Has anyone heard?
Has anyone heard?
Need to bowl it in. Yesterday..
I think those plans have been put on hold for a while. I don't really think they're certain with what they want to do and they're against adding more capacity since we can't sell out the current stadium. For awhile I had heard the plan was to bowl it and then chairback the entire lower bowl to keep capacity about the same, but I believe there was some type of structural problem with doing that.
Your going to see a lot of empty seats this fall and I honestly don’t see a return to full capacity any time soon.
We are going to have a great season propelling the bowling in.
IFFY
I tend to agree with this and I don't think it has anything to do with on the field performance. Reduced capacity last year forced the casual fan who might go to 3-4 ballgames a year to watch the game from home and they realized they didn't mind it and saved a few thousand dollars in the process. I don't know that you'll ever get that type of fan back unless you start winning at an incredible clip or you have a massive game, think A&M and Auburn in 14 or Bama in 17.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgbite
My personal opinion, I think your casual MSU sports fan who will casually attend sporting events has crossed over to baseball for the foreseeable future. Until football gets back rolling again, I don’t expect to see a packed house like we did during the end of the Dak era.
Once football gets rolling again, COVID is behind us, and all of those obstacles are ironed out… maybe but until that time I see the casual fan that provided a few thousand (10ish) seats at the football games will put their support behind baseball and will be at The Dude for a while. Once again, just my opinion.
Give our football fans a stadium they can be proud of. Open end zones don't belong in the SEC. Its an embarrassing eyesore. Cowbells, Acoustics, louder and shit.
We're just not naturally a football school. I wish we had more support, but we don't. I don't know how that bodes for the future, but being in the SEC West is absolutely brutal. It's almost impossible to get ahead in our circumstance.
Bowl it in with a convention center/hotel/retail Restaurant Bar. Put chairbacks on lower level sidelines, reduce capacity and increase prices?casual fan days are over?that being said, I bought season tickets last year but not buying this year.
I disagree. We have a stadium to be proud of; it may not be the biggest but we have a nice stadium and it has a lot of character. I don't mind the open endzone. Just a big bowl is nothing special, everybody got a cheezy bowl - see OM but the stadium sucks. UT is a suck stadium too. Our stadium is nice. Now would I be opposed to something one day, no. I don't think we will be able to justify it for a while though for all the reasons others have listed.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
After last year which I didn't attend a football game, I want be buying season football tickets. My priority has changed, I have too many other hobbies now days like hunting and doing more traveling.
I bought season tickets and I will be there myself.
I haven't heard of anything for the near future and really don't expect it. I do hope the immediate plan is for Will Rogers to toss a bunch of completions into it.
1. Before a "bowl in". Demo the entire west side and start over. Build something first class, more suites, luxury seating with chairbacks and all the latest amenities for the fan.
2. The attendance problem is.....
TV product is huge competition and much cheaper alternative.
Tickets to expensive for the product. The university is making a killing from tv. No need to still charge the common man $75-125 a ticket per game.
Poor customer service (metal detectors and concessions)
I think every game being on TV hurts us more than most because our fans have to travel further to get to campus on average than probably any fanbase in the SEC. Starkville is just too far from a large population base. Also, I think NIL is going to hurt us going forward because we don't have enough boosters that are 'all in'. Certainly not as many as OM or most of the rest of the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
You would be surprised. Also those 11:00 games are killers!Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
The stadium is fine and no part of it is an eyesore. I would be down for a expanding iit but it is not a priority. It will be rocking this fall I am pumped for that atmosphere to come back. We had really made it one of the best in the country till Moorheads last season.
The biggest need State has is a new IPF. It is a must. It is literally the only piece we are missing. The Palmerio should become baseball only. Football deserves its own top notch deal. OM has one and it is the only thing they have that is better than ours.
The next thing that will be done is to bring the east side under the stands up to the standard of the rest of the stadium. That is probably all we need to do for the near term future.
We don't need much more seating capacity (if any, maybe 2k). I would install chair backs for all stadium seating except for the student section and the visitor section. That would lower the capacity. Then I would mirror the north end zone.
Though I do like the hotel-in-the-endzone idea, and it was seriously discussed for a bit. But it's not going to happen. Too bad, that would be revolutionary.
This is exactly where I am at as well. I've been hunting in the mountains for atleast 3 of our games the last three years and it's gotten easier to do each time.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
17 this. Loser mentality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg2003
What a loser thread this turned out to be. Good heavens, we're an SEC school, freaking act like it.
- The M-Club looks awful. It's faded and an eye sore. It's also the most seen building on campus due to TV. It's brutal and needs he demoed and bowled in immediately. It's terrible and an indictment on all of you that you accept it.
- We are a football school. We were number 1 in 2014, have numerous great NFL players, and have been to bowl games for 11 or so years in a row. Baseball don't pay the bills or build a school brand like football. We darn better be a football school.
- Does COVID somehow spread quicker at DWS than DNF? Because I saw 20K at DNF for a 17ing parade. A 1.7.I.N.G parade.....quit the COVID excuse. You lost that privilege this baseball season
- Our football stadium's south end zone is the quite possibly the cheapest looking thing that makes it on Tv in the SEC. It devalues our University and quite frankly, if you don't agree with that, you need to raise your standards in life.
This woo is me BS has to stop! I agree CFB needs to cut scholarships to increase parity which will increase attendance, but we've got a winning program here that needs the support of its fan base. It's important to the school and state to do so.
Get your shit together MSU fans. This thread and it's tone are straight trash.
I would build a new Hump before I bowled in the south endzone.
I would build a new Dorman as well.
The M club looks like we a community college.
So I say do all three. Why not? It only gets more expensive every year. We are talking maybe 170 million to do it right. That is like 3 years of SEC money.
This X 10. Repped.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
And just where are these thousands of fans going to sit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Medic601
It ain't happening anytime soon. The MClub looks better than thousands of empty seats would. As I said the next thing planned for the stadium is to bring the east side underneath the stands (the REAL eyesore in our stadium) up to the standard of the rest of the stadium. That is more important to those who actually go to the games than what it looks like on TV. For the record I usually get to a game or three but I watch the rest on TV. Y'all ain't dealing in reality. One more thing, I doubt you are going to see anything new facilities wise that isn't already in an advanced planning stage for a few years. The NIL thing is a major change and who knows how it's going to shake out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
We can absolutely pull off something like this adding functionality and aesthetics without adding unnecessary seating.
https://footballstadiumdigest.com/wp...h-End-Zone.jpg
You are totally overreacting. It is not an eyesore and I dont know anyone who cares about it as much as you do. I love the passion but it is not nearly that big of a deal. Idk if you have ever been inside of it but it is nice on the inside. Looks fine to me on the outside. State football needs an IPF 10x more than we need this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
If you have been inside the Palmerio you would agree. Maybe you have but it is a joke compared to OMs. The rest of our facilities shit on it and OMs. DWS will be back to being one of the best gameday environments in the country in 2021.
You & everyone else need to raise their standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I agree with the rest of your post, but the M Club is an unacceptable front porch of the school
Its not the front porch of the school. Its just not that big of a deal. The stadium is fine. We have bigger needs than this. We just do.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
While I agree we need to improve the stadium, the Dude is our front porchQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Exactly, we have always been a baseball school and we always will be a baseball school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
We got more exposure during DAK's 5 week run than the natty. The natty is super special though because ite recent and our first. The M Club's beauty or not doesn't matter; the ugliness of an open endzone is what matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
#2 above for sure. Ticket prices are overblown everywhere at every school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Good points about ticket prices when considering the other sources of revenue. It's like athletic departments being publicly traded on the NYSE with shareholders pounding their fists screaming "17 the average fan!!, let them eat cake!"
No. The many many many more people see DWS than DNF. Many more. It's not close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
This is an unacceptable narrative. I love baseball, but it's best if we're a football school & attempt to be that.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Correct. It's not closeQuote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales