Malik Newman

He really not coming back? Is this guy stupid or something? Someone explain it to me please. Is he spoiled and doesn't accept hard facts of life? Is his daddy sheltering him from reality? Wtf is going on here. Why is an obvious upcoming undrafted player choosing to go undrafted? Been hanging with Bear Wilson.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft

Where are you getting he is defiinitly not coming back? He hasn't even gone to the NBA workouts yet. I don't think we will know anything definitively until after that one way or another.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

He really not coming back? Is this guy stupid or something? Someone explain it to me please. Is he spoiled and doesn't accept hard facts of life? Is his daddy sheltering him from reality? Wtf is going on here. Why is an obvious upcoming undrafted player choosing to go undrafted? Been hanging with Bear Wilson.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2016mock_draft

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Please explain the purpose of this thread to me. There is nothing new on Newman, he will go through the process and make a decision.

And if you click on the 2017 mock draft on that little link you shared, you'll see they project him to be drafted next year. Meaning even the link you provided for this post believes he'll return to school.

I don't think he is coming back. Whether its the right decision or not is up for debate but I think he won't be coming back.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Please explain the purpose of this thread to me. There is nothing new on Newman, he will go through the process and make a decision.

And if you click on the 2017 mock draft on that little link you shared, you'll see they project him to be drafted next year. Meaning even the link you provided for this post believes he'll return to school.

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Personally, I think he comes back unless a team promises to draft him in the first round which is very possible considering he is fully healthy.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Please explain the purpose of this thread to me.

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To spark discussion on a player before he ****s his NBA career up. Not just let him do it like Bear Wilson.

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Originally Posted by JOHNHEVESYMADE

I don't think he is coming back. Whether its the right decision or not is up for debate but I think he won't be coming back.

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I'm of this same opinion as well.

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Originally Posted by JOHNHEVESYMADE

I don't think he is coming back. Whether its the right decision or not is up for debate but I think he won't be coming back.

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Your opinion of course but if that were the case the prudent thing would be to hire an agent and Malik and Horstio are pretty knowledgeable about the process. I honestly believe Newman will be back if he doesn't like where his position is now.

I can promise this thread will have no effect in Newmans thought process... So all you are doing is ripping a CURRENT PLAYER.

Noone needs to explain anything to you.. No decisions have been made. Let him go through the workouts and make a decision as HE SHOULD DO.

Heard the same- he isn't coming back.

They have their minds made up that he is going to shine at the workouts. And then when he doesn't- he will just go to the D-League and try to make it from there. After years of being told he was "one and done"- they can't accept that not being the case

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Heard the same- he isn't coming back.

They have their minds made up that he is going to shine at the workouts. And then when he doesn't- he will just go to the D-League and try to make it from there. After years of being told he was "one and done"- they can't accept that not being the case

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Agreed. And in the long run it's good for our program as well. If he couldn't make it one & done it reflects badly on Howland's coaching. His dad wants him to be one & done. He wants to be one & done. I know he said he'll come back if he doesn't fall within first round but I don't think he's coming back. He likely will shine at the workouts.

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

I can promise this thread will have no effect in Newmans thought process... So all you are doing is ripping a CURRENT PLAYER.

Noone needs to explain anything to you.. No decisions have been made. Let him go through the workouts and make a decision as HE SHOULD DO.

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The team and other players that could sign with MSU are being held hostage by his process right now. You don't care about their feelings?

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Originally Posted by JOHNHEVESYMADE

I don't think he is coming back. Whether its the right decision or not is up for debate but I think he won't be coming back.

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Then I'm concerned... You're usually plugged in on basketball

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Originally Posted by MSUDawg99

Agreed. And in the long run it's good for our program as well. If he couldn't make it one & done it reflects badly on Howland's coaching. His dad wants him to be one & done. He wants to be one & done. I know he said he'll come back if he doesn't fall within first round but I don't think he's coming back. He likely will shine at the workouts.

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The only way it looks bad is if he goes undrafted this year. Coming back for year two doesn't look bad. Players that thought they were one and done at Kentucky came back for year two then go on to get drafted. I do think though that he will get the promise from some NBA team to be drafted in the first round because he is finally healthy so the point is moot.

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Originally Posted by MSUDawg99

Agreed. And in the long run it's good for our program as well. If he couldn't make it one & done it reflects badly on Howland's coaching. His dad wants him to be one & done. He wants to be one & done. I know he said he'll come back if he doesn't fall within first round but I don't think he's coming back. He likely will shine at the workouts.

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What makes you thing this? He only had one really good game for us this year. He didn't shine in the HS All-Star games last year either..

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Heard the same- he isn't coming back.

They have their minds made up that he is going to shine at the workouts. And then when he doesn't- he will just go to the D-League and try to make it from there. After years of being told he was "one and done"- they can't accept that not being the case

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If true, that is freaking ridiculous. Seriously, how many players voluntarily go to the D-League when they are fully eligible to play D1 basketball? Can't be many. Now even if he wants to go as a second rounder, that I would disagree with but would understand. Going to the D-League I would not.

You've been trying to kick him off the team for months now, so I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this thread

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Originally Posted by engie

You've been trying to kick him off the team for months now, so I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this thread

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Actually it's the exact opposite. Thanks for trying to read my mind again but as usual you're wrong.

I have my own feelings on whether he should go or not. I'll keep them to myself. What I will say is that he will get drafted. It may not be 1st rd but he will get drafted. After that it's up to him to make the most of his situation.

He gone, Newman will not be returning to MSU. Just was not good fit.

If he gets drafted, he'll go pro. If not, he'll transfer. We'll know soon enough

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

What I will say is that he will get drafted.

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Based on what? I have a feeling he will likely get drafted but its iffy at best.

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Originally Posted by Harrydawg

He gone, Newman will not be returning to MSU. Just was not good fit.

If he gets drafted, he'll go pro. If not, he'll transfer. We'll know soon enough

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He can transfer to 50 different schools and it still won't make him a point guard.

He informed the coaches that if he's not a guaranteed first round pick, he's returning to school. Who knows whether or not that'll end up holding true.

Let's just say I'm incredibly curious to see how he does in the pre-draft workout camps

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

He can transfer to 50 different schools and it still won't make him a point guard.

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Haha so true

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Originally Posted by Harrydawg

He gone, Newman will not be returning to MSU. Just was not good fit.

If he gets drafted, he'll go pro. If not, he'll transfer. We'll know soon enough

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He isn't transferring. That would be dumb as hell.

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

He isn't transferring. That would be dumb as hell.

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Hood did it. Good was just as good of an nba prospect too... Maybe better

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Hood did it. Good was just as good of an nba prospect too... Maybe better

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Hood also transfered out of a dumpster fire where teammates were fighting in the stands. Malik isn't transferring to a different school to sit out one year and play another. He is trying to go pro after one year, he isn't waiting two more.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Hood did it. Good was just as good of an nba prospect too... Maybe better

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Hood was getting away from a bad locker room and a walking dead coach. Giving up a year of playing time to go to Duke wasn't a terrible idea for him, as it solidified the chances that he would get drafted. And then his decision was made even easier by Stansbury being replaced with Rick Ray.

Neumann is playing for a well respected coach and will be on a team that has the potential to make noise next year. The only downside to staying at state for Newman is that the back court will be crowded next year, but if that's a problem for him (as opposed to the freshmen), then the NBA is probably a long shot for him.

The competition at draft camps will be better than the SEC. So I'm not sure how he will shine there as some predict.

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

He isn't transferring. That would be dumb as hell.

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Not as dumb as leaving SEC ball to get paid $30,000 riding the bench in D-League ball. Don't be confused for a second either. Newman will ride the bench in the D-League.

Hahaha!! This thread is hilarious. Not a single person on here has one clue if he's coming back or not. Anyone insinuating that he will transfer is talking out of there butt.

If the option to test the waters was not there, Malik would be back no question. BUT since it is so what does he have to lose? He does have much to gain though just from going through the NBA combine. I think he and his father are more intelligent than most think.

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Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs

If the option to test the waters was not there, Malik would be back no question. BUT since it is so what does he have to lose? He does have much to gain though just from going through the NBA combine. I think he and his father are more intelligent than most think.

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I know people that talk to Horatio- their mindset is that he is not returning

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Not as dumb as leaving SEC ball to get paid $30,000 riding the bench in D-League ball. Don't be confused for a second either. Newman will ride the bench in the D-League.

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Some are arguing he'd be in the 300,00 dollar range in the D-league but I have no knowledge of those type contracts.

Malik Newman has elevated the program with his name alone because he is a respected player. To me that's the most important thing in judging our athletes, that he chose to come here and he had some injuries and people got down on him. I expect he will either get drafted or return to accomplish what he wanted to do his first year. I think the dynamics of senior/freshman type team, who will lead? Was odd anyway and Malik never found his role on the team, add injury, add no love. I respect him and hopes he comes back.

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Originally Posted by I_Spy

Malik Newman has elevated the program with his name alone because he is a respected player. To me that's the most important thing in judging our athletes, that he chose to come here and he had some injuries and people got down on him. I expect he will either get drafted or return to accomplish what he wanted to do his first year. I think the dynamics of senior/freshman type team, who will lead? Was odd anyway and Malik never found his role on the team, add injury, add no love. I respect him and hopes he comes back.

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Common sense wins the thread.

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Originally Posted by I_Spy

Malik Newman has elevated the program with his name alone because he is a respected player. To me that's the most important thing in judging our athletes, that he chose to come here and he had some injuries and people got down on him. I expect he will either get drafted or return to accomplish what he wanted to do his first year. I think the dynamics of senior/freshman type team, who will lead? Was odd anyway and Malik never found his role on the team, add injury, add no love. I respect him and hopes he comes back.

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Post more please

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Originally Posted by I_Spy

Malik Newman has elevated the program with his name alone because he is a respected player. To me that's the most important thing in judging our athletes, that he chose to come here and he had some injuries and people got down on him. I expect he will either get drafted or return to accomplish what he wanted to do his first year. I think the dynamics of senior/freshman type team, who will lead? Was odd anyway and Malik never found his role on the team, add injury, add no love. I respect him and hopes he comes back.

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Winner

The issue is that this draft class is extremely weak compared to next years which should be a stud class. He might come back and get a lot better but it still might not help his draft stock at all. The best I've heard percentage wise is 50/50 coming back. I am not optimistic and think he won't be back. All signs point to him going pro.