Vs Saban has now totaled a robust 63 points in 8 games. 7.9 PPG
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Vs Saban has now totaled a robust 63 points in 8 games. 7.9 PPG
Since '11, lsu has scored 69 points in 7 games vs bama. 9.9 ppg
Not that it would have made the first bit of difference but I know in Saturday's game we left at least 17 points on the table we should have had if not for a missed FG and a couple of drops. I admit we had zero shot in that game, but the final score should have looked a little better if you can call 51-20 a little better. It just looks like all of our coaches and players go into that game pissing in their pants scared to death every year. We're beat mentally as soon as we step off the bus.
Absolutely no excuse for LSU, but LSU only gave up 10 points this year.
Since dan got to state, bama has given up 12.7 ppg... as in to everyone!
That's exactly what I was saying in an earlier thread. Under Dan, the approach to Bama is simply "we expect to lose", and apparently that's fine with everybody. Against Bama, we play scared, and coach scared. If we are going to lose, let's go down fighting...trick plays, blitzing, onside kicks, fake punts, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34
Well, OM did not get the memo. OM has no running game, but they have approached Bama with the attitude that they CAN win.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
They have also approached that game with elite receivers. We have noneQuote:
Originally Posted by Thick
That's why as long as Saban is at Bama, I refuse to use them as a measuring stick for where our program is. Hell, I'll so far as to say that based on our history against Bama I'll never use them as a measuring stick. It's futile. In 97 games against them, we have averaged 9.7 ppg. They have outscored us 2268-994.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
16-78-3 record against them. They have been in our heads since football was invented.
Offensive genius!1!1!
OM gets Bama early in the season while they're still working out the kinks, we get them near the end at their peak. Not a fair comparison. I'd be interested to see a plot of Bama's points allowed each week of each season under Saban... may do that later if I get a free minute.
Random is basically saying unless we are in the Top 5 every year we need to get rid of Mullen. I wonder if his high school season is over will he resign this year?
All he did was post a fact. A very sad fact. I hate that other people are fine with it. We can do better than what we saw Saturday and what we've seen all year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Thank you for this. Apparently there are some that think Dan is the only one that can't do well against Bama. Plus...I do find it somewhat amusing that the OM wins are constantly thrown out there but in the next sentence....OM is going to get hammered for cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Definitely Pee Pee Pants City and Saban is swinging Lucille.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34
Fred Ross is pretty good when he actually catches the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC3
It's a sad fact. Would it be better if we if we avg'd 9.9 ppg like lsu their last 7 games vs bama or 12.7 ppg like bama's avg since dan got here? I'd love to beat bama, but it's just not something that should be a barometer at miss state imo. Saban is 96-10 with 5 sec championships and 4 national titles since Mullen got here.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We can certainly do better than what we have seen in some of the games this year. That being said Alabama is in a different universe it is pretty dumb to freak out over a team that has shut down everybody they have played.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Bama is on an entirely different level but it looks like the first time we get hit in the mouth we quit against Bama. Dan seems to play not to lose more than he risks and against Bama that is an absolute losing strategy. I don't think there is a coach that could have won with our players on Saturday but not many could have done worse. That is coming from someone who wants Mullen back next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We scored 1/3rd of those points in 2014.
Is anyone more constantly anti-Mullen than random?Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
So we are comparing Mullen to the guy that got fired because of his archaic offense??? You aren't helping your cause with that replyQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Man, I hate when posters just make up straw man arguments like saying that beating Bama shouldn't be the barometer at MSU. No one is saying that.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I think we should expect a little more competiveness than what we saw Saturday. That was pathetic.
Random is in no way, shape, or form saying that. I have said repeatedly that Mullen won't and shouldn't be firedQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
He's a troll. The sooner everyone realizes this, the better off we'll be.
Lsu '13 had the best collection of offensive talent this conference has seen maybe ever and they scored 17.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Ole Miss put 43 on them THIS year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah, I don't let the Bama game influence my thoughts on our program one bit. That would be insane. Now, the other 11 games are a different story. There is plenty to gripe about, and losing to Bam in 2014 is one of those, but even paying attention to that game right now is useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You forgot to put an asterisk on it. If we were holding 8 level 1 infractions and another letter on the way, we probably would've fared better vs bama, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
This is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I actually thought the offensive gameplan was very good on Sat. But the defensive effort and intensity was some of the worst we've had in the last decade. Guys playing soft, not running to the ball, giving up on plays, etc.
Alabama's defense has given up 6 TDs this season.
I hate all the turnover we have had with our defensive staff under Mullen, but he's going to have to clean house again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroons
yet you come on here and DECLARE the owners of this board no longer support him .... the support from the majority of the fan base is overwhelming in support of himQuote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
I think we all can agree that beating Bama under Saban is a long shot, but there is a shot (see OM). The thing that drives me nuts is the lack of physicality and aggression necessary to help compensate for difference in talent. Even Bear Bryant conceded that every time they played Miss State his guys would have to spent time in the whirlpool to work out the bruises. Not to beat a dead horse, but it all starts on the line. You can't have O linemen continually being stood up and driven backwards right into the QB like we saw in Saturday's game. On the defensive side, the DL didn't have the depth to play 4 quarters with Bama. Recruiting on the lines has got to be an imperative if this program is to move forward and be competitive in the SEC West.
Wasn't this board calling for Mullen to start gameplanning for om before the aTm game and asking should we rest starters vs bama for the Arkansas and om games? There was a surrender before the game starts atmosphere here before the game started and when we get smoked some of the same ones (not you) are mad at the lack of competitivenessQuote:
Originally Posted by TaleofTwoDogs
Yep. And we won't until he makes some changes. There is a lot going on- not just posts on a message boardQuote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
That's wrong - they have given up 12. 9 passing and 3 rushing. 3 passing and 1 rushing in OM game and 3 passing and 1 rushing in Ark game. Other than those 2 games, they have given up a whopping 3 passing and 1 rushing TD in 8 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg1
I and others said we should spend 5-10 minutes a practice on OM. Considering the team practices 2 hours- you realize that is a very small percentage of time? Nobody said completely ignore the other teams on our schedule.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Do you always get what people say wrong or just me?
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Originally Posted by Random Poster
To this point...if Mullen is here next year, which I'm slowly leaning in the direction of this being best, will actual changes be made? Offensive coaching changes? Defensive mindset changes? Preparation changes?
What type of changes are we looking at?
Got to be some coaching changes. Staff status quo is not workingQuote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe