So here's a question about stupid hot games like this.

Pay attention SEC and NCAA. I can't believe lawyers aren't all over this already.

Postponing a game because of bad weather is not unusual. We are just used to seeing it have to do with lightning or other "wet" related weather incidents.

Schedule games as usual of course. But what is really stopping venues and/or schools and/or conferences and/or NCAA from postponing scheduled day games when it is determined that unsafe "hot" weather issues exist? How is it any different? What's wrong with saying it is too 17ing hot so this game will be postponed until 700pm.

Yes, there are issues of folks that can't stay. Yes there is tv slot issues on the original slot as well as where (and if) the game can be shown at the postponed time. But those issues aren't anything that doesn't occur when a postponement happens for other reasons. They do it all. The . Time.

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Originally Posted by BulldogBear

Pay attention SEC and NCAA. I can't believe lawyers aren't all over this already.

Postponing a game because of bad weather is not unusual. We are just used to seeing it have to do with lightning or other "wet" related weather incidents.

Schedule games as usual of course. But what is really stopping venues and/or schools and/or conferences and/or NCAA from postponing scheduled day games when it is determined that unsafe "hot" weather issues exist? How is it any different? What's wrong with saying it is too 17ing hot so this game will be postponed until 700pm.

Yes, there are issues of folks that can't stay. Yes there is tv slot issues on the original slot as well as where (and if) the game can be shown at the postponed time. But those issues aren't anything that doesn't occur when a postponement happens for other reasons. They do it all. The . Time.

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Weather related delays are for the protection of those on the field, not the ones in the stands. As long as the players have what is needed to keep them hydrated and cool, there is no reason for postponement. You're an adult. It isn't the NCAA or SEC's responsibility to make sure you're comfortable.

Hell with watch espn, we can start at 9, who gives a shit.

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Originally Posted by BulldogBear

Pay attention SEC and NCAA. I can't believe lawyers aren't all over this already.

Postponing a game because of bad weather is not unusual. We are just used to seeing it have to do with lightning or other "wet" related weather incidents.

Schedule games as usual of course. But what is really stopping venues and/or schools and/or conferences and/or NCAA from postponing scheduled day games when it is determined that unsafe "hot" weather issues exist? How is it any different? What's wrong with saying it is too 17ing hot so this game will be postponed until 700pm.

Yes, there are issues of folks that can't stay. Yes there is tv slot issues on the original slot as well as where (and if) the game can be shown at the postponed time. But those issues aren't anything that doesn't occur when a postponement happens for other reasons. They do it all. The . Time.

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Why do people expect others to think for them now? Have we become this stupid? It?s simple as hell. If it is to hot for you then stay home.

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

Weather related delays are for the protection of those on the field, not the ones in the stands. As long as the players have what is needed to keep them hydrated and cool, there is no reason for postponement. You're an adult. It isn't the NCAA or SEC's responsibility to make sure you're comfortable.

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What you is said is true. But to quote Obi-Wan Kenobi... only "from a certain point of view." It all makes perfect sense if it was 30 years ago but now, the sport has overgrown those times to a degree. People are now investing thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars on SINGLE games. Even average fans who feel like the bank is broken paying for outrageously priced seats invests no less. And let's face it, almost every ticket of every game at P5 school is outrageous. The only exceptions may be uninteresting non conference games in the upper decks across the nation. These are no longer "matches" in the sense of non rev sports with a few dozen attendees and the more the merrier. These are now huge events complete with 60K "investors" and "donors." It is not as simple as the "be a big boy and stay home if you want" attitude suggests. Because that's exactly where it leads. Because that's exactly where it leads. Yes, that was typed twice on purpose. Let's turn it around and say, "no, you be a big boy and take of your investors." The investors in these "events" deserve better and their safety absolutely had better be on the mind of schools, conferences, and the especially the NCAA.

While it was hot, yes..... This has turned into nothing but a snowflake country. Hell the guys playing have pads on and are way hotter than you in the stands and they are fine. People act like there has never been a game as hot as yesterday. Good grief. Soft.

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Originally Posted by BulldogBear

What you is said is true. But to quote Obi-Wan Kenobi... only "from a certain point of view." It all makes perfect sense if it was 30 years ago but now, the sport has overgrown those times to a degree. People are now investing thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars on SINGLE games. Even average fans who feel like the bank is broken paying for outrageously priced seats invests no less. And let's face it, almost every ticket of every game at P5 school is outrageous. The only exceptions may be uninteresting non conference games in the upper decks across the nation. These are no longer "matches" in the sense of non rev sports with a few dozen attendees and the more the merrier. These are now huge events complete with 60K "investors" and "donors." It is not as simple as the "be a big boy and stay home if you want" attitude suggests. Because that's exactly where it leads. Because that's exactly where it leads. Yes, that was typed twice on purpose. Let's turn it around and say, "no, you be a big boy and take of your investors." The investors in these "events" deserve better and their safety absolutely had better be on the mind of schools, conferences, and the especially the NCAA.

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Every time I pay my cable bill, I invest. TV deals generate a hell of a lot more revenue than any tickets being sold.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

While it was hot, yes..... This has turned into nothing but a snowflake country. Hell the guys playing have pads on and are way hotter than you in the stands and they are fine. People act like there has never been a game as hot as yesterday. Good grief. Soft.

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The players have access to misters and water among other things as well. Fans in a lot of instances don't or don't have access to it as conveniently.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

The players have access to misters and water among other things as well. Fans in a lot of instances don't or don't have access to it as conveniently.

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Then make a stadium rule where if temps are over say 85 at kickoff, you can bring in a cooler that's no bigger than 12"x12" or something

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Then make a stadium rule where if temps are over say 85 at kickoff, you can bring in a cooler that's no bigger than 12"x12" or something

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You can already bring in water bottles and refill them for free (at least in the 300s).

There are ways.... FOr sure.

Again, a retractable awning, if you would, will lower temps drastically.


HOWEVER... Can I please just point out that the people before us.... What did they ever do? This is not something new.

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Originally Posted by MrKotter

Why do people expect others to think for them now? Have we become this stupid? It?s simple as hell. If it is to hot for you then stay home.

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I've been saying this for years. If young, old, in poor health or very out of shape, watch September day games from on a TV.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

The players have access to misters and water among other things as well. Fans in a lot of instances don't or don't have access to it as conveniently.

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I agree w this. But they have more than 10, 20 30 years ago. That's all I'm saying

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

I've been saying this for years. If young, old, in poor health or very out of shape, watch September day games from on a TV.

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I agree, but I can also see people wanting to use the tickets they pay dearly for

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Originally Posted by Coach007

There are ways.... FOr sure.

Again, a retractable awning, if you would, will lower temps drastically.


HOWEVER... Can I please just point out that the people before us.... What did they ever do? This is not something new.

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Now this we can agree with!!!!

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I agree, but I can also see people wanting to use the tickets they pay dearly for

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I understand, but your health or the health of a loved one is not worth risking.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Then make a stadium rule where if temps are over say 85 at kickoff, you can bring in a cooler that's no bigger than 12"x12" or something

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That's kind of where I was going with it the more I got to thinking about it. When it's stupid hot, just let people bring in plenty of stuff for goodness sake. During the "screening" check for weapons and then send people on their way, even if they've got 15 gatorade bottles.

You fellas are acting like it was 120 degrees out there. Hell it couldn?t have been no more than a 115

I think you make a good point. I had the same thoughts on the drive home. We can stop a game for lightening miles away but not potential heat stroke. Games moved for hurricanes. All kids of events. Just show another game in the Slot. Move the day game to night. Not that hard.


For the guy saying toughen up, I sat through that whole game. So I?m not soft. But that crowd Saturday was pathetic. So if you advise people to Make adult decisions, get ready for crowds and atmosphere similar to the mid 80s.

Don?t get upset either when this Saturday?s game is extremely lame and basically a neutral environment for Kstate.

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Originally Posted by Treemydawg

You fellas are acting like it was 120 degrees out there. Hell it couldn?t have been no more than a 115

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115 in the student section yesterday confirmed already

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Then make a stadium rule where if temps are over say 85 at kickoff, you can bring in a cooler that's no bigger than 12"x12" or something

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That would help. I wonder if they could install misters that attach to the upper deck and then to the front of the first row that shoot mist over the lower deck of the east and west sides? May not be possible. They could build a cover for the upper deck and then attach fans under the roof. The Cardinals have that in some covered sections of Busch Stadium.

I have to believe that the technology is there to keep Davis Wade cooler during 100+ heat index days.

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

I think you make a good point. I had the same thoughts on the drive home. We can stop a game for lightening miles away but not potential heat stroke. Games moved for hurricanes. All kids of events. Just show another game in the Slot. Move the day game to night. Not that hard.


For the guy saying toughen up, I sat through that whole game. So I?m not soft. But that crowd Saturday was pathetic. So if you advise people to Make adult decisions, get ready for crowds and atmosphere similar to the mid 80s.

Don?t get upset either when this Saturday?s game is extremely lame and basically a neutral environment for Kstate.

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A lot of people don't take heat related advisories seriously enough. It's an issue throughout the entire SEC.

Stop being a *****. It?s been this hot in Sept. since there was football.

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Originally Posted by BulldogBear

Pay attention SEC and NCAA. I can't believe lawyers aren't all over this already.

Postponing a game because of bad weather is not unusual. We are just used to seeing it have to do with lightning or other "wet" related weather incidents.

Schedule games as usual of course. But what is really stopping venues and/or schools and/or conferences and/or NCAA from postponing scheduled day games when it is determined that unsafe "hot" weather issues exist? How is it any different? What's wrong with saying it is too 17ing hot so this game will be postponed until 700pm.

Yes, there are issues of folks that can't stay. Yes there is tv slot issues on the original slot as well as where (and if) the game can be shown at the postponed time. But those issues aren't anything that doesn't occur when a postponement happens for other reasons. They do it all. The . Time.

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Dude, what the **** is wrong with you?!

Postpone a game because of heat....drink....water and an electrolyte drink!

If you?re not willing to do that stay home. What the **** is wrong with you?!

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

A lot of people don't take heat related advisories seriously enough. It's an issue throughout the entire SEC.

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Yeah....it’s serious because the dumbasses don’t take it serious!!!! Not the NCAA or SEC responsibility. Take responsibility for yourself, like a grownup.

Gayest thread ever.

I worked out a 14U girls softball team today from 2:00-5:30. Not a single one of them complained about the heat. WTF has happened to grown men these days that make them complain about going to a hot game? Jesus!

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I worked out a 14U girls softball team today from 2:00-5:30. Not a single one of them complained about the heat. WTF has happened to grown men these days that make them complain about going to a hot game? Jesus!

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Bc you don't have a team full of snowflakes.....it's nuts. It's hot. No shit. It's September in Mississippi!

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I worked out a 14U girls softball team today from 2:00-5:30. Not a single one of them complained about the heat. WTF has happened to grown men these days that make them complain about going to a hot game? Jesus!

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Do you want a real answer? If I give it I?ll probably be banned by the easily triggered mods.

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Originally Posted by SPMT

Dude, what the **** is wrong with you?!

Postpone a game because of heat....drink....water and an electrolyte drink!

If you?re not willing to do that stay home. What the **** is wrong with you?!

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Nothing's wrong with me you leaf eater. I went and will go this Saturday. The phrase "suck it up buttercup" literally exits my mouth 5 times or so a day. But I also witnessed people falling out and it's not something to make light of. Spare us the "grow up" mantra. Read every post in the thread before you start ascribing intent. And if you think everything went smoothly yesterday, then YOU WEREN'T THERE. Yes, it was hot. Yes, some of us can take it. But there's nothing wrong with wanting everyone to have a better experience. And there's nothing wrong with expecting "investors" to get a better product.

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

Every time I pay my cable bill, I invest. TV deals generate a hell of a lot more revenue than any tickets being sold.

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I think this is the real truth of it.

But it shouldn't be, and that's the only thing I'm really complaining about. It can be handled better. And should be.

My problem with it is..... it makes for a sucky atmosphere. Small crowd. Little tailgating.

Wow I see the real men**** are out and about here.

I personally want an atmosphere where we pack out the entire stadium and everyone is able to enjoy the game without having to worry about dehydration or worse making a decision between their own health and watching / supporting their school. I want a stadium experience that gives fans reasonable entry times and reasonable wait times for concessions. It’s not a hard concept. Not wanting to have to wait for more than 10 minutes for the ability to drink water in 115? degree heat index does not make someone a snowflake. These are fans not players ffs. They aren’t out here training to sit in 100? weather with no water to be able to survive watching and entire game at the stadium without missing anything because you can’t wait in line and watch on tv because they have the alabama game on.

How can asking for a better fan experience make someone a *****. We’re the consumer. Our pockets fund the sport. Provide a decent experience or watch those ticket sales decrease more and more. The stadium being that bare halfway through a 14 point game is extremely discouraging to see. Especially when you know it’s not the product on the field causing it.

Why is ole miss always ahead of us when it comes to forward thinking on issues like this? Did you see the tents they had set up yesterday INSIDE the stadium to provide shade for their fans? We wouldn?t have come up with this in 100 years. I just don?t get it. Strickland needs to wake the hell up or we will fall further behind them. I?m about done with our hole bunch.

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Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips

Why is ole miss always ahead of us when it comes to forward thinking on issues like this? Did you see the tents they had set up yesterday INSIDE the stadium to provide shade for their fans? We wouldn?t have come up with this in 100 years. I just don?t get it. Strickland needs to wake the hell up or we will fall further behind them. I?m about done with our hole bunch.

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They put up the tents when their party deck was condemned smh poor ole misttipi tate

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I worked out a 14U girls softball team today from 2:00-5:30. Not a single one of them complained about the heat. WTF has happened to grown men these days that make them complain about going to a hot game? Jesus!

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Because there was no alternative to the softball tournament. There is an alternative to sitting in a hot stadium. It's called ESPN and the SEC Network. For me personally, I see zero reason I would go to a hot stadium when I could enjoy the game from my big screen TV in the air conditioning, with access to food/beverages and a restroom. No paying for parking either.

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Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips

Why is ole miss always ahead of us when it comes to forward thinking on issues like this? Did you see the tents they had set up yesterday INSIDE the stadium to provide shade for their fans? We wouldn?t have come up with this in 100 years. I just don?t get it. Strickland needs to wake the hell up or we will fall further behind them. I?m about done with our hole bunch.

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Strickland???

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

Strickland???

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So it seems there are three primary schools of thought in this thread:

1. Convince 40-63k people to suck it up and risk death to give a normal amount of energy and noise for a game. Ideas to convince a ton of people to change their entire demeanor and put their health at risk for the sake of the game include calling them gay, calling them pussies, and letting them know how it was back in my day.

2. Do something about the heat to create a more welcome and safe and energetic environment for the players and fans. Ideas include a UW like awning, delaying games for heat advisory, and doing more for water stations in the concourse.

3. Do nothing. 45k lathargic and miserable fans for a game vs a P5 opponent is fine.

Tough call.

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Originally Posted by MrKotter

Why do people expect others to think for them now? Have we become this stupid? It?s simple as hell. If it is to hot for you then stay home.

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Exactly. Or if you don't have enough sense to find some shade then you should stay your ass at home. My dog can even understand this concept and pull it off without me having to tell her.

People acting like the heat is some new unexplained phenomenon or something. Pathetic.

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Originally Posted by BulldogDX55

So it seems there are three primary schools of thought in this thread:

1. Convince 40-63k people to suck it up and risk death to give a normal amount of energy and noise for a game. Ideas to convince a ton of people to change their entire demeanor and put their health at risk for the sake of the game include calling them gay, calling them pussies, and letting them know how it was back in my day.

2. Do something about the heat to create a more welcome and safe and energetic environment for the players and fans. Ideas include a UW like awning, delaying games for heat advisory, and doing more for water stations in the concourse.

3. Do nothing. 45k lathargic and miserable fans for a game vs a P5 opponent is fine.

Tough call.

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I grew up in the 70's like a lot of you and when we played little league baseball in 100+ heat, the coaches barely gave you a sip of water because they didn't want you to "cramp up". Well we've come a long way since then and no sense in being stupid for the sake of acting tough. No one enjoys sitting through a day game like Saturday, but since tv contracts determine start times, it looks like some hot day games are inevitable. That being said, our administration can do simple things that wouldn't cost a ton of money to make sitting in the sun tolerable. One thing that works is these "water misters" that you see outside some restaurants in places like Florida and Las Vegas where the temp gets scorching. Another thing I see at golf course is buckets of ice water that you can dip towels in to decrease body temperature. They have them at Old Waverly and it's amazing how good they work. How hard could that be?