They're in the best conference, and they've rose to the top while having no history and less resources than their rich conf neighbors.
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They're in the best conference, and they've rose to the top while having no history and less resources than their rich conf neighbors.
I?m unaware that we have a Mark Cuban.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Cig is a heck of a coach. He is not the norm. Not even close to the normQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
One of the best coached teams I?ve ever seen. Perfect tackling and execution.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Amazing what NIL has done to the SEC the past 2 years.
Mark Cuban has zero to do with what their team is doing this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
https://frontofficesports.com/how-in...r-in-football/Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
They spent over $60MM on football- which is 20-plus million more than we spend.
"The Hoosiers also have an NIL warchest that’s competitive with the rest of the conference. After last year’s College Football Playoff berth, the team was able to retain most of its core rather than losing it to the transfer portal and make some expensive additions, too. Quarterback Fernando Mendoza has emerged as a Heisman Trophy frontrunner and is being paid $2 million, according to CBS Sports."
Mark Cuban is a convenient excuse for the Selmon and Lebby lovers to try and pretend that he couldn?t have been hired here or wouldn?t have wanted the job. This team has nothing to do with Cuban. Sure, Cuban might keep Cignetti there long term but he has nothing to do with this team.
He gave a "big number" to their Athletic Dept this year. I'm sure they used some of that money to pay their Heisman QB his $2 million salary, so yes he had something to do with their success this year. But their president has been boosting their athletic spending since she arrived in 2021.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
http://https://frontofficesports.com/how-indiana-quietly-became-a-big-spender-in-football/
How much rev share do we allocate to Women?s basketball? Because it should be 0.
What they've done the past two years is remarkable. The two years before Cig they were 2 - 10, 4 - 8, and 3 - 9. And check out the roster talent disparities they've faced this year:
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Some of y?all are losers pretending to be the realist. That?s infinitely more annoying than the eternal optimist.
I'm sorry that facts hurt your feelings. No bottom spenders in college football are big winners. They simply arentQuote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
I?m certainly no Lebby fan. Cuban has impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
Cignetti is an unbelievable coach. You can tell by his demeanor and how the team plays together and executes.
Shut up. They made the playoffs last year when they didn't spend a tonQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
And what a badass OL/DL he has put together. Thats what makes them a dam good team plus a well disciplined team. They don't make mistakes and they tackle pretty well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
Basically what everyone is telling you is that Mississippi State is THE only Division 1 school with no rich boosters or alumni out of the 170,000 alumni base and 400,000+ enrollees over the last 70 years. And those that do have money apparently hate their Alma mater
But they did program wise- 50% more than us. Think about that gap. Indiana spends more on football than 1/3 of the SEC. Almost half. All they did for 2025 was up their NIL. And now for 2026 they are going to double their spending on front office/coaching personnel. We arent doing that shit. Until we get a $50MM infusion into football which is about the equal of what we got into baseball last Spring-we arent going anywhere no matter who coaches usQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Also you fail to acknowledge that Cig brought about 25 players to Indy with him that were successful and good already. Thats a helluva base to build a team around.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Who needs to fund football when you have the national prestige and money making capability of college baseball haahahahhaahha faaaaaaaaartQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
You’d have to try a lot harder to hurt my feelings. It’s just weird to constantly flex failure and never provide a solution out of it. The constant negative connotation makes for a boring back and forth. There are avenues which we can leverage to climb out of mediocrity. Will they be taken is another questionQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The only program people seem to care about is going to suffer if we don’t make sure we are included in realignment.
Show me a link of what they spend last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The link I posted above said they spent $62M, on football alone, in 2024. Up from $24M in 2021. That's some serious cash infusion to a program.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
ETA... he posted the same link as well
Here's sporting news on playoff NIL spending
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...2de9dc001aacf1
I've already sent you a link. It clearly said they topped the conference median for spending in 2024. Wtf?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You morons need to understand college football of old is gone. It doesnt matter what the name on the jersey says. Dolla bills ya'll. You cant compare anything from 2022 and beyond to 2019 and earlier. It's a new age with new rules.
I saw that and its horribly wrong. Mississippi spent way more than that and there is no way to have so many NA's for public universitiesQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
They didn't spend 62 million on NIL. Are you insane?Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Conf median on football spending. That isn't NILQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Of course not. For all football operations.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
ChatGPT says miss state spend 35.55 million on football this season, but that's not NIL.
Holy crap- ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Football spending spending is about how much they spend on the program. Analysts. Front office personnel. Guys that spend all day watching recruits video. Guys that eval every school's rosters. All that shit. Their budget for all that is 50% larger than ours. Then they got a huge boost in NIL on top of that. I can assure your NIL doesnt match Indy's when they pay they starter 2MM and our entire QB room was 1.5
Argue all you want- other schools realize it takes money to fund the program. And we did it in baseball. We do it half ass in basketball. But in football we are bottom 10 in the P4 easy. Kansas spends more than us. Think about that.
My whole point of this thread is Indiana isn't spending on NIL like Ohio st, Michigan, Penn st, Oregon, etc., yet they're succeeding big time. That should be something to place hope on for a program like us. The chances of us pulling it off are small, but it does show a path for a smaller program.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
So Indiana spent almost twice as much as we did. There is your answerQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yet they spent 2MM on 1 QB- while our entire QB room was 1.5Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You arent making the point you thought you were
So they made the playoffs last season and upped their lending this year, cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
It's kinda ridiculous that every player's salary isn't public knowledge and easily searchable, like it is in the NFL.
Earlier I was trying to figure out which G5 schools spend the closest to the P4 on NIL/salary, and it's just not available. I assume the answer is Memphis and Boise State, but who else? Fresno State? North Texas?
Well- get ready to contribute 100K to keep KT after he has a great season in 26. Because if he does? It will take 3-5MM to keep him. He wont turn down 5MM from Ohio St or Bama to stay at State for 2MMQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He brought James Madison players with him. Those players are Inexpensive and average football players. Nothing special or unique about them other than ultimate team players and he didn't have to build his team from the portal andr team chemistry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
You are the pessimistic of pessimist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Exactly, they're beating teams with a roster full of James Madison transfers. They were glad for the opportunity to play on the big stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Apparently not. Mendoza is a 1st round draft pick. Soooooo no- they arent average. Tell Oregon they are average- they put 30 plus on their ass while TT couldnt do shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28