http://gridironnow.com/cole-smith-ls...issippi-state/
Pretty sobering.
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http://gridironnow.com/cole-smith-ls...issippi-state/
Pretty sobering.
Wasn't the gun stealing hat hurler a DL?
Isn't jake the guy that broke down our film every week to find a missed assignment then explain it like John madden only to find out later he had no idea of our assignments?
Suck it hevesy, you deserve the boos. Mullen, wtf?
Ole Miss recruited him as an o-lineman. He was an OL/DL prospect as a recruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenureplan
Aren't you the guy that defends Hevesy every thread despite mounting evidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We were taking him as a DT. So that's not an OL miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenureplan
This "mounting evidence" is the same thing that's been said here every day for like 5 years. Just bc State Farm Jake said it doesn't give it more credence. Hev needs to recruit better... who has said he doesn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Of course it is... Gdammit we get it, our OL sucks, our OL recruiting sucks, our OL coordinator sucks... give it a 17'n rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
The misses we actually signed on that list is depressing. And why people are irate for not offering a legacy that LSU wants
It's just laziness. Plain and simple.
maybe we should start cheating in recruiting.
I dont buy the whole staff recruiting thing. At the end of the day the athlete is going to choose the position coach he likes most. What OL is going to come to Mississippi State because he loved the WR coach? That argument is stupid. Once our staff has identified these kids and get them on campus its up to Hevesy to close and close he does not do.
Cheat? How about just not be lazy and rude and try to recruit that way first?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Overall, it's an obvious, lazy article that any message board member could write over half a lunch break. But this is what you get from today's "journalists". There's better posts on this board by people who have day jobs. Would've been a better article had the author factored in Juco OL from MS who went to other places like Gennessy who started at OT for TXAM. That & showed kids who actually went to a MS high school and ended up in the NFL via college other than SEC ~ that would be a great article and more telling of the actual talent in MS and kind of what you would expect from someone who makes a living doing this.
so Wommack & Lashley could be our starting tackles right now? I wonder where they rank on Bama's depth chart. Those two really hurt. Time will tell.
hindsight, I'd say top 3 OL on that list are: Gabe Jackson ~ 4 year starter, Steen ~ multiple year starter, I guess Shon Coleman b/c he made it to the NFL, I guess but so did Clausell, but he never stuck. Some of those recent guys are still in college though. Am I reading this correctly in that the only guy on that entire list that has made a living playing is Gabe?
Is Coleman the only guy we didn't sign who made it to the NFL? did Steen?
But yeah, 2011 was pretty bad and overall no star players. I wonder how much OM paid Morris & Bell as those two would've made a difference and probably wanted to go to MSU. Who of those OM signees would've have a better career had they not taken OM's $? Taylor & Patterson are short...Morris, maybe?
Our 2016 class needs more production than the 2011 class. Would really buck the %s if at least 2 of those 3 actually had good careers and started a few years.
At a minimum, I think the OL big board needs to have two requirements. 1. sign at least 5 OL every year b/c odds are at least 2 will start during their careers & 2. sign exclusively from LA, MS, AL.
I know you're joking, but that would completely turn me off & probably many of the MSU grads. Say what you want, but Mullen's character revealed more to me about he handled the Scam situation that anything else. A once in a lifetime player he let walk b/c he was unwilling to cheat to get him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
But yeah, Mullen just needs to hire a better OL recruiter. Hev is an old grump and probably good at coaching them, but sub par recruiter.
Has Looney recruited good OL during his college career at other places?
Jake is a good guy, calls games for us at Brandon. He knows his stuff. To be fair, no fan knows exactly what our assignments are on every single play. Jake was just pointing out garbage effort which is something that everybody should do.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Our OL recruiting has gotten better since 2014 but its still the main thing holding us back from going to ATL. We may not do it even with an elite OL. Its hard to do with Saban down the road. I think this years OL has the POTENTIAL to be one of our better groups but we shall see
Hard to argue facts. This is the reason it's hard to get totally excited about football. Everyone in the known universe admits it's a problem yet we do nothing.
Wish I was good enough to post that pic of hevesy with a caption of "wanna be my friend?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by justwin
SMH.
Yes I was joking but Freeze said and I heard him say that he learned how to recruit from Coach O. Well we know how Freeze recruits ($).Quote:
Originally Posted by justwin
It is still early in the process and Mullen is good for at least one rabbit out of the hat trick every signing day.
2018 has the potential to be a really good group. In 2017, it will take us a long time to gel with all the new faces and Hev moving them around until two weeks before the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTHOM
I understand that we want depth and that when we are thin at the position that means guys needing to know multiple positions. However, a better plan is to recruit well enough to have two deep at every position, even if a couple of the backups are young.
This pretty much nails it. It is apparent that a lot of good offensive linemen don't want to play for Hevesy. Mullen is sacrificing the team potential to be really good by his unwavering friendship.Quote:
Originally Posted by state66
When this site needs to generate clicks, just start a thread about the OL. Pretty much the same ole same ole. Nothing changes....guess it make some folks feel better to regurgitate the same stuff over and over. Must cleanse their system....
We havent lacked for clicks since the day we startedQuote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
My bad....should have said to increase clicks....
Seems like yesterday the board was asking for clicks to raise money for kids or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
I have a question: Were we actually recruiting Cole Smith? It doesn't seem he was that high a profile recruit until last week. LSU and Oregon offered last week and those are still evidently his only Power 5 offers. This one is just really strange all the way around.
we ask for people to click on the ads to help support the site in lieu of asking people to donate money to pay for the site fees and its maintenance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
We dont ask for people to click threads.
Well that is what everybody is curious about. As shitty as our OL recruiting has been- why arent we recruiting him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Yep, Coach O wrote the book on "making mistakes".Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
I don't think he has but four offers, none in state or from Memphis. It's just strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
I don't know but the kid is a legacy and from right up the road so what is strange is why the heck we haven't offered? I mean, hell's bells, its not like we ought to be ultra picky when recruiting OL. We already know that Hev is not going to get the "top targets" on the board anyway. Its never happened any other year so why would it this year? I'd be willing to bet that we won't sign an OL this recruiting cycle with more than 2 other P5 offers besides ours (as per usual) so committing a guy with an Oregon and LSU offer looks pretty dang good to me even if he never got another one. Vast majority of OL Hev signs do not have ANY P5 offers besides ours!Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
I don't know how reliable the article is, but it states he's one of the top 10 centers in the nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
USM and Memphis aren't P5 and they haven't offered him either. Memphis is just up the road too.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
And they probably shouldn't bother. They have a near zero chance to get him anyway when he has an LSU and Oregon offer on the table. So to me whether they've offered or not is irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
They hadn't offered before those either. This guy may be good, but there wasn't much interest before, and still isn't from what it looks like. It's just weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Our entire OL evaluation process is garbage. We couldn't identify a quality OL in a line-up of NFL all pros. We don't just miss, we sign shitty OL. Our belief that we can get by with mediocre OL is on Mullen.
I haven't been on this site very long but should it be renamed to http://WWW.ElitedawgsBitchingIncessa...Recruiting.com because if that is the case i will take my clicks elsewhere.