This is a complete joke. He might have had some issues, but the numbers don't lie. When it was time to play he played and he played hard. The voting system is completely flawed.
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This is a complete joke. He might have had some issues, but the numbers don't lie. When it was time to play he played and he played hard. The voting system is completely flawed.
Dont be a ********** if you want to be in the HOF
GoodQuote:
Originally Posted by Prentis
Don't be a top 3 of all time receiver. The voters done the same thing to Charles Haley. Complete bullshit.
This! There is more that goes into being a hof er that simply on the fieldQuote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Oh really, tell that to Brett Farve, Lawernce Taylor and plenty others that are currently in the Hall of Fame. How many off of the field issues did T.O have? This is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
TO's problem is his teammates didnt like him. When your teammates hate you- you will always have trouble with recognition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prentis
LT was a dominant player on the field and his teammates loved him. Nobody cares that he was a violent cokehead off the field. He played defense- of course he is an animal that has trouble in society at times.
It's bullshit. Sorry. His numbers are better than receivers already in. This shouldnt be a popularity contest.
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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
He'll get in- he just doesnt deserve to be a 1st ballot guy. His bullshit with his teammates makes him have to wait a couple of extra years
Being an asshole certainly didn't keep Jerry Jones out. Selective assholery is allowed I guess.
Took Jerry Jones 28 years, 3 SB wins, and some marketing innovation to get in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
No way I want that POS in the HOF. It wasn't just that he was an asshole...he was an absolute cancer to the teams he played for. I don't give a shit what his stats were, his negatives outweighed his positives.
Stats are only useful if they actually help your team be a better team than they would be without you. TO decimated teams he joined.
So do Brady and Belichek get in? How bout Big Ben? How bout Ray Lewis? We have criminals, cheats, and a**holes. Who decides which is worse?
As stated before this ain't the Miss America pageant. Great football players should be in the HOF or it's just a popularity contest.
It's not, "just a popularity contest" unless they let players in solely because they were popular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
Absolutely correct!!Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
every guy you mentioned is loved by their teammatesQuote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
I've never "liked" TO, but think he should have got in this year, his 2nd year eligible.
It has less to do with locker room issues than always being at odds with the writers who coincidentally vote on the HOF.
As Shannon Sharpe said the off the fields issues are not in the bylaws.
HOF MISSION
• Honor the Heroes of the Game
• Preserve its History
• Promote its Values
• Celebrate Excellence EVERYWHERE
HOF VALUES:
Commitment
Integrity
Courage
Respect
Excellence
I believe there are reasons enough to state TO did not meet the core values of the HOF. He was an extremely talented and productive WR, but his impact on the teams he played for included the way he'd inevitably tear a locker room apart. Integrity? Respect? I don't think so. Even his commitment seemed more about a commitment to himself over team, no matter the cost.