Kamron Sandlin - 4.6 40 - 6'4" - 220 lbs
If so, what is going on LOL. There may be hope for this offense after all....
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Kamron Sandlin - 4.6 40 - 6'4" - 220 lbs
If so, what is going on LOL. There may be hope for this offense after all....
He's not being recruited by MSU as a QB
Well shit. Couldn't you let us all dream for at least a day before popping that bubble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Dangit IYOK, you're pissing in my cheerios this morning... oh man what a dual threat QB could do in this offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
At this point I’ll just take some “minimal mobility”.
Just the idea of recruiting a dual threat would tell me that our offense is looking to add some variationQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Gardner Minshew is listed as a duel threat on Rivals
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospec...-minshew-25830
Was he an exception to Leach's rule?
Some of y'all will have to let the dream of a running QB go. That is not what CML runs. It is what it is. To be fair, we have our QB for at least the next two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
It's not the thought of a dual threat quarterback. It's the hope for some innovation. Which is absolutely what we need to go to the next levelQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Beating a dead horse here on multiple counts, but,Quote:
Originally Posted by DesotoDog1967
1) The designation of "dual threat" by recruiting sites has always been broad and nebulous. Their criteria can be as little as having enough mobility to escape the pocket depending on where, when, and by whom the prospect was first rated. If I remember right, one of the sites called Tyler Russell a dual threat. On top of that, Rivals barely rates higher than ESPN in terms of credibility at this point.
2) I guarantee you Leach has no rule against recruiting athletic, mobile QB's. But a player who's both a complete enough passer for Leach's bare minimum requirements and a good enough athlete to run the ball more than sparingly at the power 5 level is almost certainly one of the top 1-2 QB's and top 5-10 players period in that year's class, and Leach has never coached anywhere that can get in the game for that kind of prospect.
The kid we just offered from Texas is mobile. Had almost 700 yards rushing this past year.
Good postQuote:
Originally Posted by thf24
I think innovation right now is limited by q b arm strength ie) stretching the field and mobility at the position. Right now we are good at short passes but personnel limits what we are doing.
We don’t need Michael Vick but if you ever watched Minshew play he could throw the ball over the field and deep when necessary. He’s about a 4.7 guy but damn near impossible to sack because he head quick feet and can feel the pass rush.
Sawyer and Locke will give you more of that when they are ready.
Minshew isn't really anymore athletic than Will. Minshew just was willing to take off more. I don't think Will's issue is mobility. I think Will has to improve on his pocket awareness & pocket manipulation. Also his anticipation needs to improve some. As he gets older & more comfortable you would hope/expect that to improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesotoDog1967
Good post. Leach gonna go get the best passer for his system and if he's got wheels too then that will be a bonus but not a prerequisite.Quote:
Originally Posted by thf24
Could not agree moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Exactly. And at some point, I hope he stops sliding 10 yards prior to contact (joking - it's only 5 yards).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Go through Minshew scouting combine numbers and then tell me which one of those will can get within a mile of. This is not to mention throwing the ball downfield more than 40 yards in the air.
I’m guessing you’ve never seen Minshew play in college or the nfl.
Name a P5 q b will is more athletic than......just one
I don't think it's fair to compare Will and Minshew. Minshew was a senior when Leach had him and Will was really a freshman. I've no doubt Will will have a much better pocket sense when he is a senior. Heck, he will be much more aware of his surroundings next year.
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They are very different players in that Minshew was 6-1 225 and physically strong, and Minshew ranked in the top five of all q bs in the vertical jump and broad jump at the nfl combine. Minshew was a matador at avoiding sacks, quick feet tough to sack. Minshew does not have a cannon but has an adequate arm to play in the nfl and can make all of the throws.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish
There are some good things Will does such as leadership, accuracy, and progressing through his reads. He and Minshew are not in the same ballpark as athletes.
Minshew is a 5 flat 40 guy. Will won't be much different.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
Aiden O'Connell - Purdue
Spencer Petras - Iowa
That's 2 that I know for sure.
Will can run a five flat forty ?
Don’t think so
Now do arm strength
Have seen both, a lot more than you could imagine and there is not much difference. Weak arm Will is a myth. Will is much much much further ahead than Minshew was at this point in their careers.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
I love Gardner. He is a thicker than Will but that is about it. Its ok to say both are good players. Leach seem to think a lot of both of them
Not sure what you are asking hereQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
His arm is really strong when he throws for 350 and 3 TDs but when he is missing 3 OL suddenly he is noodle arm againQuote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
Dude. He was faster than that in HS. Chill. You dont know as much as you think you do on this oneQuote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
No I’m sorry will can not outrun Minshew, this is ridiculous.
I’ve never called Will noodle arm, but he struggles to throw the ball more than 35-40 yards in the air.
Will is very slow footed and lacks arm strength. That’s a fact.
Nothing personal here, will has done a good job. He does some things very well such as go through his progressions, he’s accurate most of the time and he’s got leadership,skills. There’s a ceiling there however where his physical limitations making winning more than 8 games very difficult IMO. The defense can keep everything in front of them and does not have to defend the whole field. Any pass rush is deadly as will has difficulty sidestepping any pass rush whatsoever.
I am really concerned about our offense next year. I did not realize how good Charles cross really was. We are losing a top 10 NFL draft pick (maybe top 5) at the most crticial OL spot in an offense that desperately needs a strong anchor at LT.
could be really ugly next year on offense. D should be good. Special teams should be better. Schedule not too bad. But Cohen better get that short list ready.Quote:
Originally Posted by calidawg
We've known this since before the season started.Quote:
Originally Posted by calidawg
If #2 is still our QB when he is a Senior?. We are 17?ed.
pure.plain & simple.
Ok. Well he is faster than a 5.0 that is just fact. See how that works?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
Nah he will break records and go to bowls for at least 3 more years so you might as well get ready for the 17Quote:
Originally Posted by Reunion Dog
Will he? Everyone assumes he will not try pro ball after next year or the year after.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
The nfl is not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigdawg
Really shouldn't speculate as to what Will might do as far as the NFL is concerned because this will just be his sophomore season. Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round. Let's wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
When it comes to discussing QB's some of you seem to have issues.
The QB conversation is hard to have with Wyatt sitting at the table. He?s gonna do like any of us would do if y?all were discussing yours or my kid. Just gotta remember that when he talks. If you read close enough, you can usually see the spin he?s putting on it.
Its hard to have any conversation with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dak Holliday
It doesnt matter. Yall will just continue to eat it like you have since he started. Again, come up with a new insult bc the Dad stuff just makes you look like you have nothing better to do but troll me
Why would pointing to your relationship be an insult? It?s just a glimpse into the reason for your blind dedication. I do appreciate how you word your posts, though. Words carefully selected that would be fairly true of any QB in Will?s position. Good job.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****