets hurt. We got nothing ready behind him and this offense hinges on the QB playing with few mistakes.
I would grab someone if I?m Leach if he possesses the arm strength and mobility I might be looking for. And has the intellectual capacity to pick up my offense. Can?t hurt. Just my opinion.
Leary from NC State would be a massive upgrade. We won't get him but he's the guy who gives us a shot next season.
I agree with you on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Tough Dawg
I'm not sure our offense could look more different than some other team, more than TCU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tough Dawg
I don't think we have a designed QB run play in the playbook. TCU road Duggan's legs that second to last drive.
Austin Reed from WKU - #2 passer in the country - just entered the portal. This is a kid we need to be on to challenge Will.
Saw something he is going AuburnQuote:
Originally Posted by CoachT14
Hudson Card from Texas just entered
OU just lost their stud freshman - Evers, would be a good fit as far as backup for at least one season.
Then again, you just don't know with kids these days, they find out they aren't starting and off to the portal they go.
I'm genuinely surprised Sawyer hasn't put his name in the portal, my guess is that his options may be limited.
Why do we need a starter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Any QB that can make 10 yard throws is equal to Will. If such a QB can scramble, then it is an upgrade to Will.
There are very few quarterbacks in the country that would look worse than ours did in 6 of our 8 SEC games this year. We won in spite of him against Auburn and Ole Miss and we looked like absolute dog shit against any defense with a pulse. The idea that we are in trouble if we lose Will Rogers is comical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Without an upgrade at QB, I just don?t see us doing any better than 7-5 next year.
Going to waste all that talent coming back on Defense.
Sawyer is not entering the portal. I don't know why everyone is trying to kick dirt on the kid. He has had very little chances in games to show anything. He hands off a majority of the time. Against ETSU he showed his ability to extend a play and get a 1st down with his feet. The WR seemed wrong on 1 pass, and the interception he threw his Olineman hit his legs. Determining this kids future based off of what the stadium experts think is misguided.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
SEC Numbers on Will:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
62.83% completion % - 7th in the SEC
40.05% success rate - 9th in the SEC
6.28% Explosive play rate - 11th in the SEC
9.3 yards per completion - 12th in the SEC
30 interceptible balls - Most in the SEC
26.96% TD/1st Down % relative to passes thrown - 10th in the SEC
8.85 turnover worthy play rate - Good for 4th highest in the SEC
1.31% Big Play Percentage (over 35 yards) - Last in the SEC
Will was extremely pedestrian win it mattered most. This is all SEC QB's against SEC competition.
So you think we finish worse next year than we did this year? With an easier but no guarantee W of an eastern opponent and KY and OM at home?Quote:
Originally Posted by BhamDawg
How do you see us finishing worse?
4 toss up road games that we could possibly lose all 4- plus Bama and LSU at home. Even the Egg is no given with Mississippi having an experienced QB returningQuote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
I am normally a stats guy, but "Interceptable Balls" sounds really suspect. Unless you qualify that with something like "balls the defense had their hands on and couldn't catch" it seem very subjective.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachT14
Sounds like something the Clarion Ledger would make up for a headline.
I'd put us in the 6-7 win range for next season at this time.
Have you seen how badly our QB regressed against average and above competition? Unless something changes with that, it won’t matter where or who we play.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Add TAM will be much improved as well as Aubbie and maybe Arky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I mean I didn’t just make it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
I sure remember a bunch of passes hitting defenders in the hands and being amazed they weren't intercepted. Several should have been pick 6's.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachT14
TCU runs the Air Raid. Its version showed what a mobile QB can turn it into. Plus Duggan's arm strength on those balls downfield impressed me.
I feel like he was subtly trying to call me an Ole Miss fan with the Clarion Ledger comment. That was only in SEC games as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
We likely start 3-3 with losses against LSU, at SC & Bama. LSU & SC will be better, Bama may not, but it?s Bama.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Followed by:
@Arkansas. Likely better, especially if KJ returns. Fayetteville is always tough.
@Auburn. Will be much better. In case you forgot it took OT to beat coach Cadillac.
Kentucky. I?ll give us a win here with it being at home & Levis leaving.
@A&M. Should be better. A lot of young talent, more coming in, looks like they have found a QB.
USM. Win
Egg Bowl. Anything can happen.
So we are 3-3. Wins against KY and USM, 5-3. Then it comes down to how many can you win out of @Ark, @Aub, @A&M and OM.
With our limitations at QB, I just don?t see us winning more than two of those, and that may be wishful thinking, could easily go 0-4.
Next year should has all the makings of disaster or a great season. It all hinges on QB play. Whether that’s Will or a portal QB. Right now, I have 0 faith Will is going to lead us a to a great season.Quote:
Originally Posted by BhamDawg
Pay them. They will come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Yes!
I?d at least call Drake Maye. All he can say is no!
Are you serious?? You forgot these**** his parents went to unc. If he leaves there it's to go to a blue blood and win a championship. There is zero chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tough Dawg
There may be as much daydreaming on this thread as I have ever seen on this boardQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
No. You could offer $1M and ain't nobody good coming here to be a backup next year. Leach even says it takes a year to learn this system minimum. Some of you have forgotten the mighty transfer from Stanford we had a few years ago and how that worked out. And that kid could sling it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Yea. I bet Mike Leach is super upset that he took transfer quarterback Gardner Minshew. How long was he in the system before he gave Mike arguably his best team ever? You are probably right though. I mean since one transfer quarterback did not work out then we should definitely never try that again. I mean on that note, we should probably stop signing juco players and high school quarterbacks as well, because we have signed about 50 of those in the past decade that did not work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
I'm not against taking a high end transfer. I would love it and I would support it. But it ain't gonna happen with us having a 3 year starter coming back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
And I'm not convinced that Gardner Minshew would have done anything in this league. This is a different world for Leach (talking OC not HC). So far he has had some decent QB talent since he has been here and will is the only one that could halfway run it against decent teams. I'm of the opinion there is a common denominator and it ain't the QB talent.
Will has not run it halfway decent against decent teams. He has run it very well against extremely mediocre teams and he has run it about as poorly as humanly possible against any competent defense we have faced. He was awful in 6 of 8 conference games this year. He was bad enough that if he was playing football at a school that was serious about football they would tell him that it would be in his best interest to hit the transfer portal because that level of play would not be considered acceptable and they would not want anything hindering them from getting a higher level transfer quarterback. We have a lot of really good pieces coming back next year and our Vegas win total is going to be 7 or 7.5 because of our quarterback. We literally have SEC shorts making fun of our team being a quarterback away from being able to compete. Everyone outside a few in our fanbase can see the issue. The risk of not making the Music city bowl next year and flopping is worth it to try and get a qb with a little mobility that isn’t scared to death when the pocket breaks down. Maybe we would be worse. Maybe not. It’s better than not even trying to capitalize on a good schedule with a lot of returning starters because your qb puts a governor on your entire offense against anyone with a competent defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Not to mention, he was playing with second/third strings across the board. I am telling you, we should have given Sawyer that entire dang game. Road our running game and let him make some throws. We still would have won, but you would get Sawyer literally 3 backup seasons worth of snaps at one time.
Dude literally threw more TDs in one state championship game, than Will could ever dream of in a nonconference high school tune up game. The kid can play football, he just needs meaningful snaps and practice time that means something.
Bingo. We could win 7 next year with our walk on qb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
You?re not convinced a guy who started in the NFL could?ve done anything in the SEC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
I know the SEC is good, but damn son.
Kellen Moore started in the NFL and he is the equivalent to Will Rogers now., and they both will end up doing the same thing for a living.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Tibbons
I literally just told you I would love it if we got a really good qb transfer. Nobody on here outside of Bucky wouldn't be excited. I hope Parson comes in here and takes the job even. I realize Will is not built to be a running threat in this league and he doesn't use his legs at all. But don't exaggerate it - my Arkansas and Texas A&M neighbors all look forward to the day he graduates as they did Fitz. So it aint everybody outside our fanbase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
What I'm trying to tell you is that it is as much on our offensive coordinator as it is on our QB. The OC is blaming receivers after every game and you don't see him throwing will under the bus. The OC needs to make some adjustments to take some of the responsibility off the QB (we need to truly establish a run game). We need a good TE worst than we need a new QB in my opinion.