Buy Or Sell: KJ Costello Will Be 1st Team All-SEC QB?

I buy....

I think he's clearly the best QB in the league this year.

I put the QBs in tiers this year & I think Costello is clearly #1.

Here's a question: If you let every other SEC team have Costello for 1 season, would he start for them? Politics aside, I think so. I think all 14 SEC teams would start him this year if given the opportunity

Discuss...

Tier 1:
Costello - Most experienced, smartest, & most talented. Barring injury will almost assuredly lead the SEC in passing

Tier 2:
Mack Jones - Had some good moments & bad ones.
Bo Nix - Has accuracy issues
Kellen Mond - One read QB. Lots of experience though
Jamie Newman - I don't have a clue. Was solid at Wake though
Kyle Trask - Sneaky good.
Ryan Kilinski - Very talented, but offensive coaching sucks

Tier 3:

Jarrett Guarantano - Filler player. Empty suit. Just wears an orange jersey & plays QB
Felipe Franks - See Guarantano
Plumlee/Corral - talented in areas but severely flawed in others
Terry Wilson - talented but very flawed

Tier 4:
Myles Brennan - Is LSU really going to start this guy? Like really?
Vandy QB - Who cares
Mizzou QB - Who cares

Newman is good, and he's gonna have some killer weapons.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Newman is good, and he's gonna have some killer weapons.

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He may be the sneaky alternative option

I personally think Costello could be the best QB in the SEC but the media won't vote him there pre-season. They'll put Newman, Mond, Trask, and even Nix ahead of him. Could see Mac Jones getting the Bama Bump ahead of him too. I don't agree with it, that's just what you can probably expect with the SEC homer media. I'd say the best QB in the SEC battle is between Costello-Newman-Trask just personally. And I'm saying this "pre-season" wise. After the season, I think he will end up 1st or 2nd team All-SEC with the #'s he will put up.

Need to slow this roll. Hoping for great things but installing a new offense with a QB who gets here in summer.... Love to see him sling it all over the yard to open receivers, but there might be that adjustment period

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Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19

I personally think Costello could be the best QB in the SEC but the media won't vote him there pre-season. They'll put Newman, Mond, Trask, and even Nix ahead of him. Could see Mac Jones getting the Bama Bump ahead of him too. I don't agree with it, that's just what you can probably expect with the SEC homer media. I'd say the best QB in the SEC battle is between Costello-Newman-Trask just personally. And I'm saying this "pre-season" wise. After the season, I think he will end up 1st or 2nd team All-SEC with the #'s he will put up.

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You are probably right, but I think the Leach offense gives Costello credibility.

Any media member with a brain will likely believe that Costello will lead the SEC in passing. That alone with Costello's talent should get him preseason votes

Jones will put up really good numbers because he's a good QB and has elite talent all around him. Trask should have a good year. Newman will be good, but it's hard to know if that offense will put up better numbers than they have recently. Nix could break out at any moment. And Mond is really good.

But I do agree that in terms of pure experience/talent and the kind of numbers you feel confident about them putting up, it's probably Costello at the top right now. He will probably get docked some for being in a Leach system and because we'll lose some games, but he is set up to do really, really well.

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Originally Posted by Dognabbit

Need to slow this roll. Hoping for great things but installing a new offense with a QB who gets here in summer.... Love to see him sling it all over the yard to open receivers, but there might be that adjustment period

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I'm not sure I agree.

I've listened to a bunch of interviews on Costello & apparently he's the most intelligent QB & best leader many of the Pac 12 people have seen in a while.

I think it's going to become clear pretty quickly that this guy is the real deal. Throw that in with Leach's history of getting less talented QBs up & running quickly in this offense & I have a feeling it won't take very long. Although I am glad the schedule starts off weaker.

I think Costello is a different animal from what I'm hearing

Too early to know, let's see how the OL and receivers progress first. Offenses usually take a little more time, especially a first year QB in a system he hasn't played in yet.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Jones will put up really good numbers because he's a good QB and has elite talent all around him. Trask should have a good year. Newman will be good, but it's hard to know if that offense will put up better numbers than they have recently. Nix could break out at any moment. And Mond is really good.

But I do agree that in terms of pure experience/talent and the kind of numbers you feel confident about them putting up, it's probably Costello at the top right now. He will probably get docked some for being in a Leach system and because we'll lose some games, but he is set up to do really, really well.

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I don't see it with Nix.

They lost their entire OL & Whitlow is in the transfer portal. I think Auburn could be in for a struggle this season

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Originally Posted by basedog

Too early to know, let's see how the OL and receivers progress first. Offenses usually take a little more time, especially a first year QB in a system he hasn't played in yet.

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Well.... of course it's too early to know.

That's why we put forth predictions. We prognosticate

We'd have nothing to discuss if we just always said, "it's too early to know"

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

You are probably right, but I think the Leach offense gives Costello credibility.

Any media member with a brain will likely believe that Costello will lead the SEC in passing. That alone with Costello's talent should get him preseason votes

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Oh I'm with you Gun. With Leach's credibility and name recognition with his offense and Costello's hype as a legit top 4-5 QB draft prospect going into the 2019 season should be enough for media to know he's likely going to lead the SEC in passing.

Only problem is the part of your post I underlined and put in bold lol. You're assuming media members that vote on this stuff use their brains and not bias. It's just my own opinion that Costello will have to head "head and shoulders" a better year stats wise than anyone else to get 1st team because the media will be waiting to hand it to Newman at UGA or Jones at Bama or Nix at AU or Trask at UF. And we will probably have to win 9 games including bowl game as a team for him to get it as well. It's an individual award but we all know the media wants to give it to Bama/UGA/LSU/AU players if at all possible because they will win 10+ games.

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Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19

Oh I'm with you Gun. With Leach's credibility and name recognition with his offense and Costello's hype as a legit top 4-5 QB draft prospect going into the 2019 season should be enough for media to know he's likely going to lead the SEC in passing.

Only problem is the part of your post I underlined and put in bold lol. You're assuming media members that vote on this stuff use their brains and not bias. It's just my own opinion that Costello will have to head "head and shoulders" a better year stats wise than anyone else to get 1st team because the media will be waiting to hand it to Newman at UGA or Jones at Bama or Nix at AU or Trask at UF. And we will probably have to win 9 games including bowl game as a team for him to get it as well. It's an individual award but we all know the media wants to give it to Bama/UGA/LSU/AU players if at all possible because they will win 10+ games.

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You may be right, but I will say that many of the 1st team SEC honors don't have as much to do with record as awards like the Heisman

Sell. They'll pick someone else and make up some reason like he's never faced a SEC team as their reason.

Sell. The optimism here is getting out of control. I get there's reason to be excited but I'd pull it back a bit

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Sell. They'll pick someone else and make up some reason like he's never faced a SEC team as their reason.

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I guess I'm talking about postseason. Not preseason

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Sell. The optimism here is getting out of control. I get there's reason to be excited but I'd pull it back a bit

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Why? What's wrong with optimism?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Well.... of course it's too early to know.

That's why we put forth predictions. We prognosticate

We'd have nothing to discuss if we just always said, "it's too early to know"

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What is wrong with you? I said nothing wrong and posted my opinion, nothing more or less, why reply to "we", you should have said you to discuss. LOL

Sell. As of now there's at least 3-4 QBs ahead of him just based on their league experience. Mond and Trask are the two big names returning, but you also have Bo Nix in his second season as well as Felipe Franks at Arkansas and Tyler Hilinski at USCe. Not saying that Costello couldn't be better than any of those guys, but it's unknown at this point. All those guys have started games in this conference and know what it's like.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I don't see it with Nix.

They lost their entire OL & Whitlow is in the transfer portal. I think Auburn could be in for a struggle this season

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Just saying, he was rated similar to Costello coming out of HS and is a good fit in that offense. So he could bust out at some point.

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Originally Posted by basedog

What is wrong with you? I said nothing wrong and posted my opinion, nothing more or less, why reply to "we", you should have said you to discuss. LOL

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Nothings wrong with me. I just disagreed completely with the premise of your opinion.

I don't call you a name & didn't even say your name. Just disagreed.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Why? What's wrong with optimism?

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Nothing, within reason. Hence why I said it's been getting a bit out of control on here lately. I'm in the boat that I still hate the Leach hire so I'm probably too far on the other side of the spectrum though. Hopefully I'm wrong and Costello throws for 4k and 35 TD and Leach takes us to the Sugar Bowl

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Sell. As of now there's at least 3-4 QBs ahead of him just based on their league experience. Mond and Trask are the two big names returning, but you also have Bo Nix in his second season as well as Felipe Franks at Arkansas and Tyler Hilinski at USCe. Not saying that Costello couldn't be better than any of those guys, but it's unknown at this point. All those guys have started games in this conference and know what it's like.

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I mean, Costello has started more games than all but Mond at the power 5 level.

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Nothing, within reason. Hence why I said it's been getting a bit out of control on here lately. I'm in the boat that I still hate the Leach hire so I'm probably too far on the other side of the spectrum though. Hopefully I'm wrong and Costello throws for 4k and 35 TD and Leach takes us to the Sugar Bowl

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Why do you hate the Leach hire?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Why do you hate the Leach hire?

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Not going back down that rabbit hole. Like I said, I hope I'm eating my words a year from now. Hail State

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I mean, Costello has started more games than all but Mond at the power 5 level.

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But as we know, the SEC is a completely different animal. Again, he could be better, but you can't argue that there isn't a MASSIVE unknown with him playing in this league. QB's always take time to adjust to the league.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

But as we know, the SEC is a completely different animal. Again, he could be better, but you can't argue that there isn't a MASSIVE unknown with him playing in this league. QB's always take time to adjust to the league.

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Bama, LSU, & Auburn are a different animal. The rest of the games are not.

I think the "SEC is a different animal" thing is overplayed. People that can play can play & people that can't can't

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I guess I'm talking about postseason. Not preseason

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Sell if we go 7-5 or 6-6 like some suspect. Maybe if we have a special season he gets it.

He may be that talented but we better find some WRs. You're only as good as your supporting cast at times and his is not overly talented. I know Leach makes it easier on them but we still have got to have some guys that can beat a man coverage and catch the football.

Brennan has some studs to throw the football to as do several other SEC schools.

Costello will potentially on paper have one of the worst WR corps in the SEC.

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Originally Posted by BB30

He may be that talented but we better find some WRs. You're only as good as your supporting cast at times and his is not overly talented. I know Leach makes it easier on them but we still have got to have some guys that can beat a man coverage and catch the football.

Brennan has some studs to throw the football to as do several other SEC schools.

Costello will potentially on paper have one of the worst WR corps in the SEC.

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I have a sneaky suspicion that our WRs are actually better than what we've seen under Joe & we'll pick up a grad transfer that will have an impact.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Nothings wrong with me. I just disagreed completely with the premise of your opinion.

I don't call you a name & didn't even say your name. Just disagreed.

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OK, Sell

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Originally Posted by BB30

He may be that talented but we better find some WRs. You're only as good as your supporting cast at times and his is not overly talented. I know Leach makes it easier on them but we still have got to have some guys that can beat a man coverage and catch the football.

Brennan has some studs to throw the football to as do several other SEC schools.

Costello will potentially on paper have one of the worst WR corps in the SEC.

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Yes to this. We lack speed big time.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Yes to this. We lack speed big time.

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I wonder if Tulu & Heath will change that?

Furthermore, I think Leach's offenses have always lacked speed at WR. In fact, we may have more now than he's mostly ever had

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I have a sneaky suspicion that our WRs are actually better than what we've seen under Joe & we'll pick up a grad transfer that will have an impact.

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I do too about the wide receivers. I know we want a grad transfer and we'll see how that shapes up in the spring.

Sell

Costello is the best qb in the SEC this year starting out. He is a 5 year senior and has started in big games. Some of you are dumb as 17. That is all.

It'll be Nix because Auburn QB's are always pumped up by the media before actual football begins.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

It'll be Nix because Auburn QB's are always pumped up by the media before actual football begins.

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This is true. They pumped him up as a true freshman because his Dad played there.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

Costello is the best qb in the SEC this year starting out. He is a 5 year senior and has started in big games. Some of you are dumb as 17. That is all.

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Who is he going to be throwing the ball to that isn't a sunbelt type WR? He may very well be the most talented QB in the SEC. Problem is he can't throw the ball to himself he has to have a supporting cast. Now, I do agree that we don't really know what we have in the WR department right now being that our WRs weren't necessarily used correctly the last couple of years but we still had a ton of drops which has very little to do with coaching.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

It'll be Nix because Auburn QB's are always pumped up by the media before actual football begins.

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Problem is that Nix isn't very good & Auburn will be worse this year