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I know everyone here hates the triple option, but I think I'd like it when Mullen does move on. This state would produce great option qb's and rb's
GT just looks like a nightmare to defend. I've still got nightmares about that Orange Bowl.
I do wonder though, would Bama or LSU be even more unbeatable if they ran GT's offense?
I realize they won't ever do that because it would hurt recruiting, but it just seems like if the offense works this well for inferior talent, how well would it work for superior talent?
I do think we'd be pretty dirty with it, especially if no one else ran it.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I doubt LSU or Bama would go to it because it would hurt their WR & OL recruiting, but, since we can't recruit good OL or WRs anyway, it would seem to be a good fit us.
That being said, I think it's difficult to improve your brand or national profile by going to that offense.
It would hurt us with wr's, olinemen, and obviously big time qb's, but RBs would come. An option qb would be no problem recruiting Mississippi and Alabama. Oline is about technique in the system, thus great talent isn't a necessity. I would love to play defense for an option team... lots of rest between drivesQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I say this as being someone who really loves the wishbone, and was a huge fan of Erk Russell and what he did at Georgia Southern - The problem with running the Triple option is that it is seen as a system to does not produce athletes that go on to the next level. Especially at QB. Because of this, you limit the athletes willing to choose your program.
I do wish we would incorporate some of it into our down and distance running game. I've seen Fitz run it, and it is beautiful.
Not sure about that. Pretty sure GT had both Megatron and Demaryius Thomas as WRs, while running the triple option. Granted they changed after Johnson was on campus, but they've produced some high quality WRs running the option.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
If '18 is our year to compete again, could you imagine if we broke it out to start a game vs lsu, bama, or auburn? It would be a total shock and most likely steal us a td or 2 before they could adjustQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
NFL loves big physical wr's that can block. They'll certainly learn to block and they'll also hit a bunch of hr'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
Back to the game - Tech looks good. I've known their Safeties coach my whole life. Great guy and coach. Hope the Jackets pull it out.
Why does GT have chicken wire on their helmets?
LSU and unbeatable have no business being in the same sentence.
Also, They just hired a half wit as their head football coach. They just became even more beatable.
The Spread is a modern version of the Triple Option.... watching Air Force yesterday their offense was actually pretty fun to watch....With Fitz you could easily incorporate more Triple option into the game plan ....
That's supposed to be honeycomb inspired.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And the correct term is "poultry containment units". Chicken wire is so gouache.
LSU just hired a real OC. They are going to be even harder to beat now
I agree with this. Need to get them a real qb nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Maybe. They are going to have to upgrade from Etling to make leaps of progress & open things up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
The biggest issue I see at LSU is, if Aranda or Canada have any real success, both are going to be top head coaching candidates extremely quick.
This is the dice you roll when you hire a head coach that is not an elite coordinator on one side of the ball. My guess is that Orgeron has to replace both coordinators in the next three years. If not, LSU probably isn't much better than they are now.
Orgeron is going to have a tough time maintaining an identity, whereas as head coaches that have real expertise on side of the ball like Saban, Meyer, Dantonio, Petrino, etc don't have that issue.
They may take a step forward offensively, but I expect there to be instability there.
This is why Stoops will never turn the corner. Doesn't have the temperament
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Yeah, I say aranda rides key to a HC job next seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Yup. If Geoff Collins just got the Temple job, I fully expect Aranda to get a similar type job next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
As for Canada, if he turns around LSU's offense, he's going to be Lane Kiffin without the baggage. Which means he'll be a head coach within a year or two. I just see LSU being an unstable situation for Eddy O. His greatest skill at LSU will have to be his hiring ability.
Well if he's turning coordinators into HCs and continuing to recruit big time, I think getting the best coordinators could be pretty easyQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
They are also right in the middle of the ATL and that helps recruit a few players also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
And thats fine. When they are both successful- LSU will have an easy time replacing them with another top coordinator. They have the money to pay and its easy to recruit there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
They have to roll with Etling/Harris one more year- while they bring more QB talent in. With their OL and WR talent- plus Guice- they will score enough most nights to win games in 2017. Hell, if Etling starts the season at QB- they end up 9-2 instead of 7-4
Coach O already lost out on the top QB in Louisiana this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Meanwhile, he punted on 4th and 6, down 17 points on the opponents 36 yard line. What an idiot these college coaches are..except you Pat Fitzgerald.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
LSU isn't such an amazing job. They were never that great before Saban, and their decline will be accelerated now.
For someone who cites historical records of MSU baseball all the time, and claims we are not a top 5 program (which i happen to agree with) you certainly have to see that LSU really isn't a historic football power. Now they have hired a buffoon to run the program. I do not see a bright future for the Tigers.
However, I do think Canada is a good coordinator
Wow, this is just incredible. Do you really feel that way? I need to give up message boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
Yes I do. I don't get why people think LSU is so unstoppable.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I don't think they're unstoppable and I don't think winning big is a given for them, but they do have more potential than 95% of college football teams. They have money, great fans, facilities, and a great recruiting base with no in-state rivalQuote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
depends on the service- Narcisse is rated higher on someQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I think both will be outstanding players
I agree with you. They have potential, but they always have had this potential and really didn't do much with it until Saban got there. I think it is a good job, but certainly not the best like some on this board claim it to be. For example, I think Tennessee is a pretty comparable job to LSU, but no one on the this board thinks they are worth a crap. LSU just gets a level of respect that I do not think is deserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
They recruit top 6-7 in the countryQuote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
They have one of the country's top DC'
They now have a competent OC and have rid themselves of Miles/Cam 1990's offense
O will have those SOB's playing hard every week
B/C there is no comparison between the talent in the state of LA and the talent in TN. And almost every kid in LA grows up dreaming about becoming a Tiger. Then they go to TX, MS, or almost anywhere to finish up their class with 4 star plus talent. The LSU job is easily a Top 5 job, and probably a Top 3 job.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
I don't think LSU & Tennessee are anywhere near being the same job.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
LSU has pronounced recruiting advantages over Tennessee & equal fan support.
LSU is the best job in the SEC IMO. I believe from a geographical sense it's easier to acquire talent at LSU than all other schools in the country except maybe USC & Ohio State.
At Alabama, FSU, Texas, Florida, Georgia,etc, you have to battle tons of other local programs to get talent, &, in Bama's case, you have to recruit nationally to compete at an elite level. At LSU you don't.
Now a coach like Saban & Fisher off set LSU's advantage, but, if FSU, Bama, LSU, Florida, & Georgia all had average coaches, I think LSU would be the best team.
Bama is the best job in the SEC
Then I'd say LSU with Florida and Georgia close behind. Then comes Auburn and A&M
It's a difficult comparison because Alabama has had far greater coaches than LSU. I just think at the core, it's more difficult at Bama because you are always having to beat someone out for players. At LSU, for 3/4 of your recruiting class, you don't have to beat anyone out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
It's a good debate.
I think Florida is the best jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
And Bruce's point is that LSU - like a lot of schools- is one bad hire away from being back as an also-ran in the SEC. It may have all of those perceived advantages as power school, but until Saban they were not able to put all those pieces together for more than a 2-3 year period.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
If Farmer Fran goes 8-4, 8-4, 7-5 and gets fired, LSU will have gone 6 years since a 10 win season - which means they will be recruiting kids who don't know them as a power school but as an also ran. It can start a spiral of mediocrity- especially if say Texas, AU or another school that recruits LA heavy replaces LSU as a "power" winning 10+ every year.
I seem to remember seeing something similar to this before the season about LSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
"9 NFL draft picks on D"
"#1 overall pick at RB"
"Blah Blah Blah"
But what really happened was another 4 loss season
Another loss to Saban
Another non Big 6 bowl
and a fired coach replaced by Ogeron
Every kid in LA does not dreaming of playing for LSU. For example take our current QB recruit