Im beginning to think Mississippiwill get the Death Penalty

too much exemplary cooperation, law suit threats, and cheating while the sheriffs in town leads me to believe Mojolner is about to strike Lafayette county

I just can't see it happening without serious probation in place prior to this current investigation starting. But, I do suspect that NCAA, knowing that the death penalty is the only thing that has a chance of shutting their cheating operation down once and for all, could be setting them up for the death penalty several years down the road with whatever they hand down this year. That would give them access to the textbook "repeat offender" judgement necessary for death penalty as the rules are currently written.

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Originally Posted by Indndawg

too much exemplary cooperation, law suit threats, and cheating while the sheriffs in town leads me to believe Mojolner is about to strike Lafayette county

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They're certainly taking their time, so you could be right. I suppose it could be as it looks ... that every time they start to wind it up, something else surfaces.

I've been saying that for over a year. And PLEASE stop with the "no longer on the table" argument because the NCAA never took it off the table.

OM is daring the NCAA to throw the book at them and I believe that the NCAA will oblige. Why? Because OM's case is basically USC and UNC combined. 90% of what is discussed on ED is the financial inducements but the most damning part of OM's transgressions is the academic fraud which we already know that the NCAA knows about through David Saunders.

Contrary to what the nitwits up north believe the NCAA doesn't have to WANT to hammer OM. OM has put themselves in a position that the NCAA will HAVE TO hammer them or all of collegiate sports will turn into the wild Wild West as Saban put it.

I've been telling y'all since day one that they are getting kicked out of the SEC. I wish you would listen to me on this.

Lol, they will not get the death penalty or kicked out of the Sec.

As a matter of fact, it's doubtful they will get anything worse than what we (State) got under Sherrill

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Originally Posted by was21

As a matter of fact, it's doubtful they will get anything worse than what we (State) got under Sherrill

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Five years of Croom?

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I just can't see it happening without serious probation in place prior to this current investigation starting. But, I do suspect that NCAA, knowing that the death penalty is the only thing that has a chance of shutting their cheating operation down once and for all, could be setting them up for the death penalty several years down the road with whatever they hand down this year. That would give them access to the textbook "repeat offender" judgement necessary for death penalty as the rules are currently written.

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Exactly. That's why my question at this point is if an amended NOA is considered eligible for repeat offender status. My guess is they will get a second NOA and it won't be the 2013 class that gets them the death penalty but more likely the 2016 class because they kept the wholesale cheating going on while under investigation. I'm not 100% sure that they will get the death penalty. I don't think the NCAA likes to use it if they can avoid it and it's a last resort. Ultimately I think it comes down to whether or not their administration puts an end to the cheating or not. That and the fact that they are going to be under repeat offender status for awhile after everything comes down. So they are going to have to keep their nose clean for a few years after or risk the death penalty again.

You don't KNOW that! I am speculating. You are speculating. OM fans are speculating.

My speculations are based on the infractions we know they have been caught with. Yours seem to be based on the same pride that OM fans cling to that the NCAA doesn't have the balls to do what they ought to do.

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You don't KNOW that! I am speculating. You are speculating. OM fans are speculating.

My speculations are based on the infractions we know they have been caught with. Yours seem to be based on the same pride that OM fans cling to that the NCAA doesn't have the balls to do what they ought to do.

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What I do know is that the "death penalty" is really called the "repeat offender clause". It is only handed out to programs who continue to cheat and get caught while they are on probation.

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What I do know is that the "death penalty" is really called the "repeat offender clause". It is only handed out to programs who continue to cheat and get caught while they are on probation.

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If OM is not a repeat offender who is? With all of the smoke and mirrors their administration is doing who knows when their official probation started. What is clear is that they have a steady verifiable track record of cheating all the way back to Houston Nutt.

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As a matter of fact, it's doubtful they will get anything worse than what we (State) got under Sherrill

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If you are talking just the last probation under Sherill, they are trying to self impose more scholarship reductions than we actually got from the NCAA and have more than twice the number of violations and major infractions than we had. So it's not only likely but they have already tried to self impose part of the penalties more than we got.

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As a matter of fact, it's doubtful they will get anything worse than what we (State) got under Sherrill

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They'll get more than that....but definitely not the death penalty or kicked out of the SEC.

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As a matter of fact, it's doubtful they will get anything worse than what we (State) got under Sherrill

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No

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If OM is not a repeat offender who is? With all of the smoke and mirrors their administration is doing who knows when their official probation started. What is clear is that they have a steady verifiable track record of cheating all the way back to Houston Nutt.

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By the NCAA bylaws only violations that have occurred since the Oct, 2016 COI decision will fall under the repeat offender clause which can bring in the death penalty. Only major scandals, like the Penn St case, can trigger the COI to consider the death penalty without repeat offender status

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By the NCAA bylaws only violations that have occurred since the Oct, 2016 COI decision will fall under the repeat offender clause which can bring in the death penalty. Only major scandals, like the Penn St case, can trigger the COI to consider the death penalty without repeat offender status

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Yup. And An amended noa means that it's all still part of an on going investigation , not a new one. Repeat offender status would not come into play until AFTER sanctions have been handed down by the comm on infr

They will get hammered, and hard, but no death penalty. ATLEAST not now. If they get caught cheating after sanctions are handed down then there is a chance.

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Yup. And An amended noa means that it's all still part of an on going investigation , not a new one. Repeat offender status would not come into play until AFTER sanctions have been handed down by the comm on infr

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I agree mostly except the clock is already ticking since the WBB and Track was completed in Oct. Any violations occurring after that point, even if it's part of an amended NOA, will trigger the repeat offender clause.

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I agree mostly except the clock is already ticking since the WBB and Track was completed in Oct. Any violations occurring after that point, even if it's part of an amended NOA, will trigger the repeat offender clause.

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I see what your saying.