Per Rick Ray today. No word of where he will transfer to.
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Per Rick Ray today. No word of where he will transfer to.
This is surprising and something that cant become a trend. Hopefully Ray is clearing room for a certain juco in Scooba
Boy, that kind of came out of nowhere. Well, I guess we have room for Pollard now.
I assume that is going to hurt us.
I'll tell you this, Ray better get his ****ing act together on the recruiting trail.
Yes, will significantly hurt us in SEC play. He was a solid player for a RFr.
he was a damn good all around player who wasn't a "me first" guy. Sucks to lose him. I thought we needed him, Colin, and Johnson to have a big year for us to have success in the SEC.
I hope this transferring stuff doesn't become a trend with us
Agreed, its one thing to lose Lewis and Steele from the team who were Stans' recruits but its a bad sign when you start losing your own recruits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacksondevildog
None of the players know why he's transferring. It wasn't for grades and it wasn't disciplinary. He won't be back for SEC play so we are already down some players. This signing 4 players and only 1 being eligible is starting to hurt us now. You have to have depth for SEC play and we don't have that.
That's strike 1 on Rick Ray. If he doesn't sign Pollard, that's strike 2. He doesn't get a pass this year.
Agreed, but everyone has to be prepared for it in college basketball these days. I defended it when it happened under Stans, and I'll defend it when it happens under Ray as well, assuming it doesn't get out of hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
Just do some research on how many D1 basketball transfers there are these days; it's pretty staggering overall, and it happens to every program.
I hate losing Applewhite; I really, really liked his game, and there's no way to spin it as a positive. But it will happen.
Only way to spin this positive is if we get a Pollard or somebody like that signed after the season.
So many assumptions going on here. You have no clue what goes on within the team. You have no clue what goes on in practice. Experts all the way around with limited knowledge of the situation and you are laying this on Ray, not the player himself. Strike 1 my ass. You act like a bunch of playground thugs who ****ing know it all. **** APPLEWHITE the QUITTER.
He may be on one side of the spectrum, but you're on the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by notsofarawaydawg
True getting Pollard would be a major upgrade.
I agree. My patience with ray just took a hit. He better start showing me something
So apparently Applewhite wanted a bigger role in the offense. Not sure what you say about that except good luck finding it.
Who's your source, if you don't mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Isn't this a strange time to be wanting to transfer?
I know a couple guys with the program. Not players.
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Originally Posted by TheRef
Are we 100% sure that Pollard would be ineligible to come at Christmas? I know it's a little dicey with academic qualifiers that kick back to JUCO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I know football players can early enroll back into a 4-yr school after one semester in JUCO(Cam Newton, etc...) -- but they aren't playing in actual games in that first semester back in the big school. So maybe that's a difference?
And this is why you see so many college basketball transfers. I don't know what it is about basketball, but so many kids have a view of themselves that is different from reality. It may be bred during AAU or because they usually carried the load in HS, but you see a lot of kids like this...pretty good players who weren't especially highly-recruited, that get a chance at a BCS school, aren't 'the man' right away early in their careers, and want to go somewhere where they think they can make that happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I know I'm generalizing in the case of Applewhite, and I don't know him and know very little about him, just saying that is becoming a pretty common thing in college basketball. Rarely do you see anyone stay and graduate at a school if he doesn't at least start at some point in his career. I get it at places like UNC...if you can't cut it there, you still may be able to be a big deal at a decent school. But this is just the way it goes, has to be incredibly frustrating for coaches.
If it's true that he wanted a bigger role in the offense, he's going to have to go to a place like UNC-Greensboro or the like, and even then he may struggle to find what he wants. It's not like we're lighting the world on fire. I think if he had stayed the course, he could have been a really big contributor in his career, though he's never going to be a go-to guy on a good team. He should have taken the Roquez Johnson approach and become the 'energy guy' who does all the little things. Ah well.
Just said that on 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
What kind of me-first player quits and transfers mid-season though? There's a right way and a wrong way to do things... Unless there is more to the story than meets the eye(hence my previous post's speculation)
I don't think he could but Cam was in juco 2 semesters.
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Originally Posted by engie
We dont have anybody that can shoot as it is- get the damn ball and take it to the hole or fill it up. He needs to go play juco ball if he wants a bigger roleQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Can Daniels play?
I know redshirt is the plan.
Well what lightly recruited player like Applewhite would transfer for that reason 12 games into his freshman season? I mean Ray signed him in the spring because he was one of the few HS players still available late when Ray first arrived at MSU. Either Applewhite is an idiot or there is more to the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mts68
It wouldn't make much sense to do so. He would then have to quit playing in the middle of the year in 2015-2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottH
I would guess there is more to this story. Even Stan's players would wait till the end of the year to transfer
I sure am glad the transfer problem has been fixed.
It isn't a State problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
425 transfers last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
That is insane. Basketball needs a complete overhaul, at every level. Figure out a way to either remove AAU or drastically reduce its influence (hard for me to figure out a way to do this, may be impossible); either bump the age limit for the NBA up 2 years or institute a baseball-like policy, and figure out a way to make the NBA less about the superstar and more about the team (has already happened to some degree recently, and this may be essentially impossible as well).Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
unless you know otherwise aren't you doing the same thing to a kid that others on here are doing to an adult? I've always taken the stance that it's ok to rip a coach or a grown man, but don't go after the kids. that's BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by notsofarawaydawg
I have a pretty strong feeling that there's more to the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
I'd rather have Pollard or a Juco 3point specialist who can start playing right now. Applewhite not finishing this season points to something else just happened and he's now "transferring". Kinda like Trae Golden was banging the judicial affairs faculty member at UT and then just suddenly "transferred" to GTech. Tevin Moore and DeRunnya Wilson can fill Applewhite's minutes till next year.
Rick Ray will not be a head basketball coach in major college basketball after next season. It's time to start facing the music guys.
You already have to sit out a year unless you move to a lower division. If somebody wants to transfer at that price, they should be able to.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness