Starting DT Tyler Shelvin opting out now https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...884812801?s=21
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Starting DT Tyler Shelvin opting out now https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/st...884812801?s=21
Are we basically playing Kentucky now in game 1?
Still super talented roster, but very little experience. Going to be tough to beat them either way, but having them week 1 sure does help now.
They’re super talented at a few positions, but I’m not sure about overall nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Heydawg
Positionally, I think I would take our qb room, rb room, and OL room.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Agree. I may even take our DL after this opt out. Not sure. I’d have to look.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I’d definitely still take their WRs and DBs
We?re beating these mofos!!
We now have a real chance to beat them. There is something going on in Baton Rouge. I don’t care how they try to downplay it. Every other school that is playing that has these highly draftable players isn’t having the Same issue.
State by 21Quote:
Originally Posted by Heydawg
Our depth on defense and talent at WR is going to hurt us. New systems on both sides too.
Ok. Them tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
They'll still be running the same offense. Sorry, they are. They didn't just forget the playbook because one asst left. And they're still considerably more talented than us. You guys that think we're going to suddenly score 50 a game are going to be disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I'm mean your not wrong but your in the worst case scenario camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Pelini does run a different defense than Aranda and I don't know what Scott Linehan will be running.
Another factor is that they'll be playing a ton of guys that haven't played.
Just looks like your trying to find reasons why we won't compete rather than reasons why we will.
Maybe they stopped paying their players!!
LSU now has 71 players on scholarship. That’s the equivalent of one of the biggest probations you get from the NCAA. The game should be competitive. I don’t think we could get them at a better time. That being said, we will still need help to win. LSU is playing with 12 less scholarship players Than us and a roster That completely turned over and they will still be a 2 touchdown favorite at least. Something has to change in college football.
There is a rumor that LSU could have 1 or 2 more starters opt out.
They probably see the writing on the wall. No SEC championship and no National Championship so why risk getting hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Did I miss where they canceled the SEC Championship and Natty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
There’s more to it. Football players want to play football. Something Is rotten in Denmark
Feels like a mutinyQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
I think LSU may have a problem with agents/runners around their players. Just a guess.
The other guys know what they have on the team and know they will not will it. When Chase left that was the first domino.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
If I was chase and I knew I was a first rounder, why not hire a agent. That agent will float me money. I can train 24/7 and not worry about rules or getting hurt. No brainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmabull
Gotcha. Yeah, I think they may realize they aren’t very good and draftable players are scared of their stocking fallingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Maybe but why not do that 3 weeks ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Also, the Nose tackle isn’t a top 2 round talent.
So why hasn't this been a problem with Bama or the other perennial powerhouses ? .... I know they have lost a few here and there but this seems like a different level
Correct. That’s the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
Hell you had a kid from Ole Miss opt out and few weeks later decided to transfer. Who knows why they change their minds.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Coaching. That's the reason. The staff at LSU is shit. O can recruit but he is not a premier coach. The coach that made the differences last season is gone. They were average the season before last and will be average this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
Projected starter's 247 rating with LSU's opted out players. Last 2 numbers are the average. It's a lot closer than last year or even 2 months ago. Sorry about the formatting. Looked a lot better in the spreadsheet.
LSU MSU
OLINE OLINE
4 0.8992 So 5 0.9877 FR
4 0.9217 Jr 3 0.8416 Sr
4 0.9105 Jr 3 0.8797 Sr
4 0.9179 Fr 4 0.9223 Sr
4 0.9772 Sr 3 0.8529 Sr
TE TE
3 0.8386 Sr 3 0.8775 So
WR WR
3 0.861 Sr 4 0.9587 JR
4 0.9312 So 3 0.8785 JR
5 0.993 Jr 4 0.9064 FR
3 0.8828 So 3 0.8366 JR
4 0.9499 So 4 0.8913 FR
3 0.8579 So 3 0.8423 FR
QB QB
4 0.9347 Jr 4 0.9749 SR
RB RB
4 0.8924 So 4 0.9184 JR
4 0.9399 So 4 0.9369 FR
5 0.9929 So 3 0.883 FR
OLB OLB
4 0.9206 Sr 3 0.8816 FR
4 0.9216 Sr 4 0.9034 JR
MLB MLB
4 0.8923 Jr 3 0.8807 SR
4 0.9044 Jr 3 0.8681 FR
DE DE
4 0.9318 Sr 4 0.9056 SR
4 0.9216 So 4 0.9047 SR
NT DT
4 0.9400 So 4 0.9675 So
3 0.8702 Fr 4 0.8944 So
CB CB
3 0.8735 So 3 0.8614 So
5 0.998 So 3 0.8696 Sr
3 0.8801 So
S S
4 0.9432 So 3 0.8881 So
5 0.9901 Sr 3 0.8721 Sr
AVG 0.9203 3 0.8859 Sr
AVG 0.8935
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein
The difference is the ratings of the people behind those starters that will still have to play for both teams. I agree it's much closer than some people on here want you to believe at this point though.
Good stuff. I was thinking of doing something like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein
QB - MSU
RB - MSU
OL - MSU
WR - LSU by a mile
DL - Even
LB - Even
DB - LSU by a mile
Really outside of WR & DB, the two teams are very comparable.
Thus, MSU must get a pass rush & Costello must be good.
I really like our OL potential to pass block vs their DL & LBs. If KJ can have some time, Leach’s offense will beat those DB.
With that DL & LSU strength of DBs, LSU may drop coverage & only rush 3 guys. Will Leach run Kylin & just win the game?
It’ll be on Arnett to dial up pressure and create some big plays
2017
Troy 24-21
Miss state 37-7
This 2020 roster for LSU right now is worse than the 2017 one..
Just saying
Brad Edwards on OOB said due to what LSU has lost recently they do not have a legit three deep at most positions. And it will show.
I've got LSU by 10. If reports from practice get better, then maybe I look at it differently. We've got a long way to go on both sides of the ball.
I think LSU by 10 is a fair prediction at the moment. I also think our offense is going to be much better than people on here are saying though. Our starting quarterback, running back, and receivers are getting high praise from everyone that has been to practice except the ones from here. I think once the top 8 receivers get the majority of the snaps the timing will get much better. Drops aren't an issue with the ones who will be playing. The defense has been universally criticized from basically everyone so that's probably spot on. The fact that week 1 is no longer a blowout prediction and we could actually win the game will make the next month way more exciting. As much as I was ready for football to start, not having any hope for the first week still dampened the excitement a little bit. Now it feels like we have a real chance to compete at least.
With a bunch of new coachesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Are you really basing your opinion on C34’s practice report?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I don’t think that’s fair at all. There’s no basis for favoring LSU by 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
I’d say LSU -4 or -5 & that’s because I have absolutely no idea what we’ll look like
We are going to be better on Offense without question..Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Defense is huge ?
Yes we lost some guys ... Gay /Dantlzer and Cole are the 3 hardest to replace. But Willie only played in 3.5 games last year not counting the bowl game . Autry missed 8 games and played in one meaningless game . Rivers was solid but not a difference maker ( like I thought he would be ) . Landrews and Peters basically same player .. Leo was average at best . Smitherman missed half the season at CB.
Lovett had basically the same numbers as Crumedy ..
Depth And lack of experience is the big issue this year .. we have recruited defense well on paper.. time to see if these kids are as good as expected
Davis , Wheat, and Lawson all would have played last year and Davis would have started
Emerson will have a big year and separate himself as Dantlzer did as a Sophomore...we at just so thin and young at CB. It?s an issue now but could be a huge issue with a few injuries
I like the depth at LB. lot of young guys . Brule could have a really good year. And an IN SHAPE Errol is very good SEC LB
I think Murphy has a really good year for us in the backend .. He is going too have to
We need Kobe to be a leader and have a really good year and hopefully Marquiss Spencer can stay healthy. That kid played a lot of snaps back on the Sweat and Simmons teams .. his talent is there
Pickering and Crumedy are SEC talents. And I think Pickering could be and will be very very good. Just need the 2 and 3 deep there to step up and be serviceable