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In my opinion, Strong would be a better fit in Florida somewhere. I can't believe Texas chose Strong over Franklin. I'm just not a big believer in Strong for some reason. If I were Penn State, I would offer Franklin ASAP. They should be thrilled if Texas offers Strong
I like both coaches, but to me Strong has proven himself more to this point than Franklin has.
Strong has proven more by winning by winning games against Louisville's schedule that Franklin has by winning against Vanderbilt's schedule?Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
I am a huge believer in Franklin. Franklin is a no brainer to me.
I know Franklin has improved Vandy, but they benefit greatly from being in the weaker division of the SEC. I think I saw that Vandy has only beaten a few teams that finished with winning records. I think Mullen's better.
Yep. Not to mention the SEC East, particularly Tennessee, has been weaker during his tenure that it has been during other Vandy coaches' tenures. Also, they haven't played anyone OOC. Oh, and his common western division opponent has been mighty TSUN.
Strong has better wins than Franklin at this point.
I also remember years ago the national media said schools in the south wouldn't hire Strong because he was married to a white woman. Of course they played the race card.
Strong has a far better talent pool to work with also. If you give Franklin the same talent pool, I have no doubt that Franklin would be better. By the way, saw this on SB nation too.
from coaching search ticker: Texas: Bobby Burton of 247 Sports reports that Charlie Strong will be the next head coach at Texas. Chip Brown of OrangeBloods.com also reports that Strong has indicated he will accept the job. Jeremy Fowler of CBS Sports reports Strong has not told his staff. Bruce Feldman says Texas has not made a decision
you heard it here first..... Petrino to Louisville part 2!!
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/col...head-coach.ece
and from our friend Pat Forde....
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/col...idate-left.ece
Reports are coming out that Louisville has already contacted Cutcliffe.
Cut aint leaving duke .Quote:
Originally Posted by bluelightstar
Reports 5 years. 5 million per
Pure sarcasm, want to see TSUN implode...if Mullen leaves we hire Cut with O as the DC 'Crootin Coordinator Meister Berger.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
wow! HALF PRICE!Quote:
Originally Posted by bully99
10-4Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgowar
And the OGRE may join Strong in Texas.
First, why does he have a better talent pool? Kentucky is a better recruiting base than Tennessee? The Big East (or AAC or whatever) is more attractive than the SEC?Quote:
Originally Posted by chainedup_Dawg
I don't get why people try to make James Franklin out to be the best coach in the country. He is a very good coach, he has done a great job at Vanderbilt. But Strong has been awesome at Louisville, too. What makes Franklin clearly better?
The funny thing is, Strong had to be at least their fifth choice down. Saban, Shaw, Mora, Briles all said no, not to mention they had guys like Gruden and Harbaugh on their wish list. For some reason I love to hate Texas and it is because of their arrogance and perceived self worth, and the Bears think they are like Texas!! I think Charlie Strong is a good coach/recruiter just not sure how successful he will be at premier school in a top conference and schedule.
Are you kidding me? Franklin has won 15 of his last 19 games while playing in the best conference in America. Strong can't even win his conference with the probable number 1 draft pick at qb.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Franklin's wins in that stretch:Quote:
Originally Posted by RICKRAYMADE
Wake Forest x 2
Kentucky x 2
Tennessee x 2
UMass x 2
2012 Ole Miss
Crappy Auburn from last year
Crappy Florida from this year
Austin Peay
UAB
NC State in last year's bowl
And then UGA this year. It is certainly phenomenal for Vandy, no doubt. But which of those games would Strong have lost? Maybe UGA? But I doubt it. That was the height of UGA's injury issues - they had JJ Green and Brendan Douglas at RB and no one outside of Conley at WR.
I would say Strong's wins in his last 2 bowl games - destroying Miami this year and beating last year's Florida team - are much better than anything Franklin has done in that time frame. So that's where I'm coming from. No, I'm not kidding you.
Strong is about their 8th choice. So much for Texas getting anybody they want....
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
How did he manage to end up winning the Sugar Bowl last year?Quote:
Originally Posted by RICKRAYMADE
I agree with Forde. Strong would be a horrific fit at Tejas. They don't need a recruiter out there. Strong is best suited for places like Lville, Tenn, Arky, etc. that don't have immediate talent and need to recruit FL, where he can do big damage. I could see him at FSU maybe, but not UF or Miami. Again, you don't need a recruiter there.
Texas just needs a good x/o guy. Malzahn is the best out there for them. If they can't get him get Petrino.
I figured Lville had weathered the storm when they dodged Tenn. But there again, it might be the best time for strong to jump since he will lose TB and play a much tougher schedule.
Teddy Ballgame is the reason. Strong is a great D coach but marginal HC, had he not lucked in to Bridgewater he wouldn't have the record he has. Teddy was commited to da Canes then Shannon got axed, when they hired Golden he wanted to go in another direction at QB, so Bridgwater chose Strong and UL. I will be shocked if Strong last more than 3 years at UT. Franklin has done a tremendous job at Vandy considering the conference and the academic requirements. This was a panic hire by TXQuote:
Originally Posted by engie
And what if Strong lands another elite QB at UT? Texas is loaded with them. Two heisman winners come to mind...
I'm saying the talent on his team vs the talent on Louisville's team. You can't possibly think Vandy is as talented as Louisville? Plus, at TX, the talent will be exponentially better so yeah, I think Franklin would do better
That is a Strong (pardon the pun)what if, the guy has hardly if ever recruited TX, and if he plans on Cruitin FL and not TX he will be a disaster. Also, Mack had his pick of QB's and couldnt do shit with them. Im just saying Strong is not going to be the savior that TX wanted. He was a 6-6 coach in the Big Least/AAC before he got BridgwaterQuote:
Originally Posted by Covercorner2
Whose fault is it that Louisville is so talented?Quote:
Originally Posted by chainedup_Dawg
They both inherited equal dumpster fires.
I was wondering about his recruiting strategy also. Strong lives in the Miami area as far as recruiting goes. If he can cherry pick a few guys there, he should, but most his recruits should be texas guys. I'm sure he'll hire an offensive/defensive/recruiting cood from texas to help out recruiting. I'm not sure recruiting texas is that big of a deal though. If strong can evaluate well, he'll be fine bc the texas name recruits the best in texas by itself IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
Say what? He inherited a frigging dumpster fire at Louisville. The fact he went bowling every year was impressive in it's own right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
So, ultimately, you don't think Strong will get elite QB talent at Texas? You know -- the #1 school in a state that produced 33% of the starting QBs both in the NFL -- and in this year's playoffs?
You guys love the term "dumpster fire."
I hope Ogre takes a job in China. I don't want that bastard within 18 hours of Mississippi. We'll be battling Tulane or ULaLa for 2 stars again.
Strong to Texas is a great hire IMO. Sumlin can walk into any Texas kids house and walk out with momma melting like butter. Now he's got to compete with Strong. This hire will help us too. A&M wi be fighting Texas, OU, and LSU for Texas talent again instead of just taking whoever they can get 10 months before signing day.
it's one of my favorites. Ole Miss should've coined it under Nutt.Quote:
Originally Posted by beerfarley
Only reason I can think this hire is a homerun is because Texas' defense has by and large sucked big donkey balls of late. Strong can fix that. Offensively, I hope he has a good O coordinator lined up because just having a Teddy Ballgame ain't gonna cut it in the Big 12. This seems like a save face hire after 5-10 people said no thanks.
Time will tell but IMO this was not the best hire TX could have made, go ask the College football matrix guy I bet he will agree with me on this
Because Florida did't want to be there. Futhermore, look at Florida this year. Florida had no interest in playing in that game. Just like Bama/Utah a few years back.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
You whiffed on my point. Read what I quoted...If he can't win his conference, how did he end up there in the first place?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg