Why aren't we going to win 8 games again next year?

Just went through the schedule. Louisiana Lafayette and Abilene Christian are wins.

Southern Miss and Kansas State are both at home.

OM and Kentucky both at home.

Tennessee and Arkansas on the road. Arkansas worse than us for sure no matter who is at QB and Tennessee might be the toughest game out of all of those and they missed a bowl game this year.

At no point ever should we go less than 7-5. Even if we mess up, Auburn at home is going to give us a fairly decent chance to win because they don't have a QB.

Next years schedule all things considered is extremely favorable for an odd year. Plus the Tennessee game is after a bye week for us. They play Georgia the week before.

If we go 6-6 bye bye Joe. But I don't see why 8-4 isn't even a possibility being mentioned by some. Offense can't get worse so it has to get better. Defense will still be Top 30. Still very solid.

We will

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The offense absolutely *can* get worse. And we lost 3 games by double digits with the #1 defense. What happens if we are still scoring single digits against top defenses?

Kentucky loses a lot but they stoned our offense this year. We were horrible on the road in conference play this year, and likely would be an underdog at UT. I think a bowl game is probably in the cards but 8-4 next year means KT is better than we expected.

We very likely could lose the entire interior of our oline.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We very likely could lose the entire interior of our oline.

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You seem to be the only person that continually worries about this. Both Ari and IYOK have both said he'll be back.

I'll bet any one person on here $100 that we have at least 8 wins by January 2, 2020, barring a starting qb injury.

Look at the schedule. Auburn and Texas a&m on road. That's tougher. Bama and LSU home brutal. Our defense is going to take a big drop. Anyone who thinks otherwise is well, an eternal optimist. If we win 6 and go to a bowl I'd take it today.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

You seem to be the only person that continually worries about this. Both Ari and IYOK have both said he'll be back.

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This.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

I'll bet any one person on here $100 that we have at least 8 wins by January 2, 2020, barring a starting qb injury.

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So 7 plus a bowl win? Is that right?? Just making sure.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Look at the schedule. Auburn and Texas a&m on road. That's tougher. Bama and LSU home brutal. Our defense is going to take a big drop. Anyone who thinks otherwise is well, an eternal optimist. If we win 6 and go to a bowl I'd take it today.

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So you think we lose to either Ky, Om, or ark?

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Just went through the schedule. Louisiana Lafayette and Abilene Christian are wins.

Southern Miss and Kansas State are both at home.

OM and Kentucky both at home.

Tennessee and Arkansas on the road. Arkansas worse than us for sure no matter who is at QB and Tennessee might be the toughest game out of all of those and they missed a bowl game this year.

At no point ever should we go less than 7-5. Even if we mess up, Auburn at home is going to give us a fairly decent chance to win because they don't have a QB.

Next years schedule all things considered is extremely favorable for an odd year. Plus the Tennessee game is after a bye week for us. They play Georgia the week before.

If we go 6-6 bye bye Joe. But I don't see why 8-4 isn't even a possibility being mentioned by some. Offense can't get worse so it has to get better. Defense will still be Top 30. Still very solid.

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He won't get fired at 6-6. No chance. Zero. None. Well minus being Bobby petrino.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

So 7 plus a bowl win? Is that right?? Just making sure.

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Depends on when the bowl is. By the close of day Jan 2, 2020.

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He won't get fired at 6-6. No chance. Zero. None. Well minus being Bobby petrino.

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Man that would have to be one big motorcycle!

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

You seem to be the only person that continually worries about this. Both Ari and IYOK have both said he'll be back.

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http://www.drafttek.com/m/positional...-NFL-Draft.asp

https://www.draftsite.com/mydraftsit...ck-draft/2019/

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018/...-detroit-lions

http://walterfootball.com/draft2019OG.php

I just see his name everywhere. Remember this kid had a very scary injury that could give him second thought on passing up shot at nfl this year. Hopefully me and all the draft sites are wrong

Because the crutch that held up the offense just graduated or declared for the NFL draft. We lose our best interior offensive linemen and our tackles are still going to be a liability. So we’ve got that going for us.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Look at the schedule. Auburn and Texas a&m on road. That's tougher. Bama and LSU home brutal. Our defense is going to take a big drop. Anyone who thinks otherwise is well, an eternal optimist. If we win 6 and go to a bowl I'd take it today.

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I saw oue second team defense stop Iowa Sunday in person. They could not run on them either. There is a reason why the starters are the starters but the second team will be better next season they will be bigger, stronger and more experience. We will win 8 ball games.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Just went through the schedule. Louisiana Lafayette and Abilene Christian are wins.

Southern Miss and Kansas State are both at home.

OM and Kentucky both at home.

Tennessee and Arkansas on the road. Arkansas worse than us for sure no matter who is at QB and Tennessee might be the toughest game out of all of those and they missed a bowl game this year.

At no point ever should we go less than 7-5. Even if we mess up, Auburn at home is going to give us a fairly decent chance to win because they don't have a QB.

Next years schedule all things considered is extremely favorable for an odd year. Plus the Tennessee game is after a bye week for us. They play Georgia the week before.

If we go 6-6 bye bye Joe. But I don't see why 8-4 isn't even a possibility being mentioned by some. Offense can't get worse so it has to get better. Defense will still be Top 30. Still very solid.

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Our offense absolutely could be worse next year if Key is bad, Shrader isn't ready, and/or we don't get a grad transfer that works out. At this point those three things are distinctly possible. QB is going to determine a lot about how we do next year. Which is why I am holding off on any predictions. And with our typical luck usually the worst case scenario plays out for us it seems like. I do like the schedule overall though.

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Morgan Freeman looks really comfortable there.**

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Originally Posted by msstate7

http://www.drafttek.com/m/positional...-NFL-Draft.asp

https://www.draftsite.com/mydraftsit...ck-draft/2019/

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018/...-detroit-lions

http://walterfootball.com/draft2019OG.php

I just see his name everywhere. Remember this kid had a very scary injury that could give him second thought on passing up shot at nfl this year. Hopefully me and all the draft sites are wrong

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And he also looked pretty bad in the Outback Bowl yesterday. I'll trust Ari and IYOK over those people when it comes to MSU's program specifically. Not to mention it seems like the coaches are expecting him to play center next year- which they wouldn't do if they expected him to leave.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Because the crutch that held up the offense just graduated or declared for the NFL draft. We lose our best interior offensive linemen and our tackles are still going to be a liability. So we’ve got that going for us.

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Who? Nick? I'd argue that he was more of a liability than a crutch. Or at least as much of a liability as he was a crutch. I think our o-line will be re-worked where Reese moves inside to guard and Williams to center with Eiland at LT. Then we start Champion or Phillips at the other two spots with Phillips at RT. Both played a good bit and will be seniors and IMO Phillips was better at RT than Reese was. Eiland should be better as he will be a junior and the entire starting unit will be juniors or seniors with a lot of experience.

And we'll see what Dolla Bill and maybe even Cross if he is ready and can add some muscle can do when they get here.

I swear we have the most schizophrenic fan base on the planet.

3 years bitching about how horrible Fitz is, then spending all this season calling for his replacement and playing KT, but now our offense will be worse with a QB many claim is better, throws a better ball and is faster.