We will break insane attendance records soon.
I do wish we can somehow one day, included the condo attendance and upper deck as part of the attendance numbers.
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We will break insane attendance records soon.
I do wish we can somehow one day, included the condo attendance and upper deck as part of the attendance numbers.
I'm sorry to be that guy, I'm excited for O'Conner, but please for the love of God let's not spend a bunch of money on baseball when we are so behind in football.
You are THAT guy. We could spend and extra $15 million per year on Football and still be in the bottom 1/3 of the SEC. We could spend an extra $4 mil per year on baseball players and be in the Top 1/3 of the league. We could spend an extra $5 mil per year on basketball and stay in the Top 1/3 of the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
Football 105 scholarships plus NIL
Baseball 35 scholarships plus NIL
Basketball 15 scholarships plus NIL
this^^^^^^
The original condos were built for around 8 million (pre covid price increases). A new set will probably be north of $10 million now. They will likely wait until the original set is fully paid off from lease payments and roof rentals before leveraging more. The original design did allow room for another set of condos from just outside the left field foul pole meeting the other set so they can share a stairway/egress in the middle.
they would also need to plan to do this in one off season (7-8 months). They could pre-order steel and long lead items to make it work. Gonna need a good steel erector and brick mason for that schedule. I hope it happens soon.
I know plenty brick layers.
Don't we rent them out for football weekends? and basketball?Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
I was thinking more of a profit center , but with the high of the baseball expectations driving up pricing.
annual lease
The footings and plumbing are already in the ground for the second set (for once someone had foresight). So only upward erection is needed for the second set.
correct on the footings. I know site fire lines were pre-planned, but I cant remember on the sanitary sewer but it can't be that far to tap in regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinto
I know plenty brick layers.
LOL Well played.
Look, I know you guys love baseball and get emotional aboout it. I have no problem with that, I hope we do good to. But I also believe in making rational, well thought out decisions that benefit the entire university and athletic department, not a niche sport (compared to football and basketball). If more condos produce net revenue that can be used to supplement football and basketball by all means, let's do it. But I highly doubt that is the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Selmon seems to be pretty discerning when it comes to revenue matters, so I'll yield to his decisions.
Trust me. Selmon cares more about football and men’s basketball. He understand how important baseball is here but he will never lose sight of the bigger picture. And that is that football and men’s basketball pay the bills of everything else on campus.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
Also, and has been mentioned here already, baseball is big for the local economy in the spring than other SEC towns.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
And if you don't, you could be in CUSA in a few years. This hire is perfect timing as much as anything. No more lying Lemonis here to claim we got no money too.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
So you skipped right over the part where I mentioned you could spend $15 million extra on Football and still be in the bottom 1/3 of the conference. You did not see me say "don't spend on football". So sure. You baseball is a niche (whatever that is in the sports world) sport guys can wave your magic wand and poof, all athletics spending goes to football and we will STILL go 5-7 to 8-4 tops in this conference and still have some 4-8 years sprinkled in. If Football is your main and only focus, Tuscaloosa is about 85 miles >>> that way! Most of us would whether have a more well rounded athletics program and target the areas State can be more successful! Historically, that has been Baseball, Tennis and Women's Golf. Of those 3 I'd rather spend on Baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
But if you go back to my point, I actually gave more expenditures to Basketball.
Football 105 Scholarships -$15 million extra to go 5-7 or 8-4 and making a bowl game 3 out of every 4 to 5 years.
Basketball 15 scholarships -$5 million extra to go to NCAA 3 out of every 5 years and the NIT or CBI the other 2.
Baseball 35 scholarships - $4 million extra to go to a Regional EVERY Year, Host a regional 3 out of every 5 years, make it to Omaha 3 to 4 times per 10 years.
maybe some start to follow alongQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
The crazy part is we could add $25m to the $35m we spent last year and still be in the bottom half of the SEC in football spending.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
You'd be wrong about that part too. Add $15MM to the about $10 MM we spend in NIL and you're at $25MM. That gets you serious talent. OM didn't touch that number and got good talent. Plus, you cannot build your athletics around baseball. We aren't throwing a bunch of extra money at baseball, this buyout was cheap and we've always had the money on that side. Just a bunch of dumb 17s defending mediocrity in baseball to protect fat boy access.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
who you calling fat, phat boy?
No way in hell we can spend an EXTRA $15 million on Football NIL. I'm talking about adding $15 million to the entire "current" expenditures. As Brunswick said, State would still be near or at the bottom of the SEC economy. You want to see Donors disappear? Treat Baseball like an Olympic "so-called" Niche sport. You will lose millions in donations to the athletics department trying to reach up from #16 in football to #13 in football. That would definitely send us to CUSA quicker than the current schedule we are on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Build another condo building and raise the price of season tickets for everyone. Some will get priced out, but that's just the cost of doing business these days. As hot as Mississippi State baseball is, it's only going to get hotter, and there are plenty of people that will be willing to take someone's tickets if they feel the price is too high.
Baseball can be a true revenue sport here but we've got to raise the prices on some stuff.
We will not raise prices until the original seat licenses expire. That was the deal and it will be honored. Now once those expire, some in 28 but most in 29, then the ticket prices will probably triple or quadruple.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
What about some type of small expansion?
We could get 15k every weekend game, with big ones bringing 20k plus.
What are the possibilities there?
Because when we start winning the demand will be there.
Any potential expansion to DNF will be 8-10 years away. Football is getting the first priority and that will be a very large project. We have to renovate the club level on the East Side. We want to build an additional club level on the West Side. We have to figure out what we want to do with the Seal Building as well. That's easily an 80-100 million dollar project all said and done.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
This, Baseball is a long way off from seeing anything like what they are wanting.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I mean if a baseball booster wants to cut a 50-60 million dollar check then we'll move it up but unless it's FULLY privately funded then baseball is at the back of the line in terms of renovations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Hang on let me grab my checkbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Understandable .
Original set is supposed to be paid off this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert Stare
The first set is about to be pure profit. Should build more. That's a quick turn on profit. Nowhere else can you make one that fast from building a facility or adding to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
Small expansion will cost a ton. And any expansion is going to people that buy the seats. All the ga people hoping for chairbacks for them are wishing for Santa to come through. Something has to pay for it. Baseball expansion is way way way down the list. And that includes more lofts. Which is build the lofts bc of their quick profit. But I'm not in chargeQuote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Next set of condos will be erected summer of 27'.
I had heard 28 or 29, but we may have moved that timeline up. We already have the space cleared for them and like Homedawg said, they're quick profit because they'll be leased immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by trob115
Saw some variance of the word erection more times this morning than I thought I would??
I'm all for us getting BOC and being really good at baseball, but football should always be the main focus at every university in this conference. It's weird that it even has to be said to this fanbase. Not a little bit weird. Like extremely weird. Football HAS to be fixed or we are going to end up in the Sunbelt. That's not fear mongering. If you want to enjoy your palace of a baseball stadium with home series every week against Arkansas State and USM, then continue to treat football like it's baseball's little brother and see where that gets us. We could win the baseball national championship 100 years in a row and if football is going 2-10 every year we are going to get relegated eventually. Even if you don't give a sh*t about football, you better treat it right or it will take everything else down with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
This times 1000. It's great to be good at baseball and it's really fun, we have the Grove of Baseball. But it pales in comparison to being good at football. The revenue generated by being EVEN AVERAGE, like 7-5, in football trumps a national championship season in baseball. And like Jarius said, if you want to keep having these incredible atmospheres for baseball and keep attracting top talent, then football has to be THE PRIORITY. Luckily for us, we have an AD that implicitly understands that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
You can't talk sense with fools. These baseball only whackos can't look and see USM and realize that's what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
This is why it's so important to get the baseball alums more involved than ever. They are beginning to come back and help baseball and we see what is happening there, basketball is taken care of by two boosters, we need every other penny to stay at least relevant on the football field.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve