Super Interesting Twitter Thread On Our Offense

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11-14-2018, 03:00 PM
ShotgunDawg

Super Interesting Twitter Thread On Our Offense

Lots of food for thought here: our offensive numbers are very odd

It's also why I have hope in Moorhead. Something doesn't add up.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ralphdrussoap/status/1062780314366418945?s=21[/Tweet]

[Tweet]https://twitter.com/starrettjason/status/1062789244761051141?s=21[/tweet]
11-14-2018, 03:04 PM
tcdog70

it aint rocket surgery--when you play top defenses in SEC your offense isn't the same as vs Little Sister's of the Poor.
11-14-2018, 03:04 PM
drunkernhelldawg

The world is baffled.

I can't help feeling that we could have earned a few W's from those four losses. Yet I am optimistic since the team has many positive aspects as well as some excellent performances.

Intensity should not vary to this extent. I'm worried about the old trap game this Saturday.
11-14-2018, 03:09 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

it aint rocket surgery--when you play top defenses in SEC your offense isn't the same as vs Little Sister's of the Poor.

That obvious, but we play the same schedule most every year and this year's numbers are unprecedented

It doesn't add up.
11-14-2018, 03:10 PM
msudawglb

I think this offense is all about the passing game and thus we thrive against average to bad secondaries (no matter how good our QB is scanning the field). We have lost to 3 teams that have good to excellent secondaries (Alabama, LSU, and KY) and 1 to a team that we just missed opportunities to win (FL). Fitz has shown no ability to survey the entire field. Many times he locks in on one side of the field and will have open WR's on the other side. With this offense and Fitz at QB, if you can load the box and play man coverage with your secondary (because they are good to excellent), then you could shut us down this year.

I also want to say that all of our passing struggles are not just Fitz. Our WR's were running bad routes as well. For Moorhead's offense to thrive, we've got to have smarter QB's and WR's.

To add, I look for MSU to score 40+ in both of our last 2 games.
11-14-2018, 03:12 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by msudawglb

I think this offense is all about the passing game and thus we thrive against average to bad secondaries (no matter how good our QB is scanning the field). We have lost to 3 teams that have good to excellent secondaries (Alabama, LSU, and KY) and 1 to a team that we just missed opportunities to win (FL). Fitz has shown no ability to survey the entire field. Many times he locks in on one side of the field and will have open WR's on the other side. With this offense and Fitz at QB, if you can load the box and play man coverage with your secondary (because they are good to excellent), then you could shut us down this year.

I also want to say that all of our passing struggles are not just Fitz. Our WR's were running bad routes as well. For Moorhead's offense to thrive, we've got to have smarter QB's and WR's.

Against auburn we were 9/17 for 69 yds passing. Auburn is the only game we stuck with using our RBs
11-14-2018, 03:15 PM
msudawglb

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Against auburn we were 9/17 for 69 yds passing. Auburn is the only game we stuck with using our RBs

Well, that's a fairly high percentage (53%)....and we rushed for 350 yards. We didn't have to throw it.
11-14-2018, 03:18 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by msudawglb

Well, that's a fairly high percentage (53%)....and we rushed for 350 yards. We didn't have to throw it.

350 rushing yards is great. Wish we had stuck with using our RBs. Kylin had 23 carries vs auburn for 126 yards (5.48 per). Since then in 3 games, he has 20 carries for 109 yds (5.45 per). It worked vs a good sec defense, but we scrapped it... guess that's on fitz
11-14-2018, 03:29 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by msstate7

350 rushing yards is great. Wish we had stuck with using our RBs. Kylin had 23 carries vs auburn for 126 yards (5.48 per). Since then in 3 games, he has 20 carries for 109 yds (5.45 per). It worked vs a good sec defense, but we scrapped it... guess that's on fitz

I personally think LSU made Joe scrap that offensive approach. We ran 60% of the time against but LSU finally forced us to attempt to pass and Fitz was horrific. We then decided to go back to his original offense and beat A&M and La Tech. Those games are the best the offense has looked and it looked like Fitz was finally understanding the offense.

Then Bama. I think all the media picking LSU to upset them just lit a damn fuse. Bama seemed to take it personal and I will be surprised if their defense isn't wrecking everyone the rest of the season.
11-14-2018, 03:29 PM
msudawglb

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Originally Posted by msstate7

350 rushing yards is great. Wish we had stuck with using our RBs. Kylin had 23 carries vs auburn for 126 yards (5.48 per). Since then in 3 games, he has 20 carries for 109 yds (5.45 per). It worked vs a good sec defense, but we scrapped it... guess that's on fitz

Come on man, you are better than that post. Surely you remember that after the Auburn game, was the LSU game. Hill had some early success running the ball and then he got injured. He didn't play the rest of that game and he didn't play at all the next game. And we worked him back into the LaTech game that we won easily but we didn't overwork him since he was coming back off the injury.
11-14-2018, 03:43 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

I personally think LSU made Joe scrap that offensive approach. We ran 60% of the time against but LSU finally forced us to attempt to pass and Fitz was horrific. We then decided to go back to his original offense and beat A&M and La Tech. Those games are the best the offense has looked and it looked like Fitz was finally understanding the offense.

Then Bama. I think all the media picking LSU to upset them just lit a damn fuse. Bama seemed to take it personal and I will be surprised if their defense isn't wrecking everyone the rest of the season.

Against LSU, our RBs got 14 carries for 70 yards (5.0 per). We didn't once run the rb motion that we ran so successfully vs auburn
11-14-2018, 03:50 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Against LSU, our RBs got 14 carries for 70 yards (5.0 per). We didn't once run the rb motion that we ran so successfully vs auburn

This is the biggest thing that wants me to pull my hair out. It might be up there with Holloway up the middle. If anyone has an answer for either I would be ecstatic to hear it.
11-14-2018, 03:57 PM
fader2103

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

it aint rocket surgery--when you play top defenses in SEC your offense isn't the same as vs Little Sister's of the Poor.

How does the rest of the league look at average yards per drop on games lost?
11-14-2018, 04:05 PM
gravedigger

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Against LSU, our RBs got 14 carries for 70 yards (5.0 per). We didn't once run the rb motion that we ran so successfully vs auburn

I seem to remember we did, but Fitz pulled the ball and ran into the line numerous times. I could be wrong about that, but as he got more frustrated, he kept trying to take the game over himself.
11-14-2018, 04:11 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by gravedigger

I seem to remember we did, but Fitz pulled the ball and ran into the line numerous times. I could be wrong about that, but as he got more frustrated, he kept trying to take the game over himself.

We ran designed rb runs vs auburn. Why did we ditch those?
11-14-2018, 04:15 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by gravedigger

I seem to remember we did, but Fitz pulled the ball and ran into the line numerous times. I could be wrong about that, but as he got more frustrated, he kept trying to take the game over himself.

Moorhead said post game there were plays where Nick should have handed off but kept it. That's on Nick.
11-14-2018, 04:15 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We ran designed rb runs vs auburn. Why did we ditch those?

Those are also head scratchers. We might have to get used to Moorhead's version of up the gut with a 150 lb RB. I really hope there is a reason. I wish someone in the media would ask him and he actually answer. I can't remember if Mullen ever answered the Holloway question.
11-14-2018, 04:23 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by fader2103

How does the rest of the league look at average yards per drop on games lost?

Nobody else is below 4 yards. First time since So Car 2012 that a team is below 4 yards in losses
11-14-2018, 04:25 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Nobody else is below 4 yards. First time since So Car 2012 that a team is below 4 yards in losses

So does this just mean our WRs aren't being very helpful?
11-14-2018, 04:29 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

So does this just mean our WRs aren't being very helpful?

This is total offense numbers for losses. Passing is 4.2 yards per attempt and rushing is 3.19 per attempt. We are 1st in the league in rushing this year in wins, 11th in losses. Last year we were still 2nd in the league in rushing yards per attempt in our losses.

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