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I we curious how fast he really was as he never really ran by anybody. But was great at body position
Duke Williams ran a 4.73.... that's bad for both of them. Fuller ran a 4.32.... too bad the guy can't catch worth a damn.
That is pathetic. Won't help his draft stock.
Won't help? It will hurt
4.85 on his second run.... Bad technique
Guess 4.85 sounds a little better than 4.9, but we all know what made Wilson great. And it was not his speed
Hopefully he can post 4.7 or better at pro day. That's not good at all.
Me too .. but didn't expect a 4.9. Thought more along the lines of high 4.6s to 4.7s range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
Our WRs are pretty good, but don't stretch the field vertically too much ... although Gray seems to help with that some so far.
He needs to get a good trainer and get it in the 4.7s on pro day. If he can do that maybe it won't hurt him too much.
Just want to remind everyone Dexter McCluster ran around 4.6 at the combine then ran around 4.4 at his pro day. Bear just has to be faster at his pro day.
Wow I'm shocked at that time. That's gonna hurt him. He better get a faster time at pro day or he's gonna drop big time.
It's slow enough that he may not even get drafted. You have to run sub 4.8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
He definitely has to run below 4.8 at pro day. It helps that he is the biggest WR and there hasn't been any big WR freaks like Calvin Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
There are a lot of slow times by Wide Outs today
Same with QBS. No one blew it up but Driskel.
He will drop .2 at pro day just because of hand timing.
Yeah if he doesn't get in 4.7s he won't be drafted. Heck you got linemen running 5.0. He's gotta get that down.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Fans like 40 times. I'm not sure how much pro coaches really care. What is more important is game speed, route running, consistency, and technique. The problem is that I'm not sure how many of those other things Bear excels at either.
Further proof Bear needed another year. But good luck to him. Made his bed, now he has to lie in it.
Absolutely needed another year. I hope he does well but he may be costing himself money. This is a pretty deep wr draft. I'm wishing the best for him and all our guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
Told ya C34 like a year ago. Is it too late for Bear to come back?
Why? Another year isn't going to make him any faster. He has professional football aspirations as his career choice and he he only has a limited window to cash that in. Might as well get on with it and start making money.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
Some of y'all got no concept of fast. 40 times are so distorted. I was going to be thrilled if got a 4.7 time. He's not getting drafted off speed. He's getting drafted off hands, frame, route running, and jumping.
lol- He is getting drafted. Thats not even a concern. But he did hurt himself some today
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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
He wasn't going to get faster by coming back. Now you know why Paidwell didn't run the 40. My guess is that He is in the 4.7 range.
It is funny that everything they were saying about Treadwell would also apply to Bear. I personally think the difference between them is Bear has 3 years of football experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
4.9 hurts. Bad. Maybe he should bulk up and be a hybrid WR/TE. He can block like a TE.Quote:
Originally Posted by ckDOG
who's advising this guy? how can you go into this decisions not having an idea of where you at with professionally timed 40s? Bear, whoever is advising you tell him you are doing him a favor by letting him go without charging him for the millions he just cost you, and go get a professional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big4Dawg
It for sure doesn't help, but he's a big bodied WR that's gonna make his money off jump balls and short routes using his body. He may prove useful blocking in the nfl but his bread and butter will be getting to the inside of his man. We all know He's not getting substantially faster coming back a year. This is a freak out by folks who think "fast" is a sub 4.5 route. You don't have to be fast to get yards at the WR if your frame and route is there. Will he be a deep threat outside of a jump ball scenario? Absolutely not. Nobody ever argued that though. Bear is going to make money at the next level. Can't wait to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Although the professional evaluators can get past the 40 times, I'm starting to see why treadwell didn't run. He's probably a true 4.6 guy - maybe sub 4.6 at his best. Again, he's not a speedster but a physical receiver that can work his man. Probably didn't want to risk running a 4.65 - 4.70 and risk dropping even though he knows speed isn't his money maker.
Damn I just saw a scout on Twitter say DW's 40 time and Vert jump were bad enough to knock him out of draft completely. He's really gonna have to put in the work to change those come pro day, and hope he will. He might have cost himself some real money today.
Vert more important for a guy like Wilson than 40. That sucks
So what is your advice? 'You need to come back and get faster'?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Wilson had the worst 40, the worst vertical and third worst broad jump of all WR. No way to sugar coat it, that will hurt him big time. Especially the jump numbers. He is what he is which is why he needed to focus on an education. Hard for some to realize. Not saying he can't make a team, but it will be difficult.
Not good. I said it a million times. I can't believe he made this decision.
no, just don't run the 40. i thought that was obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Hard to believe that DW was outrun in the 40 by RK.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
This is accurate. That time gonna hurt him bad. He has good size but that ain't gonna get it done. It wouldn't hurt him so bad if he was more polished, but he doesn't catch the ball with his hands well or use his height like he should. I wish and hope the best for him but his overall showing didn't help him any.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
Why is everyone saying he could not get faster in a year's time?
Not true.
If I am not mistaken they use lasers at the combine but stop clocks at the pro day. Which do you think they put more stock in if true?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe