The Regression Of Fitz Is an Enormous Indictment On This Staff

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10-20-2018, 08:32 PM
ShotgunDawg

The Regression Of Fitz Is an Enormous Indictment On This Staff

We used to have a QB that wasn't so good at passing but now we have a running back that is void of confidence or accuracy in passing game.

THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE INDICTMENT ON THIS STAFF

Go back and watch the video from last year. Fitz has regressed and there is no doubt about it and add in KT not being ready and it's a further indictment of terrible coaching.

That is a real issue going forward. If these guys can't develop QBs, then we are 17ed or have to start the grad transfer cycle.

It's an absolute travesty what has happened to Fitz.

I guess you get what you pay for. Heard from a person in the know that Cohen got sticker shock with Schlossnagle as well.
10-20-2018, 08:39 PM
BeardoMSU

It's not a regression as much as it is we're not putting him in a position to succeed....but yeah, the same result ensues....
10-20-2018, 08:41 PM
msstate7

Remember when you guys thought Moorhead was a better hire than jimbo?
10-20-2018, 08:42 PM
ShotgunDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

It's not a regression as much as it is we're not putting him in a position to succeed....but yeah, the same result ensues....

He's regresses. Looks hesitant when throwing. No throws have conviction.

It's an absolute regression.
10-20-2018, 08:44 PM
Matt3467

I'm sure that injury and missing a lot of practice and a game doesn't factor into his "regression."
10-20-2018, 08:44 PM
ShotgunDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

Remember when you guys thought Moorhead was a better hire than jimbo?

Yup. It's hard believe a guy progresses this far with so little player development ability.

People will complain about the play calling, but he's just calling what we can execute. Therefore, the bigger issue is: why can we execute so little? Why haven't the QBs improved and instead regressed?

It's a player development problem for me.
10-20-2018, 08:45 PM
Backspin

Fitz has NEVER been a passer...not even under Mullen...he can’t read a defense. Fitz can only see his primary receiver. Mullen couldn’t recruit passingQBs nor receivers. All this while watching a Mississippi boy pick apart Oregon.
10-20-2018, 08:45 PM
DogsofAnarchy

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

We used to have a QB that wasn't so good at passing but now we have a running back that is void of confidence or accuracy in passing game.

THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE INDICTMENT ON THIS STAFF

Go back and watch the video from last year. Fitz has regressed and there is no doubt about it and add in KT not being ready and it's a further indictment of terrible coaching.

That is a real issue going forward. If these guys can't develop QBs, then we are 17ed or have to start the grad transfer cycle.

It's an absolute travesty what has happened to Fitz.

I guess you get what you pay for. Heard from a person in the know that Cohen got sticker shock with Schlossnagle as well.

1. Mullen NEVER had an offense that was this one dimensional.
2. Last time we were this inept was Croom years.
3. Coaching matters. We are coached very poorly.
4. I don?t know how to fix it.
10-20-2018, 08:45 PM
Thick

I could not DISAGREE with you more. First of all, he’s not a real QB. He has never been a good passer. He missed the entire spring to learn the new offense. The problem is really, Fitz is not the QB for this offense bc he’s ONE DIMENSIONAL. To lay this at the staff’s feet is complete bullshit. You can absolutely say that the playcalling is suspect at times, but Fitz is just not a good fit for this offense. Shotgun, you cannot improve a poor passer in fall practice alone, much less over the spring. Kylin Hill not getting touches is all Moorhead, and that I can agree with, but Fitz being a “solid” passer bc of a coaching change was never in the cards.
10-20-2018, 08:46 PM
BeardoMSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

He's regresses. Looks hesitant when throwing. No throws have conviction.

It's an absolute regression.

He looks to be about the same QB as he did against Auburn and Georgia last year.....
10-20-2018, 08:47 PM
msstate7

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogsofAnarchy

1. Mullen NEVER had an offense that was this one dimensional.
2. Last time we were this inept was Croom years.
3. Coaching matters. We are coached very poorly.
4. I don?t know how to fix it.

You know how to fix it
10-20-2018, 08:47 PM
UMCDawg16

Disagree. Fitz’s play this season is an indictment on himself. Fitz has always been a running back in the QB position. He had years to learn Mullen’s offense and Mullen did a great job of knowing his limitations and playcalling to suit him. Moorhead hasnt had the 2-3 years of getting to know Fitz’s game that Mullen had. Fitz has always been very immature, not a good leader and frankly, lazy in preparation. He hasn’t learned this offense and his lack of accuracy and decision making is showing through. You don’t unlearn how to coach football. Moorhead has been great everywhere he’s been. Fitz is just a terrible college QB.
10-20-2018, 08:48 PM
BeardoMSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thick

I could not DISAGREE with you more. First of all, he’s not a real QB. He has never been a good passer. He missed the entire spring to learn the new offense. The problem is really, Fitz is not the QB for this offense bc he’s ONE DIMENSIONAL. To lay this at the staff’s feet is complete bullshit. You can absolutely say that the playcalling is suspect at times, but Fitz is just not a good fit for this offense. Shotgun, you cannot improve a poor passer in fall practice alone, much less over the spring. Kylin Hill not getting touches is all Moorhead, and that I can agree with, but Fitz being a “solid” passer bc of a coaching change was never in the cards.

This^. Fitz is what he is. Yes we can quibble about who, Dan or Joe, would put Fitz in a better position to succeed, but to say he's regressed or somehow missed out on his potential, just isn't fair.
10-20-2018, 08:48 PM
msstate7

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

He looks to be about the same QB as he did against Auburn and Georgia last year.....

Is he the same qb as vs LSU and Kentucky last season?
10-20-2018, 08:48 PM
UMCDawg16

WELL SAID
10-20-2018, 08:48 PM
ShotgunDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backspin

Fitz has NEVER been a passer...not even under Mullen...he can’t read a defense. Fitz can only see his primary receiver. Mullen couldn’t recruit passingQBs nor receivers. All this while watching a Mississippi boy pick apart Oregon.

True but Fitz was a better passer under Mullen.
10-20-2018, 08:49 PM
UMCDawg16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thick

I could not DISAGREE with you more. First of all, he’s not a real QB. He has never been a good passer. He missed the entire spring to learn the new offense. The problem is really, Fitz is not the QB for this offense bc he’s ONE DIMENSIONAL. To lay this at the staff’s feet is complete bullshit. You can absolutely say that the playcalling is suspect at times, but Fitz is just not a good fit for this offense. Shotgun, you cannot improve a poor passer in fall practice alone, much less over the spring. Kylin Hill not getting touches is all Moorhead, and that I can agree with, but Fitz being a “solid” passer bc of a coaching change was never in the cards.

Well said. I couldn’t agree with you more.
10-20-2018, 08:49 PM
Goldendawg

Bet Jo says all all the right things post-game. Some people can "talk the talk".............
10-20-2018, 08:50 PM
msstate7

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

True but Fitz was a better passer under Mullen.

Fitz was top 4 in qbr in sec every year under Mullen. Fitz is 11th this season, and will drop after tonight. Fitz has absolutely regressed under this staff
10-20-2018, 08:52 PM
Sacrifice

This looks like a city league offense. I didn't expect Fitz to light it up threw the air but I did expect him to be better throwing it than last year.

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