Dak Attack Update

This may be Germans. If so, I'm still not apologizing... It's your fault for reading it! Ha. I'm not filtering through the other long thread. Read at your own risk.

Dak has a new ride. Everyone knows this. He wanted to go out in it. Boneheaded? Yes. But he has a shiny new toy and wanted to play with it. Which could imply that this is not normal behavior.

A lot of players were with him in the car and in cars around/following him when it happened. They tried to help him get out of it, but probably just added to the confusion. And there was some confusion during the process... Once they got Dak back to the station, the DUI breathalyzer test did not function correctly. Given, there's a very legit chance that Dak was below the legal limit and the charges could be dropped ultimately because of that. If not, I'd expect a decent attorney to get him off. Still a stain on his image and a boneheaded move to put himself anywhere near anything that could result in bad PR for himself, much less potentially ruin his life. However, I'm expecting this to eventually be thrown out due to the confusion at the site and the failure to register at the station.

When can we expect the clarion ledger to report on this*?

There's no BAC level? Yeah that's getting tossed. Unfortunately, the PR deal is done.

Moving on...

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

This may be Germans. If so, I'm still not apologizing... It's your fault for reading it! Ha. I'm not filtering through the other long thread. Read at your own risk.

Dak has a new ride. Everyone knows this. He wanted to go out in it. Boneheaded? Yes. But he has a shiny new toy and wanted to play with it. Which could imply that this is not normal behavior.

A lot of players were with him in the car and in cars around/following him when it happened. They tried to help him get out of it, but probably just added to the confusion. And there was some confusion during the process... Once they got Dak back to the station, the DUI breathalyzer test did not function correctly. Given, there's a very legit chance that Dak was below the legal limit and the charges could be dropped ultimately because of that. If not, I'd expect a decent attorney to get him off. Still a stain on his image and a boneheaded move to put himself anywhere near anything that could result in bad PR for himself, much less potentially ruin his life. However, I'm expecting this to eventually be thrown out due to the confusion at the site and the failure to register at the station.

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Had a feeling we hadn't heard the whole story yet.

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Originally Posted by ckDOG

There's no BAC level? Yeah that's getting tossed. Unfortunately, the PR deal is done.

Moving on...

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Is it though? One call to TMZ could totally flip this around for Dak and not in a bad way.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Is it though? One call to TMZ could totally flip this around for Dak and not in a bad way.

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Not disagreeing, but probably best to just let it die. General public has their minds made up. Just get the charges dropped, get on the horn with your GM contacts and make it right with the folks that are going to pay your salary next year.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

This may be Germans. If so, I'm still not apologizing... It's your fault for reading it! Ha. I'm not filtering through the other long thread. Read at your own risk.

Dak has a new ride. Everyone knows this. He wanted to go out in it. Boneheaded? Yes. But he has a shiny new toy and wanted to play with it. Which could imply that this is not normal behavior.

A lot of players were with him in the car and in cars around/following him when it happened. They tried to help him get out of it, but probably just added to the confusion. And there was some confusion during the process... Once they got Dak back to the station, the DUI breathalyzer test did not function correctly. Given, there's a very legit chance that Dak was below the legal limit and the charges could be dropped ultimately because of that. If not, I'd expect a decent attorney to get him off. Still a stain on his image and a boneheaded move to put himself anywhere near anything that could result in bad PR for himself, much less potentially ruin his life. However, I'm expecting this to eventually be thrown out due to the confusion at the site and the failure to register at the station.

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I'm still trying to understand what warranted the stop? Wreckless driving? Weaving all over the road? I hope it was more than he was out in his new ride. So are you saying they had a breathalyzer at the scene but not functioning at the station or they didn't have one at all? I mean I will just say it, from my time as an MSU student (and granted that's been quite a while), my opinion of the SPD and how they operate is not very high. Mostly just sat right off campus and targeted students for whatever they could think up back in the day to collect money.

Excellent post. Either way, I'm proud of Dak for not trying to make excuses for himself. If this DUI turns out to be thrown out, it shows he's the bigger man by not blaming anybody but himself.

Was it a road block? That would potentially explain a lot here as well.

Bonner just updated, very interesting. Rosebowl covered this on BSR a bit earlier.

SPD has always considered students a revenue stream.

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Originally Posted by ckDOG

There's no BAC level? Yeah that's getting tossed. Unfortunately, the PR deal is done.

Moving on...

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Yep. Don't matter now, NFL doesn't care about his BAC limit, all they know is that he drank and drive.

Best thing is to put it behind him.

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Originally Posted by SDDawg

Was it a road block? That would potentially explain a lot here as well.

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SPD made me walk home (two blocks) when the guy I was riding with got popped with a DUI going through a road block. They asked me if I could drive the vehicle home. Luckily I was smart enough not to take that bait.

Front page of Columbus paper today.

Dak: 'I'll show the true man I am'

by: Ben Wait
March 14, 2016 10:44:09 AM

STARKVILLE -- Former Mississippi State University quarterback Dak Prescott issued a statement Sunday, one day after being arrested for driving under the influence.

"I want to make a statement, and first take complete responsibility for my actions," Prescott's statement read. "I'm very remorseful for my misjudgment. I want to apologize to my true supporters, my family, Mississippi State University, the NFL and the kids who look up to me. I won't ask for forgiveness; however I'll show the true man I am and exhibit my character through my actions and behavior moving forward."

Officers with the Starkville Police Department pulled Prescott over early Saturday. The 22-year-old was driving near the Cotton District, according to Frank Nichols, SPD chief. He was arrested about 12:45 a.m. Saturday.

He posted bond and was released, according to a SPD statement issued about 10:30 p.m. Saturday.

SPD officials told The Dispatch this morning the department would release no other details about the arrest. Officials with Starkville Municipal Court told The Dispatch this morning the court did not yet have an affidavit related to Prescott's arrest.

During his college career, Prescott broke every passing record at MSU and owns 38 school records (15 career, 15 single-season and eight single-game). He participated in MSU's pro day Thursday and was projected to be drafted anywhere between the second and fourth rounds of next month's NFL draft prior to the incident.

Prescott is from Haughton, Louisiana

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

Yep. Don't matter now, NFL doesn't care about his BAC limit, all they know is that he drank and drive.

Best thing is to put it behind him.

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The NFL has employed players with questionable ties to murder, hard drugs, physical abuse, etc. They do not care about one DUI.

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Originally Posted by PassInterference

The NFL has employed players with questionable ties to murder, hard drugs, physical abuse, etc. They do not care about one DUI.

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They especially don't care about a thrown out charge of DUI.

This whole thing is shady as shit. And it happens every day, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by SDDawg

Was it a road block? That would potentially explain a lot here as well.

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They stopped him for speeding is what I heard.

I had a couple of cops roll into a party we were having and tell us there was a disturbance called on us. My roommate said who and the cop says your neighbor across the street. When my neighbor informed him that the neighbor was in the back by the keg the cop got pissed and threatened to take everyone to jail. They tried to force everyone to drive home with a cop at the end of the road. Luckily we were smart enough to get everyone with a DD.

I met a few good cops but most were dickheads.

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Originally Posted by BossDawg

They stopped him for speeding is what I heard.

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Probably doing 46 in a 45.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

This whole thing is shady as shit. And it happens every day, unfortunately.

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Yeah I generally side with law enforcement, but this really is starting to sound shady.

Speeding in the Cotton District can mean 30 MPH if I remember correctly. Jeez.

Things haven't changed since Johnny Cash rolled through town.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Speeding in the Cotton District can mean 30 MPH if I remember correctly. Jeez.

Things haven't changed since Johnny Cash rolled through town.

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Yep, it's definitely setup to generate revenue for the city.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

I met a few good cops but most were dickheads.

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Yeah, there are dickhead cops out there, but there are dickheads and corrupt people in every profession. I believe that the majority of cops are good people that genuinely care about right and wrong. I'm not saying this was your experience, but most cops are dickheads because the person/people they deal with are being dickheads. I've gotten a DUI before, pulled over multiple times for speeding, etc., and I have never had a cop treat me like a dickhead or disrespect me in any way. I took my licks and let them do their job.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

This whole thing is shady as shit. And it happens every day, unfortunately.

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I don't think I need to remind anyone that Starkville PD caused Smoot to drop into the 2nd round with some bullshit charge that was later thrown out. I think Mullen has A LOT better relationship with the SPD than Jackie did.

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Originally Posted by BossDawg

Yeah, there are dickhead cops out there, but there are dickheads and corrupt people in every profession. I believe that the majority of cops are good people that genuinely care about right and wrong. I'm not saying this was your experience, but most cops are dickheads because the person/people they deal with are being dickheads. I've gotten a DUI before, pulled over multiple times for speeding, etc., and I have never had a cop treat me like a dickhead or disrespect me in any way. I took my licks and let them do their job.

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I've had both. Thankfully, the dickhead I encountered had it blow up in his face and ended with our encounter lampooned in the local paper with a political cartoon. Made me believe that there is justice in the world.

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Originally Posted by BossDawg

Yeah, there are dickhead cops out there, but there are dickheads and corrupt people in every profession. I believe that the majority of cops are good people that genuinely care about right and wrong. I'm not saying this was your experience, but most cops are dickheads because the person/people they deal with are being dickheads. I've gotten a DUI before, pulled over multiple times for speeding, etc., and I have never had a cop treat me like a dickhead or disrespect me in any way. I took my licks and let them do their job.

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The cops were probably just doing what they were told to do, drive around and bust up parties. I just didn't like it that they said everyone had to leave immediately. When we said we would call people to come pick up drunks at the party, these particular cops got pissed. It was pretty obvious they were trying to force people into DUIs. This happened more than once but they very well were told to do that shit.

Cops in the United States are designed to make money as much as they are to help people. I have a buddy that was a cop that got out of it after over a decade because he wasn't "meeting his quota" of tickets although they aren't allowed to say they have a quota.

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Originally Posted by PassInterference

The NFL has employed players with questionable ties to murder, hard drugs, physical abuse, etc. They do not care about one DUI.

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That's not the point. Point is it didn't matter if he is guilty or innocent.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

They especially don't care about a thrown out charge of DUI.

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Disagree. This was actually the point of my post. A thrown out DUI or a DUI, no real difference to the NFL.

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

Disagree. This was actually the point of my post. A thrown out DUI or a DUI, no real difference to the NFL.

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You're right. It makes no difference, because neither will cost him anything when it comes draft day.

starkville cops love dui's and everybody knows that. When I used to bartend at mugshots I would get pulled over at least once a month between 2-4am. Same story every time cop would get behind me as I drove down university towards the cotton district.

Blue lights start, I pull over. Sir I pulled you over for speeding, blinking tail light, etc. you smell quite like alcohol sir. Well I just finished working 12 hours in a bar and cleaning up. Move the seatbelt he sees the logo on the polo and then he lets me go.

Secondly you can't cut one line on the Tetris bike paths drawn down university. They will use this as an excuse to pull you over.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

Cops in the United States are designed to make money as much as they are to help people. I have a buddy that was a cop that got out of it after over a decade because he wasn't "meeting his quota" of tickets although they aren't allowed to say they have a quota.

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I don't doubt that one bit. I know one who's a nurse now. He wanted to be a cop all his life because he genuinely wanted to do something good and help the public. Turns out it was too "political" for him and he decided to change professions. He said it was nearly impossible to do his job without city officials getting into everything and looking out for their own.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

I had a couple of cops roll into a party we were having and tell us there was a disturbance called on us. My roommate said who and the cop says your neighbor across the street. When my neighbor informed him that the neighbor was in the back by the keg the cop got pissed and threatened to take everyone to jail. They tried to force everyone to drive home with a cop at the end of the road. Luckily we were smart enough to get everyone with a DD.

I met a few good cops but most were dickheads.

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When and where did this happen? I swear I heard this exact story from a fraternity brother about ten years ago in a complex between 182 and the cotton district. Either you were at the exact same party, or this is something SPD does regularly.

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Originally Posted by Steakonastick

starkville cops love dui's and everybody knows that. When I used to bartend at mugshots I would get pulled over at least once a month between 2-4am. Same story every time cop would get behind me as I drove down university towards the cotton district.

Blue lights start, I pull over. Sir I pulled you over for speeding, blinking tail light, etc. you smell quite like alcohol sir. Well I just finished working 12 hours in a bar and cleaning up. Move the seatbelt he sees the logo on the polo and then he lets me go.

Secondly you can't cut one line on the Tetris bike paths drawn down university. They will use this as an excuse to pull you over.

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I've had this happen, and know at least 5 others who have been in something very similar. The line between harassment and "protect and serve" is ambiguous as hell.

I'd already forgot about this. It's really a non issue. It's very out of character which is why. If you're a good kid you get a mulligan sometimes.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I've had this happen, and know at least 5 others who have been in something very similar. The line between harassment and "protect and serve" is ambiguous as hell.

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Their favorite thing when I was a student was to sit at a red light and wait for anyone who looked the age of a student and if they didn't completely clear the intersection before the light went yellow they would chase you down and write you a ticket for running a red light. Now how are you going to prove you DIDN'T run a red light. It was just your word against his so its much easier to just pay the fine and move on. The biggest one though was one time they wrote me a ticket for an illegal U-Turn on University Drive just prior to entering downtown when I turned around in the other direction only so I could park along the curb on that side in the direction of traffic. I mean I've only gotten one ticket in my life that wasn't from the SPD while I was a student. There is law enforcement and then there is the SPD. I hesitate to put them in the same category unless things have changed in the last 25 years which it doesn't sound like they have.

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Originally Posted by EAVdog

I'd already forgot about this. It's really a non issue. It's very out of character which is why. If you're a good kid you get a mulligan sometimes.

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Absolutely right.

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Originally Posted by BossDawg

I've gotten a DUI before, pulled over multiple times for speeding, etc., and I have never had a cop treat me like a dickhead or disrespect me in any way. I took my licks and let them do their job.

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I had a cop pull me over and approach my window with his gun drawn screaming at me cause I had my parking lights on instead of my headlights at 7pm at night. The SUV I was driving made it easy to not turn your lights fully on if you weren't paying attention which I wasn't. It wasn't dark enough outside for me to tell I hadn't turned them on fully. I was stone cold sober. It was not a fun experience.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

I had a cop pull me over and approach my window with his gun drawn screaming at me cause I had my parking lights on instead of my headlights at 7pm at night. The SUV I was driving made it easy to not turn your lights fully on if you weren't paying attention which I wasn't. It wasn't dark enough outside for me to tell I hadn't turned them on fully. I was stone cold sober. It was not a fun experience.

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Was this SPD? The gun being drawn is really over the top.

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Originally Posted by BossDawg

Yeah, there are dickhead cops out there, but there are dickheads and corrupt people in every profession. I believe that the majority of cops are good people that genuinely care about right and wrong. I'm not saying this was your experience, but most cops are dickheads because the person/people they deal with are being dickheads. I've gotten a DUI before, pulled over multiple times for speeding, etc., and I have never had a cop treat me like a dickhead or disrespect me in any way. I took my licks and let them do their job.

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but in most professions the system is set up so that the dickheads eventually get found out and booted out, along with anyone who covered for them. with the police the system is set up so that anyone who is either not a dickhead or at least someone who will cover up for the dickheads, they are the ones who are found out and booted out. most cops are good people that learned they'd have to do that little bit of evil to keep doing the good they want to do.