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ok. I hear ya.
What does KT do? Does he transfer or move to WR
Gotta think Mayden will start looking at this point. We keep bringing people in to bury him on the chart
Shrader? This guy is not known for hard work in the 1st place and may bolt because of the new workout program- but bringing in someone to replace him could easily make him look round.
The Pirate will absolutely fix the QB position- but short term it could implode. Just more entertainment in 2020
It has been imploded for the last year
im Not going to worry about the QB spot. Leach will find QBs. The ones on the roster have to work to earn it. KT is done here no matter what.
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Please, this is in no way a negative.
Worst case scenario, we start redshirt freshman Will Rogers next year...which may be our best move even if all those guys stick around.
I think Mayden transfers
I think Shrader stays, redshirts, and competes next Spring for the job.
I'd think if you'd like to be an NFL QB, transferring when Mike Leach is your coach would be pretty stupid unless you have no avenue for playing time. I expect Shrader to stick it out until all avenues are blocked.
If Shrader doesn't want to work, then good bye and don't let the door hit you. We need Dawgs here. It's the only way we'll win.
Read about Leach recruiting Josh Heupel and you'll understand
Pretty Leach can go get a good grad transfer every year if need be anyway. What grad transfer QB will turn down the opportunity to lead the nation in passing? None.
Shrader may also thrive if he's held accountable. Same could be said about the rest of our team. And he may not and leave.
It sounds like KT will switch to WR if what I heard is correct.
I can't see Mayden ever being our QB1 no matter the coach.
Will probably be Rogers and Shrader competing for the job. The thing is as long as we redshirt Rogers Shrader will still be a year ahead of him even if Shrader redshirts.
Or end up like Gardner Minchew except do it playing in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
The immediate interest from transfer QB's has been eye opening to me.
The QB situation will be minimal compared to the conditioning program the team is going through..... they're going from sitting around eating donuts to waking up before dawn and running WITH the S&C coach. Huge difference in that staff.
OP trying desperately to "be right" on this being a bad hire it appears...
IDGAF about anyone else since this is Will Rogers team 2021-2024
One thing I have learned is that there is a steady supply of QBs in the transfer portal.
Someone can't wait for disaster...
My two cents, I've seen Rogers play, I don't think he is physically ready to play as a freshman. Yes he can spin the ball and has a good arm but physically he needs another year in the weight room.
Shrader, talented yes, will he leave, iffy, there is no reason why he couldn't be ok in Leach's offense. Have not a clue what is going on with him except he is young and obviously hasn't grown into a "man" yet. Maybe Leach is his answer, I hope so.
Mayden, have not a clue what is going on.
Now, some of you guys need to relax on portal QB's "dying" to play for Leach. Yes there are some available but again it has to be the right fit for both QB and Leach, plus is StarkVegas the place they want to live for a year. We should all remember the Tommy Stevens that backfired, oh it can back fire again or it can be a plus. Just IFFY.
Me, I think it's gonna be a big rebuilding year on everything in our program. I see good things and I see some tough times next year. Playing in the Sec West is tough, I remember hearing JWS saying Starkville/Msu football is not a easy place to win.
Pot/kettle situation but the last S&C coach looked like my fatass that would be able to run up the steps about 1 time. I don't trust a trainer or S&C coach who doesn't look like they work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
Not saying any grad transfer is a sure thing to work out but Leach has proven that he can take just about anybody that can legitimately play D1 QB and produce a top 10 national passing game. The QBs we are talking about are top 10 high school QBs and the guy at Stanford is a proven commodity similar to how Hurts went to Oklahoma and was in the Heisman race. There was zero chance Hurts was going to bomb like Stevens did barring some injury. Pretty much the same scenario for Costello. The Clemson QB is a little bit more of an unproven commodity but he is transferring because he is behind the top returning QB in college football.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
There is also the obvious coaching difference between Leach and Moorhead/Breiner. One took a basic walk on and turned him into a household name and now NFL starter in his rookie year. The other took a top 3 SEC redshirt senior and turn him into a mediocre at best QB.
Like 34 but he is grasping here with Leach. If Castello returned to Stanford and put up # this year as he did in 18 he would be one of the top QBs in the 21 draft. He could be here in 20 and possibly be a top 10 pick next April.
This would be like getting Hurts last year. The only way the guy isn't successful is due to injury or if somehow our WRs can't catch a ball. I have a feeling that Leach will have WRs on the field that will catch at a lot better rate than the previous 2 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
Assuming we get him, I think Costello will be very successful here. Top 10 pick though, not buying that at allQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
That is definitely VERY optimistic. I would say maybe top 5-10 QB in the NFL draft but that is also about potential as much as stats. Costello is a safe bet that gives us the best shot at 8 wins next year. I would say if he is the starting QB we probably go from 6 wins to 8 wins maybe. We certainly have a chance at 8 wins with the QBs on the roster but the likelihood is increased with Costello. Right now I put the floor at 5 wins and ceiling at 8 wins. I put it at 5 wins because we just don't know how much damage Moorhead did to the program and if it can be fixed that quickly. Leach certainly has the track record that you would think 6-8 are probably more likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
If the QB situation implodes....so be it. I wish KT would take a shot at a WR role. He could always serve as an emergency qb if needed. But if he is dead set on being a qb I imagine he transfers after Spring ball. Unless he suddenly wakes up and thrives as a qb under Leach.....which I doubt.