http://gridironnow.com/cole-smith-ls...issippi-state/
Pretty sobering.
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http://gridironnow.com/cole-smith-ls...issippi-state/
Pretty sobering.
Wasn't the gun stealing hat hurler a DL?
Isn't jake the guy that broke down our film every week to find a missed assignment then explain it like John madden only to find out later he had no idea of our assignments?
Suck it hevesy, you deserve the boos. Mullen, wtf?
Ole Miss recruited him as an o-lineman. He was an OL/DL prospect as a recruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenureplan
Aren't you the guy that defends Hevesy every thread despite mounting evidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We were taking him as a DT. So that's not an OL miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenureplan
This "mounting evidence" is the same thing that's been said here every day for like 5 years. Just bc State Farm Jake said it doesn't give it more credence. Hev needs to recruit better... who has said he doesn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Of course it is... Gdammit we get it, our OL sucks, our OL recruiting sucks, our OL coordinator sucks... give it a 17'n rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
The misses we actually signed on that list is depressing. And why people are irate for not offering a legacy that LSU wants
It's just laziness. Plain and simple.
maybe we should start cheating in recruiting.
I dont buy the whole staff recruiting thing. At the end of the day the athlete is going to choose the position coach he likes most. What OL is going to come to Mississippi State because he loved the WR coach? That argument is stupid. Once our staff has identified these kids and get them on campus its up to Hevesy to close and close he does not do.
Cheat? How about just not be lazy and rude and try to recruit that way first?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Overall, it's an obvious, lazy article that any message board member could write over half a lunch break. But this is what you get from today's "journalists". There's better posts on this board by people who have day jobs. Would've been a better article had the author factored in Juco OL from MS who went to other places like Gennessy who started at OT for TXAM. That & showed kids who actually went to a MS high school and ended up in the NFL via college other than SEC ~ that would be a great article and more telling of the actual talent in MS and kind of what you would expect from someone who makes a living doing this.
so Wommack & Lashley could be our starting tackles right now? I wonder where they rank on Bama's depth chart. Those two really hurt. Time will tell.
hindsight, I'd say top 3 OL on that list are: Gabe Jackson ~ 4 year starter, Steen ~ multiple year starter, I guess Shon Coleman b/c he made it to the NFL, I guess but so did Clausell, but he never stuck. Some of those recent guys are still in college though. Am I reading this correctly in that the only guy on that entire list that has made a living playing is Gabe?
Is Coleman the only guy we didn't sign who made it to the NFL? did Steen?
But yeah, 2011 was pretty bad and overall no star players. I wonder how much OM paid Morris & Bell as those two would've made a difference and probably wanted to go to MSU. Who of those OM signees would've have a better career had they not taken OM's $? Taylor & Patterson are short...Morris, maybe?
Our 2016 class needs more production than the 2011 class. Would really buck the %s if at least 2 of those 3 actually had good careers and started a few years.
At a minimum, I think the OL big board needs to have two requirements. 1. sign at least 5 OL every year b/c odds are at least 2 will start during their careers & 2. sign exclusively from LA, MS, AL.
I know you're joking, but that would completely turn me off & probably many of the MSU grads. Say what you want, but Mullen's character revealed more to me about he handled the Scam situation that anything else. A once in a lifetime player he let walk b/c he was unwilling to cheat to get him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
But yeah, Mullen just needs to hire a better OL recruiter. Hev is an old grump and probably good at coaching them, but sub par recruiter.
Has Looney recruited good OL during his college career at other places?
Jake is a good guy, calls games for us at Brandon. He knows his stuff. To be fair, no fan knows exactly what our assignments are on every single play. Jake was just pointing out garbage effort which is something that everybody should do.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Our OL recruiting has gotten better since 2014 but its still the main thing holding us back from going to ATL. We may not do it even with an elite OL. Its hard to do with Saban down the road. I think this years OL has the POTENTIAL to be one of our better groups but we shall see
Hard to argue facts. This is the reason it's hard to get totally excited about football. Everyone in the known universe admits it's a problem yet we do nothing.
Wish I was good enough to post that pic of hevesy with a caption of "wanna be my friend?"