OL draft picks since 2012 out of the SEC

Alabama- 7 - cream of the SEC
Texas A&M- 5- one of the SEC's best offenses every season
Florida- 5- 2 SEC East titles
South Carolina- 5- won 11 games 3 straight seasons
Georgia- 4- won East twice and contends
Missouri- 4- won East twice
LSU- 3- won in spite of Miles
Auburn- 3- won SEC title and played for NC, also played in Sugar...but SEC's most psycho team

clear divide in results in the SEC

Tenn- 3
Ole Miss- 3
UPig- 2
State- 1 (Croom recruit)
Vandy- 1 (and supposed to have another this April)
Kentucky- 1

UPig and Vandy have draft picks this April...State and Kentucky hoping to add to their 1 this April- State is holding out hope Justin Senior gets drafted in the late rounds.

The more successful teams in the SEC coincidentally have the most OL guys drafted. Sure there are other factors- but the SEC is a LOS league. You have got to have OL talent to match the amazing amount of DL talent.

Factual. I cannot get past the mental block Mullen has regarding this. Furthermore, he runs a run-based spread that does not effectively mitigate a bad offensive line. It's lunacy. But at least we beat Ole Miss.

Clearly we've been the worst sec program since '12. Great point

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Clearly we've been the worst sec program since '12. Great point

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SEC West during that time:

0-6 vs Bama
1-5 vs LSU
2-3 vs A&M
3-3 vs Auburn
3-3 vs OM
4-2 vs UPig

13-22 vs SEC West

We are talking macro level here. Keep resting on your micro exceptions and stay blind. BAHHHH

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SEC West during that time:

0-6 vs Bama
1-5 vs LSU
2-3 vs A&M
3-3 vs Auburn
3-3 vs OM
4-2 vs UPig

13-22 vs SEC West

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So is it your position that we're just a different oline coach away from winning the west?

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So is it your position that we're just a different oline coach away from winning the west?

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We are 1 or 2 decent offensive line talents away. Hevesy is not a bad coach, but for whatever reason we cannot sign the talent. Blame who you will. I blame Mullen.

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We are 1 or 2 decent offensive line talents away. Hevesy is not a bad coach, but for whatever reason we cannot sign the talent. Blame who you will. I blame Mullen.

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Take any position group you want and compare NFL draft picks with lsu and bama

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So is it your position that we're just a different oline coach away from winning the west?

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We are better OL recruiting away from at least being able to contend for the West. We have lost at least 4 SEC games in 7 of Mullen's 8 seasons. That gives you no shot to even contend.

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Take any position group you want and compare NFL draft picks with lsu and bama

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why just LSU and Bama? Why cant we include the entire West?

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Take any position group you want and compare NFL draft picks with lsu and bama

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See sheep picture. Keep eyeballing those singular data points and ignoring the trends. I cannot help you.

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why just LSU and Bama? Why cant we include the entire West?

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1-11 vs them. We compete well with the others. If we compare well in other position groups, it brings credit to your claim it's just oline

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1-11 vs them. If we compare well in other position groups, it brings credit to your claim it's just oline

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SEC West draft picks in the same time frame:

Bama- 39
LSU- 32
UPig- 22
Texas A&M- 17
State- 15
Auburn- 14
Ole Miss- 8

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SEC West draft picks in the same time frame:

Bama- 39
LSU- 32
UPig- 22
Texas A&M- 17
State- 15
Auburn- 14
Ole Miss- 8

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Subtract olinemen and it's...
Bama - 32
Lsu - 29
State - 15

The gap will widen significantly this year

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Subtract olinemen and it's...
Bama - 32
Lsu - 29
State - 15

The gap will widen significantly this year

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A) whose fault is that?
B) again- why not include the rest of the West?

We are a SEC West worst 1-11 against Bama and LSU precisely because of our OFFENSIVE LINE talent. It gives us no chance to win.

People keep trying to say we can beat LSU- but we have 99 yards rushing vs them the last 2 years combined. We arent going to beat them doing that.

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A) whose fault is that?
B) again- why not include the rest of the West?

We are a SEC West worst 1-11 against Bama and LSU precisely because of our OFFENSIVE LINE talent. It gives us no chance to win.

People keep trying to say we can beat LSU- but we barely have over 100 yards rushing vs them the last 2 years combined. We arent going to beat them doing that.

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Take out bama and lsu and our record is 12-11 during your time frame. We're competing against the rest of the west. The gap between us and bama and lsu is clearly more than just olinemen... after this draft, both will have more than double our draft picks not including olinemen

I've always been unsure about if we recruit by region or if we recruit by position coach. Obviously a position coach plays a big role either way, but can anyone clarify that?

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Take out bama and lsu and our record is 12-11 during your time frame. We're competing against the rest of the west. The gap between us and bama and lsu is clearly more than just olinemen... after this draft, both will have more than double our draft picks not including olinemen

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I want to win championships. Thus we have to compete again Alabama and LSU too. We can do it with improved offensive line recruiting, to go along with great quarterback play. See Clemson's blueprint.

We have to get better or we stay where we are. Depends on where you want to go I guess.

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I want to win championships. Thus we have to compete again Alabama and LSU too. We can do it with improved offensive line recruiting, to go along with great quarterback play. See Clemson's blueprint.

We have to get better or we stay where we are. Depends on where you want to go I guess.

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I want to win the sec and national championships, but I'm also realistic.

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The gap between us and bama and lsu is clearly more than just olinemen...

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A&M, OM, and Auburn have beaten Bama in that timeframe. UPig lost by one point in '15 and hung 30 on Bama last year. We have only been competitive once and avg 9 PPG vs Bama under Mullen- its our OL that gives us literally no chance of beating them.

Its all about our OL and the lack of talent. We compete with the rest of the SEC because they dont overwhelm our OL the way Bama and LSU do. And when they do like OM in 15 and Auburn in 16- they beat our ass then too. I cant explain it any simpler