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9 throws of 20+ in over 150 attempts is embarrassing and unacceptable.
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9 throws of 20+ in over 150 attempts is embarrassing and unacceptable.
So on passes of 10 yards or more he is 25/38 (66%) for 496 yards (13 per attempt) with 4TD and 0 INT. Do it more
We’ve definitely got to attack more
Exactly. It seems to be a confidence issue. He only goes deep when the game is on the line and we have no choice. He's got to do it more, or else we have to find someone that will.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Yeah somethings definitely different when he HAS to push the ball down the field. I appreciate him wanting to protect the ball but he's bogging us down. He's shown he can move this offense and move it quickly but he's got to quit being so cautious. Probably traumatized by watching Costello throw all those ints last year(I know I was).Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Yeah me too, and I agree with you on all pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
It's frustrating.
Makai Polk has PROVEN he can win 50/50 balls. Throw them up and let him go get them.
You also might draw a pass interference penalty. There are positives to throwing it deep.
I could care less about the deep ball, just freaking change that 28.2 behind the line of scrimmage. That is atrocious!
Haha so trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Maverick91
We have as many yards on 7 completions of 20+ as we do 42 completions behind the LOS.
Ironically his only interception thus far was on a pass behind the LOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Will is like Matt Wyatt without the turnovers.
It's insane. Everyone in the stands can see people open. Like wide ass open. And Will checks it down most of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Ouch!Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Even if you don't complete them you've got to chunk it deep at least a couple times a game to open things up. Heck even Brady's last year in New England when he didn't have any legitimate deep threat he was hampered big time because there's no way to loosen up a defense.
That's the other thing. It's not like we don't have good receivers now. Heath and Polk can catch deep balls. Walley is a play maker. Not to mention others. Even Austin Williams is a solid receiver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I cannot imagine how much different our season would look if that wasn't the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Yep, I think I remember seeing somewhere where Jackie said he would call a fly route once every 20+ plays just to keep the safeties from crashing. I think he even said he'd tell Madkin he didn't care if he overthrew it by 10 yards, that we were just doing it for show...if we caught it that was a bonus. At the very least, we need to do that, bc nobody respects our offense beyond 10-15 yards....nobody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Yeah and we have burners like Calvin and Tulu as well who can surely get deep quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
You absolutely have to. You have to at least make people think you can do it and looking at the stats Will has done pretty well at it. If the whole defense is playing within 10 yards of the LOS way to congested.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
So I just realized he has a higher completion percentage, 78%, on passes 20+, than he has on passes 0-9 yds (77%)
That is wild
It's because his arm is too weak and he can't over throw themQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
As much as I do think we need to stretch the field vertically, what would help the most us to get a little more creative in the run game. We have two running plays, three when we are in 20 personnel. Just a counter, power, variation of the split zone, something.
Matt Wyatt was a better QB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I posted his yards per attempt and yards per completion numbers yesterday?. You simply cannot operate an offense in a six yard box. Our backs averaging 5-6 yards per reception looks good on paper because we equate that to yards per carry, however what most people fail to realize is that our backs are averaging 12.6 receptions a game versus 20-25 carries in a more balanced offense. Therefore you?re leaving 40-50 yards of offense on the field just by dumping it to the backs alone.
Im so sick of anyone saying this is on Leach and not will. Realistically its most likely both, but to act like will isnt a huge issue is just being biased and looking the other way. I just don?t understand how anyone with a brain doesnt see it
Boy... that's reaching to be negative.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgman15
I'm sure I'll screw the ppl up, and I'm not gonna look it up (playing years)... but at a Bulldog Club meeting once, JWS said "If you put a bag over the heads of Wyatt, Manning & Couch, you couldn't tell them apart." But yet there was a huge difference between the three... huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
It's both.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
We need to RTGDF more
We need to throw deep more to loosen the safeties and give our very good WR's a chance to make a play.
Leach can work at State IF he will make some tweaks. If being the operative word
Can't argue with any of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We'll revisit in two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
I know will is an issue. The difference for me is I didn't expect will to be great in 2021. I expected him to be about what he is (manage things, give us a chance to win) and improve through the season to the point he is ready to be good next year. He has played more than well enough for us to be 3-0 and on the path for a bowl game, which is all I expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by vv83
All it would take is let the two back set, set the tone. Use one as a lead blocker some with a counter. Sometimes run a sweep option. Sometimes shovel. Sometimes drop down to 1 back and give it to Polk, Tulu, Austin, whomever on a jet sweep. Heck, motion our RB out and then bring him in sweep motion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
And you have to have quick runs up the middle to keep the lb guessing. Right now, it takes a 3rd grader to figure out what we are doing. Stopping us takes barely more than that.
And please God, run some tempo. With only 6 ?plays? you should be able to get the play in and get the snap off inside 12 seconds.
If you run a sweep option enough, Will could sweep and then take a couple steps back and let one fly.
I would also argue that our backs should go and try to take some catches past the line of scrimmage more often in lieu to just moving them to the boundary. Let them put a move on their defender and try to get 4 yards down field before you uncork it.
That has got to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
No doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I think the issue with this is that the RBs are more of a 'I'm out of options and through my progressions, let's try and get 3 yards instead of a sack'. I'm sure there are plays designed to actually go to the RBs, but I'm betting most are just a safety outlet. If you start running them over the middle or in a different spot, it messes up the spacing on the other routes (like mesh).Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
SEC StatCat
@SEC_StatCat
The SEC's most accurate passers on tries with a time to throw of 2 seconds or less; min 10 att
1. Rogers 87.7%
2. Young 84.1%
3. Milton 81.8%
4. Daniels 81.1%
5. Bazelak 78.9%
6. Johnson 78.3%
7. Hooker 76.7%
8. Levis 76.2%
9. Jefferson 75.9%
10. Nix 72.7%
SEC AVR = 75.9%
https://twitter.com/SEC_StatCat?ref_...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
This link takes you too the SEC Stat Cat twitter feed with lots of QB comparisons going on so you can see where Will stacks up to the competition
So Rogers is better than decent. Looks to me he just needs to trust his reads and his arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgman15