Remember, I'm not asking what we will do. We all know he's getting another year. I want to see what % of the fans here want him to get one.
Remember, I'm not asking what we will do. We all know he's getting another year. I want to see what % of the fans here want him to get one.
Fire
At this point, it doesn’t matter who the coach is. State could have the second coming of Saban, Bryant and Rockne together and would still screw it up.
I think with a better gameday coach we could have 7 or 8 wins right now instead of 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintDawg
Yet, we had 3 more games we legitimately could have (some would say should have) won.
He gets one more year. But he must hire a OC and a QB coach. Even more important is to hire an advisor who is a talent evaluator who can find us guys we can afford who can make differences. These type players are out there. One just beat the crap out of us.
Timing of this poll is not great since we just lost the Egg Bowl. But firing him now would be one of the dumbest moves in history. We wouldnt have been in the position to win those games without Lebby. We improved from Year 1 to Year 2. Thats all you can ask for. Now we will see if he makes the needed adjustments for Year 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
1. Keep KT
1. Lebby gets one more year
3. We must get him an OC
3. Preferably an OC who has success developing young QBs
5. Upgrade the DL
6. Upgrade the OL
I just don't see how you can argue that only Jeff Lebby (a 1-15 SEC coach) could have even had a chance to beat 3-9 Florida this year. Like, seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
You could say this exact same sentence if we were 3-9 instead of 5-7. Would you?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Lebby gave us a chance to beat UF, Texas, and Tennessee. Pretty impressive after the mess he inherited in Year 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Yes he did but imo he also was the primary reason we lost those games!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Florida is going to finish 3-9. No loss to them can be remotely impressiveQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Fire that bum
Keep. Won?t matter anyway there?s too many built in disadvantages for us to do anything so just keep the continuity. If he goes backwards next year then fire him but he improved us enough to keep going.
Pretty sure hiring Arnett was the dumbest move in our recent historyQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Interesting split...
SixPackSpeak: 73-27 FIRE
EliteDawgs: 82-18 KEEP
Fire
Fire, but we're not.
That was the start of this mess we are in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
That is not ALL I COULD ASK FOR!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Yet no one has faced consequences for it and it's cost us a significant amount of moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBobDawg
Firing Lebby would be the dumbest thing to do right now.
There isn't another coach out there we could land right now that would be better.
Support upgrades to coaching staff and NIL to get more portal players. Hire a guy to evaluate under rated talent.
Fire him. Next year the schedule is probably worse and we are no better right now than we were when Lebby arrived. We were for a moment but have regressed since.
Believe it or not it?s way deeper than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBobDawg
Nice thread... same as your last six. Wouldn't read again.
Keep
He?s the sole reason we aren?t bowling this year. FIRE
Keep
KEEP
E. Drayton said it all. I'm not smart enough to copy another post. But he summed it up 100%..
We hired a first time AD, HC and DC. We literally signed up for the results we are seeing. Our admin. basically knew this would happen and they will throw another season onto the flaming alter of stupidity before they make a change.
If your goal is to end up with a service academy head coach, fire Lebby. You fire Lebby, and no credible coach will even answer the call from us. Particularly with the other jobs that are open.
Need a real defensive coordinator first and foremost. Hutzler is not it and defense could not top a team of grandmas on walkers the last 4 games of the season. Lebby gets another year if he does that. An OC would be nice too.
All 3 "service academy head coaches" would be an improvement over Lebby. Was that supposed to be an insult?Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
LOL. Yeah. The triple option is what we need to be running. No need to ever throw the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Brian Newberry came up as a DC and is unlikely to be committed to the "triple option." Troy Calhoun has mixed passing when he has a QB who can do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Most importantly, all 3 of them are good enough coaches to adapt to the SEC rather than just forcing in whatever their personal favorite system is. I'm not saying that any of them is my #1 choice, but all 3 would likely be better than 1-15 in their first 2 years as a head coach, with 0 blowouts to MAC teams and 0 losses that were entirely due to coaching fuсkups.
Yeah. As long as we run the ball all the time and abide by a bunch of conventional theory tropes instead of being aggressive and analytically sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
As the undisputed king of the Leach fanboys, I think we all know that I am not a "run the ball all the time" kind of guy, nor some kind of anti-analytics luddite.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I just don't think the stereotypes that you're describing apply to Newberry, Calhoun, or Monken. All 3 of them are excellent at winning with what they have and have adapted in their own ways.
I guess this is where I stand alone.
For me, I don't care what offense we run as long as we win. I dont care what defense we run as long as we win. I don't care where the coach comes from as long as he is a successful coach. I get the service academies aren't flashy but they are winning with $0 of NIL money. Newberry has done a great job, imo.
I'm not calling for him to be our coach. I wouldn't throw a fit about it if he was tho. He has done more with less and I think that's the kind of coach we need if they decide to fire Lebby.
I am 100% against a philosophy of defense first, run the ball, win TOP and all those other tropes. I?m not willing to be the SEC team that wants to see if a service academy coach will change his philosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking