I have asked AI and it keeps giving the same results for every year. I would love to know
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I have asked AI and it keeps giving the same results for every year. I would love to know
https://cfbstats.com/2025/team/430/index.html
Change the years at top
It can't be many. Because we couldn't score for shit and still won games.
Thanks 7
From 2020-22 ranked top 5 in SEC in: total defense, lowest percentage of big plays allowed, points per possession allowed, fewest rushing TDs and yards allowed, among others.
Bbbbbbut he isn't a swell guy, BSD! **Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I'm actually shocked we made the hire, but in a good way. Usually State is too prideful to go back and make a move like this that should benefit us.
Ranks in PPG:
6th
7th
9th
10th- head coach year.
In other words he got gradually worse.
Hahaha Todd is a woman scornedQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
What happened to pulling the rope in the same direction, Todd?
What was the point per game in conference play.
I saw that with all games, 23 points per.
Yes, but those are pretty damn good. Look, we all agree he was a terrible HC, but he was a damn good DC. Leach loved him and thought the world of him. Keenum's dumbass put him in that position. He was a post turtle. You know he didn't belong up there on that post but some dumbass put him up there. I bet our defense next season is light years better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
FEI def...
2020 - 31st
2021 - 34th
2022 - 11th
FPI def eff...
2020 - 18th
2021 - 33rd
2022 - 11th
Arnett was great as our DC. If we come close to these numbers this upcoming season, we will have a real shot at 7-8 wins.
Well I learned a new term today. Lol. That's greatQuote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Bottom half of the SEC is "damn good" now?Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Left of 2023 for some reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
MSU needs to stop hiring people that cut the rope.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Hand-waving but State's ideal:Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Defense like 2022 rating
KT takes a step forward in the passing game
Hit on OL in the portal
Hit on a top WR pull from the portal
That team threatens for the playoffs.
Now is that realistic to expect? No. But you can at least see what vision we're going for. Who we keep through the portal window and add will be obviously be the deciding factors on the hype meter - but there is vision. And kudos to all folks involved if we're really setting aside egos like this.
Just looked at years he was the DC only, but here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
FEI def - 45th
FPI - 39th
Dropped in both, but not horrible
Bro......stop being so butthurt. It's gonna be ok. It's gonna be better than ok. If we had Arnette's defense this season, we are 8-4 at worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
So, about where Armstrong has been at Houston.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
A 45th ranked defense this year would have meant an 8 win season and a decent bowl game.
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Arnett
2020-28.1(all SEC games)
2021-25.9
2022-23.1
Duntzler
2024-34.1
2025-29.2
In SEC games only
Arnett
2020-28.1
2021-27.5
2022-28.6
Duntzler
2024-38.9
2025-37.9
In P4 games
Arnett
2020-28.1
2021-26.4
2022-25.6
Duntzler
2024-37.9
2025-35.9
Like Arnett or not he is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge upgrade from Duntzler who was historically bad. He might be the worst hire in MSU history and that's saying something. I don't know if some of you understand how bad he really was.
I'll take 8th in points allowed and top 5 in yards allowed. Sign me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Especially with a competent offense, which we didn't have in 2020 or 2023
We should be butthurt. This is an insanely stupid move by Lebby.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Yeah it will be Ok. After we fire Arnett and then bring back Dan and then he leaves us after that doesn't work. So, five- seven years it should be great.
Give me points since that's what they use to determine who wins and loses the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Sign me up to average 8th in points allowed and top 5 in yards allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Exactly. This year that would've got us to 9-3 and a Florida bowl. I guess some of our fans like 16th last in yards and 16th in points allowed(15th this year thanks Arky)Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
If this works out will you be happy or would you still hate the guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Feels like you really dislike him. I understand your points but I think its going to work out. Arnett probably has an extra chip on his shoulder too.
Ok. I'll take 8th in points allowed. Sign me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We have to get players though. Whether it's arnett or Armstrong or Wilcox or Saban, we have to get players. That will tell the tale.
Was he DC then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I do not have any respect for Arnett. If he apologizes publicly for what he did I might give him a chance but he's not man enough to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
And when I say apologize I mean he needs to apologize for what he did to Leach's staff and admit that hiring Barbay was wrong. He needs to apologize for lying to our players and their families. He needs to apologize for his foul language embarrassing MSU on TV during an interview.
He oversaw it and that's what he specialized in. He also recruited most of those players.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
This ain't intramurals brother. If your criteria for a DC includes being a good guy and not cussing, you need to sit this one out. I'll let Sam Purcell coach your defense, but I'd prefer a psycho as my DC in the SECQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
The Wendy's drive through girl in the back just raised her hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Is not completely destroying the program because you are an idiot fall into your criteria? Or are you cool with our intramural team being 5-7?Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
You like Lebby, right? What's our record this season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
It just feels like we got left with the last kid on the playground that no one else picked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He said he?d let him be his DC, not his UberEats driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Worst hire will ALWAYS be Peter Sirmon....as far as DC goes. Everyone keeps confusing his Head coaching career against his coordinator career. I'm glad to see the guy back because we had an above serviceable level from him as DC and we haven't been there since he was no longer the DC ... I know it's kinda like the Manny Diaz situation coming back but Manny never wanted to be here. Objective reasoning says we can expect improvement... especially since recruitment isn't the Trump card that it used to beQuote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
Sooooooooo.....
We just hired a proven SEC DC. Who owns acres of land around Starkville because he and his family loves the area.
We were turned down by others because our NIL is shit and they dont want to be a baller on a budget.
I'm not seeing the problem
**** Lebby if he picks people like Zach Arnett to be our coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7